yeah thats right, TO is a winner and McNabb with no running game is a loser ... the guy def. made some bad plays tonight, but my gawd he has qb'd them to 4 straight NFC finals, and the naysayers can say he sux etc--but line up your HOFs and see how many did that, including Marino and Manning, et al ... the guys playing hurt to max and still competing .... He doesnt run anymore for pretty obvious reasons ... Was i disappointed about the game, heck yeah, but I still respect the hell out of DM ... Personally I would fault the Philly management for bringing in a psycho and paying him ridic $$$ all to have it implode .... how many of you work with people you cant abide who say stuff to an entire nation about you etc ... walk in another man's shoes at times, in this case someone with class and toughness ... almost everytime Ive seen DM throw it away the last 2 weeks he's had a cricket's chance on a hot griddle to do anything, these guys coming after him are 300+ and run 5 flat 40s---i doubt many of us would be out there shouting "Torro!"