2005 Battle for the Ashes

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Well it's finally arrived, the 2005 Ashes series. The best in the world against the second best team. Atleast on paper it should be a cracking series. The one thing on every English cricket fans mind is can the Poms beat the Convicts. England last claimed victory for the Ashes back in 1986/7 and since then have won just one Test when an Ashes Series was still alive. That was back in June 1997 when they took the opening Test at Edgbaston. Wins at The Oval in 1993 and in 1997, Melbourne in 1998, Headingley in 2001 and Sydney in 2003 were all achieved once Australia had either won the series or couldn't be beaten in it.

England have made good strides at closing the gap between their old enermy and under the leadership of previous captain Nasser Hussain and now Michael Vaughan, England are finally beginning to get some strength in depth and produce young cricketers able to compete with the best. But let's not get to carried away as the difference between Australia and England in the World Rankings is 21 points. That's a large gap demonstrated by the fact that second place England and seventh placed New Zealand are separated by just 14 points.

The ECB love to make live easy for many touring parties here in England. Beginning a five Test series in the middle of the Britsh Summer on pitches that will be hard and flat will be familiar for the Australians. Now I know most other cricket nations would go out of their way to play any opponent when it is favourable for them. For whatever reason in this country, we are very good at doing our best to assist the opposition rather than make life as difficult as possible.

Australia continue to dominate the Cricket World, but as I have said, age is catching up with some outstanding players and their departure over the next few years will be very difficult to replace. So for the time being, Australia dominate, yet in two or three years time their domination will be their demise as they fail to introduce and blood young players. If they believed they were that dominant over the opposition, then why not introduce a young player or two during a series.

Australia are odds on favourites at 1/2 (-200) to win the series, whilst the English faithful can support the home team at 3/1 (+300) with a drawn series at 6/1 (+600). It's no surprise that Australia have dominated for so long when they are able to call on the services of Shane Warne who has 583 Test wickets and Glenn McGrath who has 499 against his name. Warne alone has more wickets than England's five main bowlers put together. Steve Harmison (121), Matthew Hoggard (157), Simon Jones (41), Andy Flintoff (119) and Ashley Giles (127). So already we are seeing the apparant scale of task facing England.

And I believe it's this bowwling pair of Warne and McGrath that hold the key to this series and they will need to be at the top of their form. Why just the two men? Well their is little in the reserve tank of the Baggy Greens. Brett Lee has played himself into the Test team and he no doubt has a very important role to play as he is the one Australian bowler who has pace. However, the Australians have shown that they like stability in their sides, hence why changes are only made when injuries occur and another reason why they don't introduce young talent. Brett Lee hasn't played Test cricket since Steve Waugh stepped down as captain, so clearly thats one positive England can take out in the mental stakes before battle commences.

England can play to their potential only if the players are able to be at the top of their game and avoid injuries to key men. England's chances depend on two factors. First up is will the England opening pair of Trescothick and Strauss perform against McGrath and Lee with the new ball. And second, the main factor will be how well Flintoff and Harmison bowl for England.

So who do I recommend. I can't entertain supporting Australia in the outright markets because at times already this summer they have looked out of sorts. Their fielding has been appauling at times and they are struggling to find a fourth bowler with any form. On a positive note, Australia's batting has an embarrassment of riches which can help them set and chase down totals. I also can't recommend England as they will probably need to win three test's to win the Ashes and let's not forget that they have won only one test match against Australia in 1997 when the Ashes have still been on the line.

What I do like however are some of the prop wagers on players performances and correct series scores. With a late start date of July 21 for a five test series will mean the final Test is to be played in mid-September. That increases the chances of rain and a frop off of in hours of both daylight and sunshine which leads me to believe that one test will finish as a draw.

The gap between these two sides has closed, Australia just starting a downturn after years of setting the standards to which England have finally responded. But I also believe it's not as much as most pundits are writing and talking about, so my head tells me the Aussies will edge a close series.


1 point Australia to win 2-1 @ 15/2

1 point Australia to win 3-1 @ 11/2

1 point Drawn series 2-2 @ 8/1
 

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The other main markets that grab my attention are the top batsman and bowler, either by team or for the series.

With the top batsman markets I recommend keeping any interests to a minimum as one big score (or more innings) can skew the outcome. The Series market was won by Mark Butcher in 2001, due to a career high 173 not out at Headingley and ten visits to the crease resulting in a total of 456 runs scored. The England players were at an advantage in this market as they had more visits to the crease than their Australian counterparts. The next best three that year were Mark Waugh with 430 runs (eight innings), Damien Martyn with 382 runs (seven innings) and Adam Gilchrist with 340 runs ( only five innings).

The Australian top four of Hayden, Langer, Ponting and Martyn head the market but while some then go with a variation of England's top three of Trescothick, Strauss and Vaughan, others offer Australia's Michael Clarke fifth in the betting. It is difficult to see how Clarke with 138 runs from his last eight Test innings and doubts over his batting ability in English conditions can be rated ahead of England's top order.

But the overall top series batsman is to hard to really form an opinion so I am recommending a top batman from either country to wager on in their respective country markets. Let's start with England. Marcus Trescothick and Andrew Strauss suffered poor ODI summers against the Aussies and I said earlier that these two will hold one of the key factors to how well England compete. Vaughan is never at his best in ODI's but remains a top Test batsman and will benefit batting at number three. Injuries aside he is the only member of England's top five guaranteed to keep his place throughout the summer. Pietersen has potential but will be a target for the Aussies because of his reputation. A little further down the list is Ian Bell who has the ability and temperment to perform is an enticing 6/1. He already averages 297 from just three Tests and will be an outstanding talent for England over the next half dozen years or more.

Moving over to the Baggy Greens and the 8/1 about Adam Gilchrist to be Top Australian Batsman immeadiatly jumps out at me. The Australian wicket keeper ran off with the crown in New Zealand back in the spring. This market will likely be very close because of the depth of Australia's batting. The general feeling is that Hayden, who had a modest 2001 Ashes tour, is past his peak. Langer and Martyn, two players with extensive experience of batting in English climatic conditions, alongwith Ponting are all capable of excelling. Despite this competition, the brilliant Gilchrist looks good value and let's hope England bowl well and he makes more than five appearences at the crease this time around. Gilchrist scores runs at an exceptional rate but is nevertheless capable of compiling huge scores and the price of 8/1 looks weighted too heavily towards batting order rather than ability. An unbeaten 100 in the final NatWest Challenge game would suggest he is finding form at the right time.


1 point Michael Vaughan to be Top England Batsman @ 3/1

1 point Ian Bell to be Top England Batsman @ 6/1

0.5 points Adam Gilchrist to be Top Australia Batsman @ 8/1


Moving on to the bowlers and Australia boast two all-time great exponents of wicket-taking and both thrive in English conditions.

Shane Warne heads the Top Australia Bowler betting at 13/8 and is favourite to be Top Series Bowler, but my choice for the winner of this market is Glen McGrath who won this market in both 1997 and 2001. Despite the undeniable brilliance of Warne and his huge impact on cricket's oldest contest, his only Ashes series as top wicket-taker was back in 1993. McGrath has taken the honour on his two previous Ashes tours while twice narrowly missing out at home. Both legends were absent for Tests in 2002/3 allowing Jason Gillespie to scoop the prize. Gillespie has never played county cricket in England and has been struggling badly on this tour, while there are other doubts over rivals Michael Kasprowicz and Brett Lee. Kasprowicz has been the third seamer in the Australian side under the captaincy of Ponting but he has been in poor form in warm-up matches. Brett Lee is an outstanding bowler in the one day version of the game and he has done enough already on this tour to get his chance to fulfil his potential in the Test arena and to atone for a woeful 2001 Ashes.

Glen McGrath begins the series on 499 wickets and should pass Courtney Walsh's record of 519 test wickets for a fast bowler on this tour. McGrath arrives in excellant form having taken wickets at 15 apiece in the recent series against Pakistan and New Zealand. He is at last free of the injuries and he averages around one more wicket per Ashes match in England than the greatest leg-spinner of all time in Shane Warne.


2 points Glenn McGrath to be Top Series Bowler @ 9/2

1 point Glenn McGrath to be Top Australian Bowler @ 2/1

1 point Shane Warne to be Top Series Bowler @ 4/1

0.5 points Brett Lee to be Top Series Bowler @ 7/1
 

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A good writeup BB. I'm sure you'll continue to make some dollars for us this series.

I do, however, seem to remember you rolling out this line several years ago.....

So for the time being, Australia dominate, yet in two or three years time their domination will be their demise as they fail to introduce and blood young players.

I guess our demise just hasn't happened yet and we just keep on keeping on!!! :D

Good luck to your Poms......coz they gonna need it!!! :mj07:

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Is Most Runs scored in the Series the same as Top Batsmen?


Are the Top Batsmen wagers for the 1st Test only? Being an American, I have no bloody clue exactly what I am wagering on, but you seem to know your stuff.

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InSpades said:
Is Most Runs scored in the Series the same as Top Batsmen?


Are the Top Batsmen wagers for the 1st Test only? Being an American, I have no bloody clue exactly what I am wagering on, but you seem to know your stuff.

IS


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'Yes' to the first question.

'No' to the second.

BB is recomending taking 'Top Team Batsmen' for both teams....that is Gilchrist in the Australian market and both Bell & Vaughan in the seperate England market rather than having a crack at 'Top Series Batsmen' which combines all players from both teams.

These are for the full five test series not the first test.

Bulldog knows his stuff and makes $$$ so get on board!!!
 

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I have been contemplating some series bets myself. I was thinking of selling Gilchrists runs on the spreads but I see you give him a shot at top Aussie bat. I am buying Pietersen's run for a small wager and taking him as top Pom bat at 11/2. I like Brett Lee at 7/1 each way (1/5 first 3) for top bowler. On the correct scores I am going with Australia 3-1 (11/2) for a unit and a half unit on 4-1 at 14/1.

An interesting market I saw on the spreads was fastest century. I bought at 117 (was 115) as I can't see anyone getting 100 in less balls than 117. Any thoughts?
 

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to score a century in test cricket in less than 117 balls will take some doing. It has a reasonable chance as Gilchrist, Flintoff and Pieterson can all move the score quickly when the team or the state of the game dictates so.

It is not a play I would make because the upside (profit) is limited compared to the downside (loss). What I mean is if the fastest hundred is scored in 140 balls which is still quick by test standards, you would lose 23 x your unit stake. To get the same return profit wise you would be looking at someone to score a hundred in 95 balls.

It is only my view, so please don't let me put you off making the bet.

This has been a strong sport for me (profit wise) here at madjacks in the past alongwith soccer. I can't guarantee profits again, but if the past is anything to go by then if we lose it will only be small.

Just taken my place in the stands here at Lords and the first ball is less than 30 minutes away now. Atmosphere building, sun is shining and we look set for a good days cricket.

Finished my first drink and the sun block is out.

LET THE BATTLE COMMENCE.
 

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WOW.....England bowling up a storm as Aussies are 97/5 at lunch.

Thanks for your view BB. To clarify my spread bet is over 117 balls to get a century as I too was thinking 150 is a more likey number in test cricket. I honestly can't see Gilchrist getting a century in the series and I think Pietersen will concentrate on occupying the crease as he may still be auditioning in his test debut. 'Freddy Flintoff' is the one I worry about most.

Have a pint for me! Do you have any banners....or something that stands out so we know its you on camera catching Flintoff's 6?
 

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I'm guessing that being Canadian means you don't know too much about cricket (not that you don't have a fine team over there!! :142smilie ).

Mate...I'm here to tell you... Gilchrist will score at least one century during this series.

He is still the most dangerous batsmen in the world and will, at some point, stick it to the poms with the bat in a serious way!!


OK....as I type the Aussies are all out for 190 in the first innings!!!!

.....gulp.....



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Pawa;
You are half right. I've only been following cricket for 3 years....not popular in North America. But I've spent a lot off time in Europe in the last 3 years and I think cricket is by far the best non-North American sport there is. My favourite players are Brett Lee and Andrew Flintoff.....my favourite team is Lancashire. I think Afridi is the most entertaining batter currently.
Internationally, I root for Canada and whoever I bet on. Gilchrist has been a joy to watch and in my top 10 fav players but I think he has lost a batsmens step this year.....in fact I can't remember his last century (he has 15 from 68 test matches and 11 from 219 ODI career). The main thing is, I think (hope) it will be a patient batter on either side to score a hundred against these bowlers. And as you mentioned.....if today is any indication of what is to come, nobody will get there.

So when Gilchrist pops a hundred in 80 you can say 'told you so' or when maybe someone like Vaughn gets the only century in 200 balls, it will look like I know what I am doing. I did lay England (exchanges) at 1.77 for a good amount after that Aussie 1st inning so I am confident that I will make my profit for the series after the 1st match. Although I have Pietersen top bat so I need something from him.
 

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What a entertaining days cricket. From a personnal betting perspective, I traded on betfair whilst at the game and I am in a no lose situation regardless of the result.


First i traded the draw and anyone who is able to trade on the exchanges this is the only bet I recommend anyone doing. it's been money in the bank for the last three years and some of us were wise enough to latch on in the early stages.

As the first wicket fell I supported England and traded Australia. I then kept betting back at various stages in the game until Australia were all out.

As an idea, I layed the draw at 2.72 (+172) and bet it back at 30.0 (+2900)

I layed Australia at 1.81 (-124) and bet them back at an average price of 7.24 (+624)

I bet England at 5.3 (+433) and layed back at an average price of 1.89 (-112)


These profits wont be recorded as clearly they are only personal plays but I will say I have set myself up nicely for the remainder of the Summer.


Recommendations haven't quite gone our way with the batsman markets but the good news is McGrath has five wickets already and will look to pick up another couple early Friday morning.

Today was like two boxers going at it from the first bell. First blood to harmison as he has Langer in trouble to a ball which lifted sharply of a back of a length delivery. Then the Aussie's came back scoring fluently only for England to counter with the loss of Heyden's wicket. Back and forth it went all morning and part of the afternoon. Then the killer blow as Australia rip the heart out of England, or should I say McGrath ripped the heart out of england as he went through the English top order like a knife through hot butter as he picked up 5 wickets for just 2 runs in 30 deliveries. Awesome.
 

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BB.....sounds like you locked in some major dough. Do you bring a laptop to the match....or do you just use a cell phone. Somebody was telling me I could get one of these fancy vodaphones and use the internet from virtually any where in the world. I ask as I am thinking of attending a cricket match this summer and Betfair has In-Running on them all.

I backed England at 5.4 after laying them at 1.77. Pietersen needs 2 more runs and that should hold up for 1st inning top England bat...which will make me a happy camper early in the series.
 

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alb you asked "Do you bring a laptop to the match....or do you just use a cell phone. Somebody was telling me I could get one of these fancy vodaphones and use the internet from virtually any where in the world. I ask as I am thinking of attending a cricket match this summer and Betfair has In-Running on them all."

If you have an account with betfair, just need a standard mobile phone and phone through. You may need to take prices different from originally quoted because the market is for ever fluctuating and you will be advised as to what the prices are when the representative is making the bet on your behalf. I think there is a minimum bet amount (?50) but I am not exactly sure of the amount because (with out trying to be big headed) I deal in larger figures. My starting bank for this series was 12K and a unit is around ?250 for me.

Let me know when you intend to come to a game and I will try and meet up with you. It may even be that i am able to get you a complimentry ticket or two as alot of the time I am at these matches as a guest of a bookmaker.



Pawa, I like the Rocky II theme, and agree with your wisdom. The only chance England have is the weather which is expected in London some time Sunday. That's not to say it will hit Lords and that the game won't be over by then.
 

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A good 11 hours before day 4 and the price on the draw has collapsed (down to 4/1). Surely it can't rain for 2 days. The Aussies should have it wrapped up in 2 sessions.....maybe 1 if Pietersen gets out early enough. Speaking of which, he just needs another 3 runs to be the top England batter again. :clap:

He is definitely the batter to be on throughout the series.
 

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Much as I hate to post anything negative on here, I can't let yet another bout of plagarism pass by the 'bulldog'.

If you want to read the original articles (complete with exactly the same selections) then read the links below. At least some wording has been changed this time.......

http://www.bettingzone.co.uk/cricke...TORY_NAME=betting/05/07/15/manual_122547.html

http://www.bettingzone.co.uk/cricke...TORY_NAME=betting/05/07/15/manual_112959.html

A couple of other questions to my favourite fantasist - how did you get on Australia at over 7.00 when the best price they were traded at on betfair was 3.15 ?? (or did you look in the wrong box when you copied the prices??) - also why were you trading on your mobile phone from the stands (meaning you have to wait for the operator to answer and match your bets), when it appears you were sat in the stands typing on a wireless lap top??? surely pressing the keys yourself would have been much more effective?

Also, do you mind my asking which Bookmaker was doing the entertaining? Generally they only take profitable clients....

You post some ok stuff when you are giving a view on events you have just watched, it just winds me up when it gets exaggerated beyond reason.

hoss

ps nice work on pietersen alb.
 
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Hoss,

I will certainly answer your question's and points you raise.

First, i do research for several sites including sporting life which is the parent company of betting-zone.

Secondly, I recommend selections from my findings and these are used by journalists to put into write-ups.

Thirdly, mind your own f%&king business which bookmaker entertained me, and

Fourth, I used my phone because the lap top I used at the start of play on Thursday was the property of the bookmakers that were entertaining me and it would have been inappropriate of me to trade away on any of the exchanges when I was a guest of another bookmaker.

However, your such a hypocrite I guess you would have just traded away.

BTW, I've been absent from this site for many months, but still visited every now again, much like you do. I was just waiting to see how long it would be before you or another forum contributor of many months ago would come back on here and try and trash me like you and the other failed before. But as I said before, how can someone make accusation's or try and be-little someone without having any knowledge of their present background.
 

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Two more points I have to say;


1. I also compile lines for a bookmaker in two sports, one of which is cricket, which are to a 100% book (freelance odds compiler) and then their chief odds compiler add in their over-round, and


2. That is all I have to say on the matters you raised, so post away afterwards, but you won't get a response from me.


best wishes to you F.R.I.S.P.
 

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Question

To Bulldog (or any other), being an American ignorant of cricket why did you bet the 2-1, 2-2, etc. when it's a best of 5 match?

Do some tests not count? There's plenty about cricket i don't get, but this is the one that puzzles me the most.

Thanks
 
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