lets get this bitch Started. Real racing starts this weekend. Waiting on early lines, have some nice leans if the prices are right.
Auto Club 500. California
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Sadler +3750 1/2 unit.
He's driving the Same shit as Kahne and knows how to turn the wheel. I would put him at +1700 or so.
Got it at thegreek.com
He's driving the Same shit as Kahne and knows how to turn the wheel. I would put him at +1700 or so.
Got it at thegreek.com
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Got a few early ones myself:
Any Kurt Busch qualify matchups you can find.Last 4 qualied 1,1,3,and 20 @ Cal. Ironic but best finish 3rd was when he started 20th.
Carl Edwards(13-1)Win--- Always runs well here.Last 2 years 3rd,4th(twice),and a 5th. Good for a matchup play as well.
Kurt Busch(19-1)--- Qualifies well,but has struggled in the race.Good odds.
Matt Kenseth(10-1)---Think these odds go down by racetime. Came from 31st to win it last Feb.
Will have later in the week.
Also agree with toast on Sadler(38-1)--- Great odds.
Any Kurt Busch qualify matchups you can find.Last 4 qualied 1,1,3,and 20 @ Cal. Ironic but best finish 3rd was when he started 20th.
Carl Edwards(13-1)Win--- Always runs well here.Last 2 years 3rd,4th(twice),and a 5th. Good for a matchup play as well.
Kurt Busch(19-1)--- Qualifies well,but has struggled in the race.Good odds.
Matt Kenseth(10-1)---Think these odds go down by racetime. Came from 31st to win it last Feb.
Will have later in the week.
Also agree with toast on Sadler(38-1)--- Great odds.
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ok in 2005 Carl Edwards won four races and in three of those races he was under chassis no. RK-270 the same chassis he`s running this weekend.
wins at Atlanta,Pocono and Atlanta.
Like Kegray posted he has solid finishes here.also has lead laps in the last four California except the spring race here last year when Biffle flat dominated.
Tho is`t been awhile since I`ve seen a blackflip,got to take a shot here
Carl Edwards 13-1
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wins at Atlanta,Pocono and Atlanta.
Like Kegray posted he has solid finishes here.also has lead laps in the last four California except the spring race here last year when Biffle flat dominated.
Tho is`t been awhile since I`ve seen a blackflip,got to take a shot here
Carl Edwards 13-1
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Any other stats with RK-270? Where did he suck with that car?
Curious about one other thing, where did you get that information at?
GL to you btw
Curious about one other thing, where did you get that information at?
GL to you btw
race2win is a must, as well as catchfence.
If you can get you hands "the real" laptracker sheets from practices you will be golden. I get them from time to time. unfortunately its not an everyweek thing.
If you can get you hands "the real" laptracker sheets from practices you will be golden. I get them from time to time. unfortunately its not an everyweek thing.
I am smelling a double backflip this weekend boys.
One on Sat and one on Sun.
EDWARDS(8-1) Busch win --- 100
EDWARDS(13-1) Nextel win--- 100
EDWARDS TOP 3 FINISH(4-1) Nextel--- 50.
California is not a track where accident occur.As long as he has the proper setup then TOP 3 should be there.
As for the Busch race, he took the pole and finished 3rd last Feb.(not as strong the 2nd time around 12th place). Edwards really wants to win the Busch Series this season.
One on Sat and one on Sun.
EDWARDS(8-1) Busch win --- 100
EDWARDS(13-1) Nextel win--- 100
EDWARDS TOP 3 FINISH(4-1) Nextel--- 50.
California is not a track where accident occur.As long as he has the proper setup then TOP 3 should be there.
As for the Busch race, he took the pole and finished 3rd last Feb.(not as strong the 2nd time around 12th place). Edwards really wants to win the Busch Series this season.
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Solid piece of information here!! If any time you run across this please let me in on it.
BTW give`em hell this year toast!:toast:
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DOMINATION
DOMINATION
Statistically Speaking: Tale of two owners
By Dan Beaver, Yahoo! Sports
February 22, 2007
With apologies to Mr. Dickens, California Speedway has always been a "Tale of Two Owners."
Between them, Rick Hendrick and Jack Roush own nine victories in 13 Nextel Cup races held at this track, with Hendrick holding a slight advantage of five victories to Roush's four.
The battle for supremacy in terms of wins has raged since Jeff Gordon won the inaugural race in 1997. The following year, Mark Martin took Roush Racing to victory lane before Gordon posted a second victory in 1999. After dominating the first three years on this track, Hendrick and Roush gave up the victory for two consecutive seasons before Jimmie Johnson restored order and took the checkered flag in 2002.
Not to be outdone, Roush claimed victory again in 2003 with Kurt Busch at the wheel, and since then each owner has matched the other win for win. Gordon was victorious again in 2004, Greg Biffle and Kyle Busch split the two races of 2005, and Matt Kenseth won the February 2006 race by a narrow margin over Johnson.
For the record, February '06 is not the only time these organizations ? either on their own or combined with the other ? swept the top two spots. In fact, they have accomplished that feat in seven of the 13 races held at California. Also, the fall 2005 race marked the first time Roush and Hendrick were nearly perfect in regard to top-five finishes, as the younger Busch brother beat not only Roush's Biffle, but also his teammate Brian Vickers (finished third) and Carl Edwards (fourth). Notably, each of these drivers were in their first, second or third year of competition.
It is Hendrick's turn to win this time around, but with seven different Cup race winners ? plus Casey Mears, who could contend for victory ? coming out of these two stables, it is really anyone's race inside those camps. And actually, the smart money is on Roush's Edwards.
Ever since he first set a wheel on California Speedway, Edwards has been perfect in regard to top-10 finishes. He was sixth during his inaugural attempt in fall 2004 two weeks after he finished 10th on the similarly-configured Michigan International Speedway in his Nextel Cup debut. He has only improved since. His next four California races were all in the top 10, and even though he has yet to win on this two-mile track or its older sister in the Midwest, it is only a matter of time.
With nine teams entered in the Cup race this week, Hendrick and Roush could literally sweep the top five finishing positions and virtually sweep the top 10. In 112 Cup starts at Fontana, these two owners have captured 32 top-fives (28.5 percent of their entries), 50 top-10s (44.6 percent), and have finished outside the top 25 only 22 times.
Between them, either Hendrick or Roush has placed at least one of their drivers in the top five in every Cup race at California, and in 2005 they placed four of their drivers at the top of the field in both of the season's races at Fontana. On two occasions, in 1998 and in the spring of 2006, Hendrick and Roush claimed six of the top 10 positions, so perfection is within their grasp.
On average, they have captured half of the top-fives and 40 percent of the available top-10s since California Speedway opened.
While Hendrick holds a slight edge in Cup competition, Roush has salved his wounds in the support series. From May 2004 through February 2006, Roushketeers swept Busch's victory lane with Biffle winning three of five races, and Edwards and Martin taking one win apiece. More impressive still, Roush swept all three NASCAR races held at California last February with Martin taking the Craftsman Truck Series trophy before Biffle won the Busch race and Kenseth took the Cup event.
Overall, Roush has been much more successful in the Busch series. He not has only dominated victory lane, he has 11 more top-10s in 19 starts compared to a measly four results outside the top 25. Hendrick has only three Busch top-10s and no top-fives to his credit at California, but only one of his drivers finished outside the top 25 in 10 starts.
Only Roush has fielded entries in the trucks, but he's been a major force there as well. In eight entries, none of his drivers have ever finished outside the top 15, and Martin's victory last year was preceded by third- and fourth-place finishes from Ricky Craven and Todd Kluever, respectively, in 2005.
Fans of competing teams can only wait for this dominance to wane, but with numbers like these, that is likely to take some time.
Roush and Hendrick at Fontana
Date Race Winner Owner
Nextel Cup
2/26/2006 Auto Club 500 Matt Kenseth Jack Roush
9/4/2005 Sony HD 500 Kyle Busch Rick Hendrick
2/27/2005 Auto Club 500 Greg Biffle Jack Roush
5/2/2004 Auto Club 500 Jeff Gordon Rick Hendrick
4/27/2003 Auto Club 500 Kurt Busch Jack Roush
4/28/2002 NAPA Auto Parts 500 Jimmie Johnson Rick Hendrick
5/2/1999 California 500 by NAPA Jeff Gordon Rick Hendrick
5/3/1998 California 500 by NAPA Mark Martin Jack Roush
6/22/1997 California 500 Jeff Gordon Rick Hendrick
Busch
2/25/2006 Stater Bros 300 Greg Biffle Jack Roush
9/3/2005 Ameriquest 300 Carl Edwards Jack Roush
2/26/2005 Stater Bros 300 Mark Martin Jack Roush
9/4/2004 Target House 300 Greg Biffle Jack Roush
5/1/2004 Stater Bros 300 Greg Biffle Jack Roush
Trucks
2/24/2006 racetickets.com 200 Mark Martin Jack Roush
Dan Beaver of dba Media provides editorial and fantasy racing coverage and analysis to Yahoo! Sports.
DOMINATION
Statistically Speaking: Tale of two owners
By Dan Beaver, Yahoo! Sports
February 22, 2007
With apologies to Mr. Dickens, California Speedway has always been a "Tale of Two Owners."
Between them, Rick Hendrick and Jack Roush own nine victories in 13 Nextel Cup races held at this track, with Hendrick holding a slight advantage of five victories to Roush's four.
The battle for supremacy in terms of wins has raged since Jeff Gordon won the inaugural race in 1997. The following year, Mark Martin took Roush Racing to victory lane before Gordon posted a second victory in 1999. After dominating the first three years on this track, Hendrick and Roush gave up the victory for two consecutive seasons before Jimmie Johnson restored order and took the checkered flag in 2002.
Not to be outdone, Roush claimed victory again in 2003 with Kurt Busch at the wheel, and since then each owner has matched the other win for win. Gordon was victorious again in 2004, Greg Biffle and Kyle Busch split the two races of 2005, and Matt Kenseth won the February 2006 race by a narrow margin over Johnson.
For the record, February '06 is not the only time these organizations ? either on their own or combined with the other ? swept the top two spots. In fact, they have accomplished that feat in seven of the 13 races held at California. Also, the fall 2005 race marked the first time Roush and Hendrick were nearly perfect in regard to top-five finishes, as the younger Busch brother beat not only Roush's Biffle, but also his teammate Brian Vickers (finished third) and Carl Edwards (fourth). Notably, each of these drivers were in their first, second or third year of competition.
It is Hendrick's turn to win this time around, but with seven different Cup race winners ? plus Casey Mears, who could contend for victory ? coming out of these two stables, it is really anyone's race inside those camps. And actually, the smart money is on Roush's Edwards.
Ever since he first set a wheel on California Speedway, Edwards has been perfect in regard to top-10 finishes. He was sixth during his inaugural attempt in fall 2004 two weeks after he finished 10th on the similarly-configured Michigan International Speedway in his Nextel Cup debut. He has only improved since. His next four California races were all in the top 10, and even though he has yet to win on this two-mile track or its older sister in the Midwest, it is only a matter of time.
With nine teams entered in the Cup race this week, Hendrick and Roush could literally sweep the top five finishing positions and virtually sweep the top 10. In 112 Cup starts at Fontana, these two owners have captured 32 top-fives (28.5 percent of their entries), 50 top-10s (44.6 percent), and have finished outside the top 25 only 22 times.
Between them, either Hendrick or Roush has placed at least one of their drivers in the top five in every Cup race at California, and in 2005 they placed four of their drivers at the top of the field in both of the season's races at Fontana. On two occasions, in 1998 and in the spring of 2006, Hendrick and Roush claimed six of the top 10 positions, so perfection is within their grasp.
On average, they have captured half of the top-fives and 40 percent of the available top-10s since California Speedway opened.
While Hendrick holds a slight edge in Cup competition, Roush has salved his wounds in the support series. From May 2004 through February 2006, Roushketeers swept Busch's victory lane with Biffle winning three of five races, and Edwards and Martin taking one win apiece. More impressive still, Roush swept all three NASCAR races held at California last February with Martin taking the Craftsman Truck Series trophy before Biffle won the Busch race and Kenseth took the Cup event.
Overall, Roush has been much more successful in the Busch series. He not has only dominated victory lane, he has 11 more top-10s in 19 starts compared to a measly four results outside the top 25. Hendrick has only three Busch top-10s and no top-fives to his credit at California, but only one of his drivers finished outside the top 25 in 10 starts.
Only Roush has fielded entries in the trucks, but he's been a major force there as well. In eight entries, none of his drivers have ever finished outside the top 15, and Martin's victory last year was preceded by third- and fourth-place finishes from Ricky Craven and Todd Kluever, respectively, in 2005.
Fans of competing teams can only wait for this dominance to wane, but with numbers like these, that is likely to take some time.
Roush and Hendrick at Fontana
Date Race Winner Owner
Nextel Cup
2/26/2006 Auto Club 500 Matt Kenseth Jack Roush
9/4/2005 Sony HD 500 Kyle Busch Rick Hendrick
2/27/2005 Auto Club 500 Greg Biffle Jack Roush
5/2/2004 Auto Club 500 Jeff Gordon Rick Hendrick
4/27/2003 Auto Club 500 Kurt Busch Jack Roush
4/28/2002 NAPA Auto Parts 500 Jimmie Johnson Rick Hendrick
5/2/1999 California 500 by NAPA Jeff Gordon Rick Hendrick
5/3/1998 California 500 by NAPA Mark Martin Jack Roush
6/22/1997 California 500 Jeff Gordon Rick Hendrick
Busch
2/25/2006 Stater Bros 300 Greg Biffle Jack Roush
9/3/2005 Ameriquest 300 Carl Edwards Jack Roush
2/26/2005 Stater Bros 300 Mark Martin Jack Roush
9/4/2004 Target House 300 Greg Biffle Jack Roush
5/1/2004 Stater Bros 300 Greg Biffle Jack Roush
Trucks
2/24/2006 racetickets.com 200 Mark Martin Jack Roush
Dan Beaver of dba Media provides editorial and fantasy racing coverage and analysis to Yahoo! Sports.
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Maturing Busch a favorite at California
By MIKE HARRIS, AP Auto Racing Writer
February 23, 2007
FONTANA, Calif. (AP) -- Age is no longer an issue for Kyle Busch.
For a while, his accomplishments were attributed to precocious driving. His mistakes? Simply youthful error. Now, starting his third Nextel Cup season and approaching 22, Busch is ready to be judged strictly on his merits.
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Busch had a good week at Daytona, but a rookielike miscue on the last lap of Sunday's Daytona 500 ruined everything he had built to that point.
``We were running in second at the green-white-checkered finish and I was on Mark Martin's bumper pushing him because that was two Hendrick Motorsports engines working together,'' Busch said. ``I tried to move up for a block (on Kevin Harvick), but it was too late.
``I settled back in line and when we went down the frontstretch I got loose from the air off the 17 car (Matt Kenseth) and went down to the apron and spun out.''
Busch slid into Kenseth and a seven-car crash ensued. Harvick, ahead of the melee, outraced Martin to the finish line by the length of a hood to win the season-opening race. Busch couldn't even face the media following the race, scrambling out of his battered No. 5 Hendrick Motorsports Chevrolet and walking off to be alone with his thoughts.
``It was the last lap of the biggest race of the year and there were five guys going for a win,'' said Busch, ready to bounce back in Sunday's Auto Club 500 at California Speedway. ``It could have happened at any point during the race, but it happened then.
``I didn't want it to end that way and I know no one else did, either. It's unfortunate because we really stepped up this year and had a dominating performance throughout the entire week.''
Busch held the lead in each of the four NASCAR events he entered at Daytona and led more laps (120) than any other driver during the nine-day stretch. He led 39 laps in the Budweiser Shootout, 31 in his 150-mile qualifying race, 46 in the Busch Series race and four in the Daytona 500.
He finished seventh in the Shootout, fourth in his qualifier, 37th in the Busch race -- thanks to a faulty fuel pump -- and 24th in the 500.
``That certainly wasn't what we expected going into Daytona,'' Busch said. ``This team is capable of better, and so is the driver. Now, we just have to put that behind us and get ourselves headed in the right direction. Fontana is a good place to make that happen.''
Busch, along with Hendrick teammates Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson, will be among the favorites at California speedway, a track where he has already had some success.
In a six-race introduction to Nextel Cup in 2004, a 24th-place finish in September at California Speedway was his best finish.
On the way to the rookie of the year in 2005, Busch earned his first Cup pole on the 2-mile oval at Fontana in February and his first victory in September. Last year, he had finishes of 10th and eighth at the two California events.
``I like the flatness of California,'' Busch said, referring to the banking that ranges from 3 degrees on the backstretch to 14-degrees in the turns. ``I grew up on a relatively flat track at the Las Vegas Bullring and I've done well at New Hampshire and Phoenix, so I guess it just suits my style of driving.''
Alan Gustafson, Busch's crew chief, is also looking for a considerably better result.
``I think we've shown our potential at California in the past. ... I think Daytona showed a good dose of what is to come from this team.
``It's too bad we didn't finish the deal, but Kyle figured out the draft, the team did their job and everything was in line to win that race. This week, we're going to a racetrack where we can win and we're taking a really good car. So we hope to have at least a top-five finish.''
Updated on Friday, Feb 23, 2007 3:47 pm EST
By MIKE HARRIS, AP Auto Racing Writer
February 23, 2007
FONTANA, Calif. (AP) -- Age is no longer an issue for Kyle Busch.
For a while, his accomplishments were attributed to precocious driving. His mistakes? Simply youthful error. Now, starting his third Nextel Cup season and approaching 22, Busch is ready to be judged strictly on his merits.
ADVERTISEMENT
Busch had a good week at Daytona, but a rookielike miscue on the last lap of Sunday's Daytona 500 ruined everything he had built to that point.
``We were running in second at the green-white-checkered finish and I was on Mark Martin's bumper pushing him because that was two Hendrick Motorsports engines working together,'' Busch said. ``I tried to move up for a block (on Kevin Harvick), but it was too late.
``I settled back in line and when we went down the frontstretch I got loose from the air off the 17 car (Matt Kenseth) and went down to the apron and spun out.''
Busch slid into Kenseth and a seven-car crash ensued. Harvick, ahead of the melee, outraced Martin to the finish line by the length of a hood to win the season-opening race. Busch couldn't even face the media following the race, scrambling out of his battered No. 5 Hendrick Motorsports Chevrolet and walking off to be alone with his thoughts.
``It was the last lap of the biggest race of the year and there were five guys going for a win,'' said Busch, ready to bounce back in Sunday's Auto Club 500 at California Speedway. ``It could have happened at any point during the race, but it happened then.
``I didn't want it to end that way and I know no one else did, either. It's unfortunate because we really stepped up this year and had a dominating performance throughout the entire week.''
Busch held the lead in each of the four NASCAR events he entered at Daytona and led more laps (120) than any other driver during the nine-day stretch. He led 39 laps in the Budweiser Shootout, 31 in his 150-mile qualifying race, 46 in the Busch Series race and four in the Daytona 500.
He finished seventh in the Shootout, fourth in his qualifier, 37th in the Busch race -- thanks to a faulty fuel pump -- and 24th in the 500.
``That certainly wasn't what we expected going into Daytona,'' Busch said. ``This team is capable of better, and so is the driver. Now, we just have to put that behind us and get ourselves headed in the right direction. Fontana is a good place to make that happen.''
Busch, along with Hendrick teammates Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson, will be among the favorites at California speedway, a track where he has already had some success.
In a six-race introduction to Nextel Cup in 2004, a 24th-place finish in September at California Speedway was his best finish.
On the way to the rookie of the year in 2005, Busch earned his first Cup pole on the 2-mile oval at Fontana in February and his first victory in September. Last year, he had finishes of 10th and eighth at the two California events.
``I like the flatness of California,'' Busch said, referring to the banking that ranges from 3 degrees on the backstretch to 14-degrees in the turns. ``I grew up on a relatively flat track at the Las Vegas Bullring and I've done well at New Hampshire and Phoenix, so I guess it just suits my style of driving.''
Alan Gustafson, Busch's crew chief, is also looking for a considerably better result.
``I think we've shown our potential at California in the past. ... I think Daytona showed a good dose of what is to come from this team.
``It's too bad we didn't finish the deal, but Kyle figured out the draft, the team did their job and everything was in line to win that race. This week, we're going to a racetrack where we can win and we're taking a really good car. So we hope to have at least a top-five finish.''
Updated on Friday, Feb 23, 2007 3:47 pm EST
got jimmy j -115 over jeff g on tuesday
the line is now jj -185 gordon +155 :brows: ..
but i have a feeling the gaming gods are playing with me .. in a blind draw at the local bar i recieved gordon to hit 1st or 2nd ... if the 24 beats the 48 and finish 3rd or more the gods have no mercy ...:mj07:
the line is now jj -185 gordon +155 :brows: ..
but i have a feeling the gaming gods are playing with me .. in a blind draw at the local bar i recieved gordon to hit 1st or 2nd ... if the 24 beats the 48 and finish 3rd or more the gods have no mercy ...:mj07:
