Cops and sobriety checkpoint: Who's right here?

gardenweasel

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"officur...arr you detaineeen us,officur?....

officur...do we appeeer to be eentoxicated,officur?

officur...thees ees my private property,officur"...

i`m sure there were other people coming up behind them that wanted to do what needed to be done and be on their way.....the cops are just doing their jobs....

this is why i could never be a cop....if i were the cop,i would have taken the other officer aside and tried to figure out where we could dispose of the bodies....

this is the type of thing that just drives your average joe just going about his business crazy....and an excellent example of some of the shit that makes some cops become extremely jaded and overreactionary....

f-ckin` pricks...
 

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Show his license and they let him go with the window up. :142smilie.
Nice cops.:shrug:
 

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According to the North County Times (Whoever they are)http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/escondido/article_7c818a45-7fe1-55d2-a6f7-2f17f212f65d.html

They cited a state attorney general's report issued in March that says, among other things, that driver's license checkpoints violate a state law that says police can't stop drivers simply to check their licenses.

"The statute is clear," said David Blair-Loy, legal director for the ACLU in San Diego. "Driver's license checkpoints are illegal in California. The Escondido Police Department should stop them immediately."

A spokeswoman for Attorney General Jerry Brown said the report was in response to a Los Angeles County city's checkpoints and was not intended to be a formal opinion on the legality of driver's license checkpoints.



Who knew that punk kids could be right? :shrug:
 

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i thought it was a "sobriety" checkpoint?.....

this is all about keep illegal immigration acceptable in california...these dildo`s are political henchmen...

hell,i went to vote in maryland this past year and i went to show my license and they told me to put it away....i asked them how they knew i was who i said i was....no answer....

they want anarchy...they want to destroy our sovereignty...seriously..
 

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Weird. I don't.

Something that seems to be lost in this...... driving is a privilege, not a right. While some officers may be total douchebags, the best way to handle a traffic stop is to do what the nice officer says. It makes for an easier outcome. I mean, what is to be gained by pissing them off, especially when you have done nothing wrong?

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I am with the legal hispanics. What they were trying to establish with this video is that California was still operating illegal stops to check for a driver's license, which obviously most "illegals" do not have and it turns into a round up of illegals instead of a soberity check point, which are only legal in the United States to keep the roads safe from drunk drivers, because driving is a privlegde, however each individual has a consitutional right not to be illegally searched, seized or detained. When they kept asking if they were free to leave is Law School 101. An officer has to have Probable Cause to arrest you or keep you from leaving, here they clearly did not, they wanted to see their licenses, but never once said they suspected they were drunk, eventhough gardenweasel doesnt like their accents, cause they dont talk like white men, they were not drunk and obviously there was no smell of alcohol or red watery eyes, the Cop 101 of probable cause for DUIs. Legal hispanics were simply standing up for their RIGHTS not to be harassed by the police and having their IDs checked. While I understand it is simple for most on here to think they were just causing trouble, I'd disagree, just like most thought Rosa Parks was just causing trouble when she wouldnt move to the back of the bus, it would have been simpler if she just followed the "rules". Some things dont change without discourse.
 

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I am with the legal hispanics. What they were trying to establish with this video is that California was still operating illegal stops to check for a driver's license, which obviously most "illegals" do not have and it turns into a round up of illegals instead of a soberity check point, which are only legal in the United States to keep the roads safe from drunk drivers, because driving is a privlegde, however each individual has a consitutional right not to be illegally searched, seized or detained. When they kept asking if they were free to leave is Law School 101. An officer has to have Probable Cause to arrest you or keep you from leaving, here they clearly did not, they wanted to see their licenses, but never once said they suspected they were drunk, eventhough gardenweasel doesnt like their accents, cause they dont talk like white men, they were not drunk and obviously there was no smell of alcohol or red watery eyes, the Cop 101 of probable cause for DUIs. Legal hispanics were simply standing up for their RIGHTS not to be harassed by the police and having their IDs checked. While I understand it is simple for most on here to think they were just causing trouble, I'd disagree, just like most thought Rosa Parks was just causing trouble when she wouldnt move to the back of the bus, it would have been simpler if she just followed the "rules". Some things dont change without discourse.
Makes a lot of sense and my mind has changed since reading your post. :0008
 

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I am with the legal hispanics. What they were trying to establish with this video is that California was still operating illegal stops to check for a driver's license, which obviously most "illegals" do not have and it turns into a round up of illegals instead of a soberity check point, which are only legal in the United States to keep the roads safe from drunk drivers, because driving is a privlegde, however each individual has a consitutional right not to be illegally searched, seized or detained. When they kept asking if they were free to leave is Law School 101. An officer has to have Probable Cause to arrest you or keep you from leaving, here they clearly did not, they wanted to see their licenses, but never once said they suspected they were drunk, eventhough gardenweasel doesnt like their accents, cause they dont talk like white men, they were not drunk and obviously there was no smell of alcohol or red watery eyes, the Cop 101 of probable cause for DUIs. Legal hispanics were simply standing up for their RIGHTS not to be harassed by the police and having their IDs checked. While I understand it is simple for most on here to think they were just causing trouble, I'd disagree, just like most thought Rosa Parks was just causing trouble when she wouldnt move to the back of the bus, it would have been simpler if she just followed the "rules". Some things dont change without discourse.

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Sobriety checkpoints are pretty sketchy. And because of that, even the ones that are allowed have to follow all sorts of rules (at least in California). Such as: they have to advertise ahead of time where checkpoint is going to be, have defined methodology for which cars they are going to stop (ie if the rule for that night is "stop every 4th car" they can't suddenly change that if they don't like the color of your skin or your grateful dead bumper sticker) etc.

Why are the rules so specific? Because this is America and stopping people randomly or in an organized fashion who are otherwise not exhibiting any suspicion of illegal activity was frowned upon by the people who fought for our independence. Governments don't HAVE to be all powerful and overbearing and the United States was the first, best example of that. Not that it lasted very long, but damn what a great idea it was.
 
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I am with the legal hispanics. What they were trying to establish with this video is that California was still operating illegal stops to check for a driver's license, which obviously most "illegals" do not have and it turns into a round up of illegals instead of a soberity check point, which are only legal in the United States to keep the roads safe from drunk drivers, because driving is a privlegde, however each individual has a consitutional right not to be illegally searched, seized or detained. When they kept asking if they were free to leave is Law School 101. An officer has to have Probable Cause to arrest you or keep you from leaving, here they clearly did not, they wanted to see their licenses, but never once said they suspected they were drunk, eventhough gardenweasel doesnt like their accents, cause they dont talk like white men, they were not drunk and obviously there was no smell of alcohol or red watery eyes, the Cop 101 of probable cause for DUIs. Legal hispanics were simply standing up for their RIGHTS not to be harassed by the police and having their IDs checked. While I understand it is simple for most on here to think they were just causing trouble, I'd disagree, just like most thought Rosa Parks was just causing trouble when she wouldnt move to the back of the bus, it would have been simpler if she just followed the "rules". Some things dont change without discourse.

not only did you manage to make weasel look like a jackass, but you changed my mind on how i thought about it...good rosa parks analogy
 
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