How the Coaches voted

A1Capper

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or how about Leach picking his boys 2nd at Texas Tech? You are correct papi, very biased.
 

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I found it interesting, but not surprising, that every coach that played both Oklahoma and Texas ranked OU #1, with two ranking Texas #5 and one with a #2 vote.
 

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Ok, last one, and this one tops them all.... Ty willingham picked Missouri #12,,, THEY LOST 4 GAMES FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! No wonder he didn't win a game this year, he has no clue!!!
 
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Well the coaches that UT 5th are simply just fucking idiots.

2 coaches actually put Penn St ahead of Texas.

:rolleyes:

These polls and the BCS as a whole are just a joke.

College football has actually become worse than figure skating....since we have about 10 'russian' judges.

Its all uneducated opinions, weird computer systms, politics, favoritism & grudges.
 

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I just can't figure out how anyone ranked Texas ahead of Texas Tech. That was settled on the field!
 

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This isnt news. he biases are all known and expected. Some of those votes have no other logical basis. When humans vote that should be expected. There is also a reason every computer is different - some dufus that never even played football thinks he has the secret formula. Heck you have a guy like Billingsley living in some shit town in Oklahoma sipping from his OU mug admittedly "tweaking" his system each week - and there is zero oversight of the computers. Every computer had Texas w a stronger SOS than OU - not even including the D2 game, yet OU ranked higher. Probably some logical explanation but nobody questions it. But all those same computers that put OU in the dance have Texas ranked higher than Florida. Ironic.

I dont say this as sour grapes, but rather to say it is what it is - whether it helps you or hurts you the system is crap. I have always said that once you lose its tough to bitch- of course dont tell that to Auburn. And it really makes no sense when you get left out by a team you beat with the same record, but these dumbasses did this as well in 1993 to Notre Dame and 2001 to Miami. People point out how absurd it is but they keep doing it anyway. So this isnt new.

I have no idea what the answer is- even a playoff would rely on this crap to decide who is in, how seeded, etc. And the only way there is ever a playoff is 8 teams, the winner of each BCS conference is in (never gonna get approved otherwise), and an exception for a non-BCS team (Utah) and a wildcard. So this year with an 8 team playoff there would - assuming Boise isnt in also - one spot for Texas Tech, Texas and Bama (assuming OU in) - so it's still a disaster.

Look who votes in the Harris Poll - some of these guys admittedly dont watch any games. There are rumors of Harris voters selling their votes. And how can coaches who generally watch NO games other than their own vote with any sense at all? Chizik and Dodge voted Texas No 1 which could arguably be justified - but lets face it they did it because of ties to Texas. All of Stoops's cronies vote for OU. Leach got his job thanks to his time at OU - he didnt vote how he did without an agenda. All the SEC guys vote Florida and keep Bama high. Funny thing is Mack Brown might have had the most credible vote - he didnt vote Texas No 1, but rather 2 behind Florida, which was the worst way he could have voted to improve Texas' chances. And he is getting chastised down here for not voting Texas No 1 to help his team.

Then you have the ESPN crowd trying to influence. I was a bit stunned to her Snot burger and Herbie cheering OU running up the score. But they cant question anything since ABC is stuck with the BCS for the next several years. Danielson said he wouldnt even watch the title game if Florida wasnt in - at least thats what I thought he said but it was hard to understand while he was chugging Tebow's schlong.

You have to come to this board to know that on body of work Florida was the least deserving team - nobody cares. I think they are the best team but what you do during the year needs to mean something. Only team to lose a home game, and to the weakest team. SEC more down than ever. Poor Tebow has a whole network smoking his pole because CBS wants to build up the SEC - the only thing it broadcasts. Let's face it - nobody involved cares about getting it right - it's all about agendas.

We should all hope for years like 2005 when there are 2 teams far and ahead of everyone so there isnt any controversy and nobody gets jobbed. If this year doesnt force a playoff - and it clearly wont - it just isnt going to happen.
 

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i said the same thing a week ago

why is fla getting a free pass into the game???

what did they do to get the invite of texas or usc???

they lost at home
lost to the worst opponent
played in a weaker conf than the big 12, but probably better than the pac-10
and started out lower ranked than sc

so how was fla automatically placed into the title game?????

never been a fan of an 8 team playoff as i have no interest in diluting the regular season to watch the 7-8-9-10 ranked teams debate who should get selected into a playoff (and in most years those teams are multiple loss crap teams). then watch an undefeated 13-0 squad be forced to beat a 3 loss team just to move on to the semi finals????? no thanks.

a 4 team playoff??? sure......keep the bcs + bowls as is but use the night game on jan 1st as one semi final and the next night the other semi final (rotated between rose-sugar-orange-fiesta).....the winners meet a week later (title game is already moved to jan 8th)
 

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Urban dumb ass Meyer took Mississippi 12th, what A JOKE.

What the hell are you talking about? Ole Miss is the 10th or 11th best team in the country now that the DL is healthy.
 

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What the hell are you talking about? Ole Miss is the 10th or 11th best team in the country now that the DL is healthy.

:mj07: :mj07: they lost to fuking South Carolina and Vandy at home!:142smilie
 

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Every computer had Texas w a stronger SOS than OU - not even including the D2 game, yet OU ranked higher.

I don't know where you get your info. but it is enormously incorrect. Out of the 4 computer rankings that I could find a SOS, 3 had OU with a higher SOS.

I dont say this as sour grapes, but rather to say it is what it is

Yes you do, you are a Texas fan, so don't act like you're impartial on the whole situation. To be fair, I don't blame you, there were 3 teams, each with an argument, but don't sit there and act objective to try to gain credibility. OU is thought by the majority to be the better team right now. This is what the system tries to do, get the two best teams to play for the national championship.

Funny thing is Mack Brown might have had the most credible vote

Perfectly said like a nice TEXAS fan! Doesn't a fan of every school think their coach votes perfectly.

I was a bit stunned to her Snot burger and Herbie cheering OU running up the score.

Here's goes another Texas fan using the running up the score excuse. Didn't Texas throw a 50yd touchdown pass with 5 mins left in the game against Mizzou? If the other team doesn't like it then stop them!

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I guess we'll just have to see how the NC game goes.:shrug:
 

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This isnt news. he biases are all known and expected. Some of those votes have no other logical basis. When humans vote that should be expected. There is also a reason every computer is different - some dufus that never even played football thinks he has the secret formula. Heck you have a guy like Billingsley living in some shit town in Oklahoma sipping from his OU mug admittedly "tweaking" his system each week - and there is zero oversight of the computers. Every computer had Texas w a stronger SOS than OU - not even including the D2 game, yet OU ranked higher. Probably some logical explanation but nobody questions it. But all those same computers that put OU in the dance have Texas ranked higher than Florida. Ironic.

I dont say this as sour grapes, but rather to say it is what it is - whether it helps you or hurts you the system is crap. I have always said that once you lose its tough to bitch- of course dont tell that to Auburn. And it really makes no sense when you get left out by a team you beat with the same record, but these dumbasses did this as well in 1993 to Notre Dame and 2001 to Miami. People point out how absurd it is but they keep doing it anyway. So this isnt new.

I have no idea what the answer is- even a playoff would rely on this crap to decide who is in, how seeded, etc. And the only way there is ever a playoff is 8 teams, the winner of each BCS conference is in (never gonna get approved otherwise), and an exception for a non-BCS team (Utah) and a wildcard. So this year with an 8 team playoff there would - assuming Boise isnt in also - one spot for Texas Tech, Texas and Bama (assuming OU in) - so it's still a disaster.

Look who votes in the Harris Poll - some of these guys admittedly dont watch any games. There are rumors of Harris voters selling their votes. And how can coaches who generally watch NO games other than their own vote with any sense at all? Chizik and Dodge voted Texas No 1 which could arguably be justified - but lets face it they did it because of ties to Texas. All of Stoops's cronies vote for OU. Leach got his job thanks to his time at OU - he didnt vote how he did without an agenda. All the SEC guys vote Florida and keep Bama high. Funny thing is Mack Brown might have had the most credible vote - he didnt vote Texas No 1, but rather 2 behind Florida, which was the worst way he could have voted to improve Texas' chances. And he is getting chastised down here for not voting Texas No 1 to help his team.

Then you have the ESPN crowd trying to influence. I was a bit stunned to her Snot burger and Herbie cheering OU running up the score. But they cant question anything since ABC is stuck with the BCS for the next several years. Danielson said he wouldnt even watch the title game if Florida wasnt in - at least thats what I thought he said but it was hard to understand while he was chugging Tebow's schlong.

You have to come to this board to know that on body of work Florida was the least deserving team - nobody cares. I think they are the best team but what you do during the year needs to mean something. Only team to lose a home game, and to the weakest team. SEC more down than ever. Poor Tebow has a whole network smoking his pole because CBS wants to build up the SEC - the only thing it broadcasts. Let's face it - nobody involved cares about getting it right - it's all about agendas.

We should all hope for years like 2005 when there are 2 teams far and ahead of everyone so there isnt any controversy and nobody gets jobbed. If this year doesnt force a playoff - and it clearly wont - it just isnt going to happen.

The system is a debacle. Those who have something to gain or lose shouldn't have a say. Neither should folks who don't study the game.

There should be a committee in football like there is for the NCAA hoops tournament. Make the membership as impartial as possible. Let them take into account all the factors, and make a decision as to who plays for the title (however that is decided).

One thing is certain, there will always be bitching, playoff or no playoff. The cry will simply be "we're number 8" instead of "we're number two".

Personally, I like the idea of a 4 team playoff after the bowls. Return to a 4 BCS game system, play em all on January 1st as they used to. Orange at 12:00, Rose at 3:30, Sugar at 7:00, Fiesta at 10:30. Leave the entire bowl system in place with the conference tie-ins. After it's over have a committee decide who the 4 are based on a season long resume including the bowls. Make the only prerequisite of being in the playoff that you have to have won your bowl game. Therefore you have no bowl rematches.

This year you'd potentially have:

Rose: USC vs Penn State
Sugar: Florida vs Texas
Fiesta: Alabama vs OU
Orange: VT vs Cinci

The winners of the Rose, Sugar and Fiesta would all obviously advance to the 4 team playoff. The committee would decide who the 4th is. Perhaps Utah if they won a lesser bowl game this year? In any case, the committee would decide and everyone would know the rules. Win your bowl game, or STFU.

Pick ONE site for the final four. If up north, make sure it's on field turf. No sloppy fields, but cold weather is OK. First game the weeknight that makes sense after the bowl games. Have the second game the Saturday night following This year, say Thursday the 8th and Saturday the 10th. Have the Title game a week before the Super Bowl at the same site as the final four.

There would still be pissing and moaning, but it would keep/improve the current bowl system and give us a more worthy champion.
 
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