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    Kicked out by 5dimes...

    So, not exactly sure what is going on but I have been suspended/removed from 5dimes.

    I made a payout request yesterday and I was trying to make soccer wagers today and it said my account has been suspended. I try to talk to live help and they tell me it was done by Tony and he is not available. WTF this place is such a shit show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musca View Post
    I try to talk to live help and they tell me it was done by Tony and he is not available. WTF this place is such a shit
    show.
    If I were you I'd just take my money and get out (once Tony is involved just forget about moving forward in a positive manner), and if you've never spoke to Tony before you are in for a treat

    5dimes is fair and they will always pay you, but once Tony is up in your shit, forget about it.
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    Yeah..

    Kick- That is what it seems- The last time I spoke with him I was ready to break my computer. I just want my damn money. I feel like they are doing this to mess with my mojo. Fucking insane man.

    You guys have to understand I am not a big player. But when I see a weak line I will pounce. But my biggest wager this year has been less than a dime... I dont get it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Musca View Post
    Kick- That is what it seems- The last time I spoke with him I was ready to break my computer. I just want my damn money. I feel like they are doing this to mess with my mojo. Fucking insane man.

    You will get all money that is owed to you, as much of an asshole Tony is, 5dimes is fair and will always pay. If you have any problems I am sure Jack will help you out (sponsor).

    Of all the complaints about 5dimes I don't think I have ever read any post on here where they didn't pay up.

    And yes I dealt with Tony a long long long time ago and it still haunts me, I feel so bad for the staff at 5dimes that has this guy as their boss, that must suck.
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    5dimes doesn't care much for winners. They will pay, but show you the door or make your limits so ridiculously low that you'll end the relationship. They will pay, though. Never had a problem with them not paying.
    Tony acts like God, and, he is God at 5dimes. Once you have to deal with him, forget about it.
    He cut my live wagering limits BIG TIME, and when I asked him to reconsider, he basically said "No. If you lose $XX,XXX back to us, then we will reconsider your live-wagering limits."
    It's his business and he can do what he wants to protect it. I don't like it, but that's the reality.
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    Yeah..

    I have had the limits battle already... I had a decent women's week this past week but it was by no means a BIG week. But obviously something is up... They rejected my payout and I have been told all day that Tony was not in and they have no way of getting a hold of him... They dont know his schedule. So basically my money is just sitting there... I had to make a deposit into another book to play tonight.

    You know- I have just started playing again with real regularity. Normally I am a weekend player. I won a couple of dimes in football and I am up a bit more than that this week. My wife is fucking tripping though... They are going to keep your money etc etc... I told her baby just relax. I will make sure that we get our money... Just aggravating.

    I cannot wait until this shit becomes completely above board and puts pieces of shit like Tony out of business. Once they lose the US player its curtains.

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    Yup, looking forward to the day where they don't have us by the balls with our money. Right now, it's like the wild west.
    However, I'm not worried about you (or me) getting paid from 5dimes. They have never let me down in the past with payouts. I'm quite certain your money is safe. There's about 10 places where I have money spread out, and never have to worry about sweating a payout. 5dimes is one of them.
    My advice? Get your money and then leave.
    Keep me posted.

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    So

    I have attempted to get a hold of Tony for 2 days to no avail. I keep being told later today, tonight, tomorrow... etc. I have told them multiple times I have no desire to speak with Tony at this point. I just want my money. I am being told that nothing can be done until I speak to Tony. So, I started another account with another book. Have to admit I am not happy with the new book. It is a sponsor so I am not going to call them out. I am hoping to start a new account after the weekend with another book.

    At this point my wife is flipping out on me telling me that TOny has stolen my money etc- This delay in talking to me is just childish dumb shit. I dont understand the games. If you freeze/disable my account then just give me my money and lets be done. He pulled this shit, due to my doing dumb shit, a few weeks ago and I humbled myself in order to continue with 5d. I made a few dimes the past couple of weeks but I have not hit any of their "human error" lines... Not sure how much you guys watch their live lines but they put up bad lines EVERY NIGHT. I gave them my word that I would not hit anymore of them and so I did not. But you have to realize my largest NCAAB wager this year was less than a dime. Texas A&M vs KY and then Oregon -2 vs Arizona. I did do pretty well this past week betting womens basketball but nothing insane. I made a payout request on Monday and then my account was disabled on Tuesday. I mean really this stuff is such stupid drama. Its so pointless. I manage 35 people a day and anywhere from 3 to 10 projects the last thing I need is this stupid kid shit with my sportsbook.

    Hopefully, this Tony fellow can grace me with his time tomorrow so I can get resolution. I want the money- I worked hard for that money. That money is to buy my wife something nice. Everyone keeps telling me that I am going to get my money but this delay stuff and avoiding me makes me wonder... It is really tiresome.


    Take care guys- Just ranting a bit. I appreciate you listening

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musca View Post
    I have attempted to get a hold of Tony for 2 days to no avail. I keep being told later today, tonight, tomorrow... etc. I have told them multiple times I have no desire to speak with Tony at this point. I just want my money.

    I'd contact Jack, he has helped me (and others) with 5dimes in the past, perhaps he can add you to the list?



    And I'd be shocked if you didn't get your money, Tony is a prick, but he's not a thief.

    I understand that you are annoyed (as you should be) but I am sure you'll get your funds eventually.
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    Betting into bad lines is something Tony, more than anyone else, will not tolerate. He considers it stealing from him. It doesn't matter if it's 50 cents or $5k. To him, it's "blatant theft." He, more than anybody I know, will not tolerate what he deems "shot takers." (I'm not calling you a "shot taker", but he views many people as such)
    I went through the same thing with him many years ago, even though I didn't know I was betting into a bad line in the 2H an NFC playoff game. Who puts up a bad line on an NFL playoff game?
    If he's going to offer a hundred different betting options for a single event, than it is HIS group's responsibility to make sure their lines are correct. Hey Tony, if you don't want people betting into bad lines, then put up the right lines or don't offer a hundred different ways to bet on something. It's funny how this rarely seems to happen in Vegas. But Tony puts up bad lines, like you said, every night.
    It sounds to me that he is pissed at you. You might have bet Oregon before (or once) the Sean Miller decision came out. So what? So did I. Credit us that we beat the line move by 5 or so points.
    The other thing Tony hates is a player who "hits and runs"....meaning, you win on a questionable game and then request a withdrawal. Or, you just make constant withdrawals. To that I say "F-Him!"....before bitcoin, I was paying $80 per check he sent me. That is borderline criminal.
    Not defending him AT ALL. I have just been around long enough to know how he operates. I'm not saying he is right, but he is holds firm to his beliefs.
    I'm starting to wonder whether you will get paid or not. I don't mean to scare you, but after reading your last post, my mind has changed a bit. The reason I say this us because Tony (or the main lady who works for him) don't take this long to get back to people. Tony has a great record of paying his customers before closing their accounts.
    It seems like you already had issues with Tony/5dimes for betting into bad lines. I'm pretty sure he flagged your account, and then you did something else he didn't like. He's now extremely pissed.
    I don't agree with him, however, I don't know all the details. A fair resolution (IMO) would be to pay you whatever you have in your account balance, and then cease doing business with you. That would be the best for both sides.
    Keep us posted.
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    They kicked me out awhile back but I got all my money.

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    There is a difference in betting obvious bad lines and 5dimes just being incompetent and putting up shitting lines all the fucking time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trampled Underfoot View Post
    There is a difference in betting obvious bad lines and 5dimes just being incompetent and putting up shitting lines all the fucking time.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trampled Underfoot View Post
    There is a difference in betting obvious bad lines and 5dimes just being incompetent and putting up shitting lines all the fucking time.
    And Tony thinks he's the best at everything he does

    He isn't.
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    Do you mind sharing with us, Musca, how much he owes you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kickserv View Post
    And Tony thinks he's the best at everything he does

    He isn't.
    Exactly, kick. And he acts like he's doing US a favor by taking our action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 203Hoosier View Post
    Exactly, kick. And he acts like he's doing US a favor by taking our action.

    Yep, his ego is that big.

    I feel so bad for the staff that has to answer to him, imagine working for a guy like him. Never in my life have a dealt with a bigger prick on the phone then when I spoke with him. Thankfully I only had to speak with him twice and both calls were quick.

    Even when he knows he's dead wrong he'll never apologize, his ego won't allow it.
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    Tony knows that his customers really can't do anything legally to get the money they feel they are owed. So, he acts like he's God and does what he pleases.
    Like I said, it's still the wild west with offshores. When this becomes legal soon, these guys know their business are going to take a big hit....UNLESS they stop the shenanigans, offer us better reduced juice than legal books, and offer huge bonuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kickserv View Post
    Yep, his ego is that big.

    I feel so bad for the staff that has to answer to him, imagine working for a guy like him. Never in my life have a dealt with a bigger prick on the phone then when I spoke with him. Thankfully I only had to speak with him twice and both calls were quick.

    Even when he knows he's dead wrong he'll never apologize, his ego won't allow it.
    Phone? That must have been a while ago, because he doesn't get on the phone anymore. He only "live chats."
    Google "Tony 5dimes transcripts." Legendary. Keyboard Cowboy.
    I can only imagine what your phone converation was like!

    You are right, his staff must hate him and their jobs. There is NO DOUBT in my mind that he was bullied as a kid, and now he's taking it out on everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 203Hoosier View Post
    Phone? That must have been a while ago, because he doesn't get on the phone anymore.

    It was 7-8 years ago.
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    Money

    The amount is a few dimes.


    The part that pisses me off the most is that 5d is one of the better books around... in terms of lines offered, true odds etc-

    They are beyond remedial in customer service and every payout I have received from them has been slow.

    At this point just want the money so I can get my wife off my back... She is constantly in my ear now

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    Man, I wish I would have had the transcript sent to myself..

    This fucking POS is an ego maniac asshole. Accused me of hitting a human error again, which I did not, and then gets on his high horse... we go back and forth. Wow- I absolute want to fucking eat his soul right now. The biggest POS I have ever dealt with... This cocksucker manages a company? Are you serious?

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    The more I replay the conversation

    The more I realize he just wanted an excuse because of the run I am on... It is the only thing that makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musca View Post
    This fucking POS is an ego maniac asshole. Accused me of hitting a human error again, which I did not, and then gets on his high horse... we go back and forth. Wow- I absolute want to fucking eat his soul right now. The biggest POS I have ever dealt with... This cocksucker manages a company? Are you serious?
    See....I told you that you'd have fun.
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    You know the worst part Kick... I started with my hat in my hand... Was polite... it went south real quick. I asked why it went south and he said it was because I was a douche. He fucking said that to me... You know when kids hide behind a keyboard they will say anything to a man. It actually made my heartbeat a little faster which is funny because I deal with employees all day so I am used to dumb shit but this was next level. I wish he would have just said- MR. XXX we are booting you because you are hitting us too hard dont hide behind some bullshit. I know I have to let it go but wow this was really next level... With no recourse. Thats the thing in the end- No recourse-
    My last run in with him 2 weeks ago I was able to use it to fuel me and then I made a few dimes betting the womens games the last few days. I put in a payout request on Monday and then all of the sudden my account is suspended.


    I am going to get my money- But folks I would recommend real caution with dealing with this book- It is obvious there are REAL issues there. If you watch the live wagering lines you will see consistent bad lines consistent. If you bet them it then ends where they can cancel any wager they want citing human error. They have the most lines there is no doubt... but at the same time it is obvious they want the recreational player.
    IN the end
    A) 65% of my wagers were being delayed due to "Line being evaluated"
    B) During in game and live wagering they would log me out and force me to log in each time before making wagers and thus causing a delay.
    C) I have had my last 4 payout requests delayed by a week+ citing missing information or some other supposed missing detail- I have had this account for years- Nothing has changed since my last payout.
    D) Checks not being able to be cashed/deposited- Wells Fargo citing fraud risk
    E) Multiple wagers canceled due to human error without obvious human error- Hid behind the human error argument


    I loved the book- Most lines on the market. But make no mistake if you are too successful or if you saying cheeseburger when they tell you to say cheese then you will be suspended and ultimately booted.

    I can give more many more instances of issues that I had with 5dimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musca View Post
    You know the worst part Kick... I started with my hat in my hand... Was polite... it went south real quick. I asked why it went south and he said it was because I was a douche.
    Do a search on here and/or do a search on the Web, you'll find tons of examples of Tony in all his glory. And as stated I dealt with him a long time ago and he was a complete asshole back then and it sounds like he has not changed a bit.
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    I was crushing him on "Live Betting Extra".....so they first lowered my limits. Then a lot of times my screen would go blank and say "Session Expired" while I was still in the Live Betting Extra mode. Then he reduced my limits even more. Finally, he put me on a delay where it spins and counts backwards, sometimes from 10, sometimes from 5. Made me stop playing there.
    Tony brags about having the most betting options and the most betting events on the internet. But, when you consistently beat him on sports like women's NCAA basketball, European basketball, Little League, Nathan's Hot Dog Eating contest, etc., he will get very upset with you and collar you.

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    Musca, I told ya, deposit at TD Bank. I'm pretty sure TD Bank is Canadian (Toronto Dominion). They didn't bat an eyelash when I was depositing checks from 5dimes. And no fees.
    Also, Tony knows he puts up bad lines...I remember his rules even saying something like "At no time will it benefit a player to bet into a bad line." It's his way out.
    He really needs to stop putting up lines he deems as 'bad." It only creates tons of conflict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 203Hoosier View Post
    I'm pretty sure TD Bank is Canadian.

    Yes TD is Canadian (headquartered in Toronto, Ontario) I have had an account with them since 1982.

    In Canada is goes by the name TD Canada Trust, in USA it goes by the name TD Bank.

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    kick, it was great. Like I said, no problems with TD Bank and the checks coming from 5 dimes. They all came from banks in Canada..5dimes used a few banks...I think Bank of Canada and even TD Canada Trust.
    Now i use bitcoin. That $80 charge for a check was seriously eating into my hard-earned profits. And I think the minimum check account you can request is $1,000. It's HARD to win that way!

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