Incognito banned for bullying

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Thoughts on a NFL lineman being banned for bullying. I know Richie is a dick, always has been always will be, but banned for name calling in the NFL, oh and having the guy give him $15,000 for a Vegas lineman trip, the guy didnt even go on.

I hate bullying of kids, but if this gets a guy banned then I dont know if there will be an Offensive line coach left out there. The coaches themselves bully all the time and name call.

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Tough to render a true opinion until the investigation is done. Making rookies for pay for lavish dinner tabs is an old tradition that many are guilty of in the league. The threats with racial slurs is something else though.


Does it need to be addressed, yes. However, I am a little amazed the amount of news it is garnering.

All the while the Colorado Avalanche are starting a goalie that is free on bail from some serious domestic abuse allegations and are allowing him to start. And hardly anyone is talking about that.
 
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hedman said:
Thoughts on a NFL lineman being banned for bullying. I know Richie is a dick, always has been always will be, but banned for name calling in the NFL, oh and having the guy give him $15,000 for a Vegas lineman trip, the guy didnt even go on.

I hate bullying of kids, but if this gets a guy banned then I dont know if there will be an Offensive line coach left out there. The coaches themselves bully all the time and name call.

Thoughts?
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I'm trying really hard to look at this through my own work history, but these people are not employees/coworkers in the traditional sense (obviously). The mentality is probably closer to that of the military. What's the best method to get the most of out of these physical freaks of nature? I think that the players (soldiers?) will put up with all sorts of shit as it relates to preparing for battle. So I think that coaches are probably not going to have to change their ways. The rest of us wouldn?t put up with that kind of shit in our workplaces either from our superiors or our coworkers. But I?m guessing football players expect a level of discipline and rough treatment in that regard.

But this is different because apparently the shit Martin was experiencing was not closely related to actual game-time performance. So imagine you are a superior in the military and two of your hired guns are at odds with each other. Do you get rid of the troublemaker or the one who maybe overreacted to the asshole. Tough call. Presumably whoever made the decision to suspend Richie his behavior was more at fault than Martin?s ?thin skin?. Could be a lot more to this than we have heard about, or it could just be a cover your ass situation wherein the decision was made by lawyers and HR-type to avoid a potential further embarrassment/distraction/lawsuit. I think that?s the real question. Was this a decision made by the coaches or by ownership.
 
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He went way over the line. We will know more soon. It is slowly coming out but the kid that left should have knocked his punk ass out.
 
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He went way over the line. We will know more soon. It is slowly coming out but the kid that left should have knocked his punk ass out.
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I agree he should have knocked him out, but where is the line? The N bomb? The old high school everyone leave when he sits down? The making him pay $15,000? The saying he is going to shit in his mouth? The saying his real mom is ugly?

All dick moves, all bullying, and embarrassingly all shit that goes on in every locker room in America. What made this so different, the fact that Martin cracked and went AWOL finally? The team had to do something, because it was a PR nightmare and Richie wouldnt stop, even going after Adam Scheffter, but I really dont know why this is so much different then when the Giants picked up Prince and put him in a cold tub of ice water and hazed him relentlessly for being a proud virgin. Because he has thicker skin it makes it ok?

Also, if there is a line, does the combination of things put you past it? Such as being called a pussy cocksucker multiple times? Does the line move with the skin of the victim?
 
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I'm not in an NFL locker room so I couldn't be able to put in perspective. But when you add all of these things up, it seems way over the top to me. Especially since this guy isn't even a rookie anymore. I can understand a little bit of this for the rookies but when someone is afraid to come to work, it's a problem.
 
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I'm not in an NFL locker room so I couldn't be able to put in perspective. But when you add all of these things up, it seems way over the top to me. Especially since this guy isn't even a rookie anymore. I can understand a little bit of this for the rookies but when someone is afraid to come to work, it's a problem.
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Agree completely and I just read about the death threats and threats to his family. Ugh!! Well, I guess one can play in the NFL with history of drug, performance enhancers, domestic violence, hell even killing a guy, no not you Uncle Ray Ray, Im looking at you Mr. Little, but the NFL will no longer stand for an outrageously over the top bullying of another player.
 
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Incognito yesterday called out espn s.i. fox sports everyone basically, telling them to post proof or shut up.

Well they have all started posting information and Incognito has deleted all his tweets, sounds like a typical bully coward type move.

It also seems to run in the family.

http://deadspin.com/is-richie-incognitos-dad-blasting-jonathan-martin-on-m-1457997230
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Hiding behind the anonymity of the internet in order to do and say things you wouldn't do offline is very stupid this day and age. Especially if you within a few degrees of separation from the spotlight.
 
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Here is an excerpt of a voice mail that Incognito left Martin....

"Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."

This type of message wasn't a 1 time thing....It was ongoing....

I will leave it up to each of you to decide if this is over the line.....
 
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Incognito should be banned from the NFL for life after reading the messages he left Martin, that is way over the line.
 
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just what the world needs more of..

the abomination of the English language and blatant disrespect for the existence of another human being..

carry on folks..with every passing day the character of the United States citizen is lowered to even lower gutter measures.

at some point the reeducation and re-instilling of morals and ethics must return to the arriving generation.

which of you 25-45 year olds is going to participate in this process..

the first step is knowing such behavior is unacceptable
 
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Richie's not the sharpest knife in the drawer..That's his biggest problem:eek:


 
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hedgehog said:
Incognito should be banned from the NFL for life after reading the messages he left Martin, that is way over the line.
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