HOW MANY TIMES SEC AND BIG 12 people

[Theboundbook]

IS IT GONNA TAKE TO PROVE THAT MTN WEST UPSETS ALL THESE TOP 3 TEAMS AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN... UTAH SHOULD BE THE REAL #1 last year..... (not this year... God we looked bad on Thurs....)


Love it that BYU won... Too bad Hall was hurt... All the OKY backers are gonna say, "oh if he wasnt hurt, blah blah blah...." BYU owned em from the start.... 3 turnovers they gave up including 1 on the one which went for 3 the other way and still held on to win.... CONGRATS TO MY UTAH ENEMY BLUE TEAM... You will help MTN WEST get more money and maybe, just maybe, a little more respect...


GO UTES!!!

 

[airportis]

great upset win by BYU but seriously, you are out of your mind if you think Utah was the #1 team last year

 

[kegray1]

The only real #1 that Utah was last year was the real #1 team that should have got a shot to play for the title.
BYU win was huge and maybe Hall was banged up,but OU would have found a way to win with Bradford for 4 quarters.

 

[GoTerps]

Utah destroyed alabama .....worse than the
"number 1" team did..

 

[kegray1]

Utah destroyed alabama .....worse than the
"number 1" team did..

And Texas beat OU last year but lets not start that thread up again.

I think we can all agree the system BLOWS.

 

[GoTerps]

Agreed on that

 

[Theboundbook]

Utah destroyed alabama .....worse than the
"number 1" team did..

Absolutely.... Utah for 2 of the last 3 years gone undefeated, and supposedly we 'upset' ALA and 'upset' Pitt (no idea why they were there)...

Our 2004 team could have beat ANYBODY THAT YEAR....

If FUCKING BAYLOR and BUTLER AND VANDY CAN WIN A FUCKING CHAMPIONSHIP WHY CANT UTAH???????? SEC AND Power conferences dont want us to be able to recruit BCS money players until we can get in the BCS.... LET US IN...


FLA vs. UTAH 2004, or last year would have been a game to remember as a championship game.... THEN, FLA would know they were 'REAL' Champs or NOT....

 

[ppabart]

:00x14 :00x14 :00x14

 

[Sun Tzu]

I have no respect for Utah. They backed out of playing Texas last year and this year. They sure didnt do it because they thought they would win. In fact they told Texas it was because they saw the games as losses and didnt want to risk a BCS bowl bid. That crap shouldnt be rewarded.

 

[Theboundbook]

I have no respect for Utah. They backed out of playing Texas last year and this year. They sure didnt do it because they thought they would win. In fact they told Texas it was because they saw the games as losses and didnt want to risk a BCS bowl bid. That crap shouldnt be rewarded.

I respect your opinion as a fan, but again, Texas didnt earn a bid. FLA only one last year besides Utah In MY Opinion... I can go round and round forever, but Utah will never get in til Pac 10 is Pac 12... But this thread I made today was to get people stirring/and pissed off to get us all in the mode for football season, and to remind people that UTAH has a great program. I know for a fact that the 2004 team could have beaten any team in the league that year in a 2 out of 3 series. ANY team... And last years', the DESERVED A SHOT.


I think there was more than UTAH not wanting to.... Info not quite right on that... I respect your opinion, but that is not quite the facts.... And Texas had nothing to do with championship last year, they were battling for a 'Bronze Trophy'... It was FLA (most deserving I thought to be in that game also, and Ok.... Oky n Texas would have been a better game for 3rd n 4th.....



And guys, thanks for responding and defending your opinions, I respect em all.... Wait til Utah gets the recruiting dollars you peeps have... Its like a 2k garage race car vs the Porsche Team's when it comes to selection, 'bribery dollars' (oops did I say that) , and politics... But I know, by bringing this up it is always a hot topic, because everyone sees that yea, UTAH, just might have beat FLA down.... so we took a horrid ALA team instead and embarrassed them like we did Pitt in 2004 and how BYU did in the 1st half of today's game.... (cant take that away from them, even though BYU will get no credit cuz of the people saying, IF HALL was in, blah blah blah....)

Utah, though, is in trouble this year... So, if they dont get it together quickly, I will root for whatever team in the MWC goes to a BCS bowl...

 

[Sun Tzu]

My info is right - I got it directly from someone that would know. Has nothing to do with whether Texas deserved a spot in the title game but that simply Utah did not. You puss out of a tough OOC opponent because you fear losing you dont deserve diddly. If they had played us in Austin and beaten us they would have gotten their shot wouldnt they?

 

[Theboundbook]

My info is right - I got it directly from someone that would know. Has nothing to do with whether Texas deserved a spot in the title game but that simply Utah did not. You puss out of a tough OOC opponent because you fear losing you dont deserve diddly. If they had played us in Austin and beaten us they would have gotten their shot wouldnt they?

If we beat FLA, OK, TX, and perfect season, WE STILL WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO PLAY IN CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.... That is sad. TV rights are coming up for Pac 10 (and maybe all conf??? :shrug: ) in 2012/2013 (IF WORLD DOESNT END), and supposedly we might hop in to the new PAC 12; then we could get into a championship game with A LOSS, even though MONTANA crushes 5 top 10 teams that year, and Boise ST also does the same, but we play TX with a loss also for championship cuz we BCS Conf... How it is...

2007/2008 EVERYONE of my friends that are FLA or LSU or ALA lovers were saying, yea if UTAH ever played any of us in a Bowl game you would see, SEC dominates and we play pussy teams, blah blah blah.... Well, we did, and we wanted to play FLA the next day. I would love to say that FLA was scared to play Utah and declined and passed to play OSU, but that's nonsense...

But I think the FLA players last year felt like they got the trophy yea, but didnt have to prove they were champs cuz they didnt play the real contender... IMO.

 

[airportis]

How can you even make a legit arguement that a team who plays Air Force, Wyoming, and San Diego State every year is a team that deserves to be in the National Championship?

If you want any real consideration at all, do everything you can to schedule the BEST teams as your out of conference schedule. Don't schedule teams that have become mediocre like Louisville and Oregon and expect to get big praises if you knock one of them off.

You are forgetting that Utah plays these "tough" OOC games that fill other teams schedules.

Go ahead, throw Utah up against a schedule of Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, etc. and they wouldn't post a .500 record.

 

[Theboundbook]

How can you even make a legit arguement that a team who plays Air Force, Wyoming, and San Diego State every year is a team that deserves to be in the National Championship?

If you want any real consideration at all, do everything you can to schedule the BEST teams as your out of conference schedule. Don't schedule teams that have become mediocre like Louisville and Oregon and expect to get big praises if you knock one of them off.

You are forgetting that Utah plays these "tough" OOC games that fill other teams schedules.

Go ahead, throw Utah up against a schedule of Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, etc. and they wouldn't post a .500 record.

Cuz FLA's game today was a huge worry.... Or how about Penn State's or OKLAHOMA for that matter.... Joke team's right????? ALA was the only top 10 team that earned the right this week to move up or stay where they are... FLA beating up Charleston So. should HURT them if anything.... WYO is 10x better than CHARLESTON SO's best day. M.West team's never play these gimme games....

California should move up; they earned a good win this week also; why should FLA stay #1 for beating that team? And why should TX hang on to #2? Why not put them down to 4 and 5 and push up the teams that were ranked right below em, played a much better team and won/blew out... I think the rankings would mean alot more this way.... Fla down to #4 for 1 week.... who cares? when they crush a good opponent next wk, then move em back up to #1 cuz the team that took that position played Wofford that week and barely won....

That would be in the perfect world of course....

But, like our government who is taking all of our rights faster and faster each day, and use the Constitution as toilet paper, American's beliefs of what Freedom is, and the overall situation this country in general, this system is a perfect fit.

 

[G Money]

. FLA beating up Charleston So. should HURT them if anything.... WYO is 10x better than CHARLESTON SO's best day. M.West team's never play these gimme games....

This is maybe the dumbest thing I have ever read. Are you talking about the same Wyoming team that struggled to beat Weber State today? You are right the MWC teams never play gimme games they just play Weber St twice, Texas St, Sacramento St, Nicholls St, and Southern Utah this season. Those are some real fuckin powerhouses :mj07: And the 2004 Utah team would have been destroyed by any of the other 3 unbeaten teams that year.

 

[Theboundbook]

This is maybe the dumbest thing I have ever read. Are you talking about the same Wyoming team that struggled to beat Weber State today? You are right the MWC teams never play gimme games they just play Weber St twice, Texas St, Sacramento St, Nicholls St, and Southern Utah this season. Those are some real fuckin powerhouses :mj07: And the 2004 Utah team would have been destroyed by any of the other 3 unbeaten teams that year.

I just made up some teams that totally suck or are very low on power levels... Not what really is matched up....

That is my pt.. it all means shit.... and we can go round and round and Utah never will get a shot till MTN WEST is BCS or PAC 10 goes Pac 12 or something... Plus, now, Im so hammered, Im not sure wtf I was talking about; good night guys.... Hope you all made money!!!

 

[jer-z jock]

I would venture to say IF Bama went into that game with Utah(lastyear) STILL undefeated its a different ballgame, once they lost to FLorida and all title shots were lost, the season was over for them. Utah, I do enjoy watching, they play the game the right way, BUT to match them or place them in any of these BIG BOY divisions I dont think they would fair as well with the comp they would see week in and out

 

[kegray1]

But I think the FLA players last year felt like they got the trophy yea, but didnt have to prove they were champs cuz they didnt play the real contender... IMO.

I know Mack Brown would agree with you,but he isn't talking about Utah.:mj07:

The system sucks and I wish someone running it would say it instead of spinning it every year.
Same old story of it will all sort out in the end or we got it right in the end.
What a bunch of BS.Stop selling that crap because we are gonna watch anyway. Just say it sucks and get some respect.

Remember back in the day when going to a bowl was an accomplishment. Now it is a disgrace if you don't make a bowl game.
It is time for a change in the post season.
Scrap some bowls and turning bowls like Holiday,Sun,Cotton into playoff bowls would be insane,but will NEVER happen. I think best case is gonna be a final 4 and that is still years away.

 

[TouchdownJesus]

The system is obviously horrible. I love the smaller conferences and want them to have a chance but that chance has to be a playoff for the most part.

If you are one of these teams and want a legit shot at a national title, you have to have the mindset of Pat Hill, which is to play anyone anywhere anytime...and actually do it.

Even looking at BYU's schedule this year. Its tough to reward them with a national title even if they run the table. But they will scream how they played Oklahoma and Florida State while teams in the SEC face the level of FSU on a weekly basis.

I think Division 1 should be 6-8 conferences and if your in one of them, you have an "equal" shot at the title and if you aren't, then you aren't even div 1. Maybe we'll let Notre Dame stay independent LOL....ROFL...

But an 8-team playoff would solve a lot of things and still keep a lot of tradition with the polls, etc.

 

[Missy]

Well well well gonna start out this season with alot to talk about Oaklahoma cant blame anyone but them selves:SIB