I think Terps -11 will steam rolled Tar Heels at Chaple Hills like they did to Gtech and Duke? Any thoght or opinions thanks.
Terps 48 @ THeels 10
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Terps 48 @ THeels 10
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Maryland -11 @ North Carolina any thought???
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Really, really like MD to cover this #. They have been playing some great fb since early in the yr. UNC seems to get worse every week and the loss of Durant is huge. After the big comeback by VA 2 weeks ago and now losing Durant in a hutout loss this team might be ready to completely give up on the yr. However as a predominant underdog bettor my contrarian views are:
While UNC lost Durant I have seen too many times where the team steps up their play for a few games after losing one of their best players. Maybe that won't be enough to get w/in this # but it does concern me. I have seen countless times where the already inferior team is undermanned, injury riddled and plays well enough to cover/win. This team did beat ASU, which has been a much improved team this yr. Also I am not a big a fan of going against teams after they have been blown out and shut out. Now as bad as UNC has been playing they may bet blown out every week making it not so tough to bet against. However I thought UAB was a team I was going to bet against alot this yr and a while back they got shut out by UL-Lafeyette, yes that team from the Sunbelt conf. After that embarassment they went on to beat (very handily) Memphis. Again I know these are mostly psychological factors but they do concern me. Sorry to drag this on so long. Other than that I still think the MD train keeps rolling and covers.
While UNC lost Durant I have seen too many times where the team steps up their play for a few games after losing one of their best players. Maybe that won't be enough to get w/in this # but it does concern me. I have seen countless times where the already inferior team is undermanned, injury riddled and plays well enough to cover/win. This team did beat ASU, which has been a much improved team this yr. Also I am not a big a fan of going against teams after they have been blown out and shut out. Now as bad as UNC has been playing they may bet blown out every week making it not so tough to bet against. However I thought UAB was a team I was going to bet against alot this yr and a while back they got shut out by UL-Lafeyette, yes that team from the Sunbelt conf. After that embarassment they went on to beat (very handily) Memphis. Again I know these are mostly psychological factors but they do concern me. Sorry to drag this on so long. Other than that I still think the MD train keeps rolling and covers.
i'm always looking for a reason to play dd home dogs in the acc but i'm probably passing on this game. durant gone for heels may make them a little less likely to give up points with the offense on the field, but it takes away what little explosive scoring threat they had. and the terheel defense is in a shambles, with players at almost every position with either no experience or no athletic ability. here's the take of one of the carolina press corps after the wake game:
Reality - It appeared that reality had settled in with UNC coach John Bunting after Saturday's loss. The look on his face when he met with the media wasn't exactly relief, but perhaps a certain resignation that his team isn't very good, but had too many players seeing action that aren't either ready or aren't capable, and that they may not win again. Please note he never said this, but it appeared as if that was at least somewhat the case. He may refocus a bit now and begin to look more into the future with his personnel.
with a slightly different take, here's the writeup from the extra points site:
Carolina's lineups are taking more twists and turns these days than a John Grisham novel. Injuries in many cases and ineffective play in others have left John Bunting and staff to take drastic measures the last two weeks to try to jolt the Tar Heels out of the doldrums of their 2-6 season and 0-3 losing skid.
C.J. Stephens played quarterback for Darian Durant, who's out for the year with a broken thumb.
Mahlon Carey played his second game as a true freshman at tailback, subbing for Jacque Lewis and getting 11 carries.
Madison Hedgecock moved from fullback to defensive end last week to shore up a position decimated by injuries to starters Will Chapman and Issac Mooring and even reserve Jermicus Banks.
Clay Roberson started at weakside linebacker for Malcolm Stewart, who's played inconsistently.
Freshman Jeff Longhany started at strongside linebacker for Clarence Gaddy, who suffered a concussion last week, and Devllen Bullard, who's working to overcome some poor performances earlier in the year.
Offensive guard Jupiter Wilson was benched in favor of freshman Steven Bell.
Left offensive tackle Willie McNeill also had a concussion last week. Skip Seagraves moved from right to left tackle. Jeb Terry moved from right guard to right tackle. And true freshman Kyle Ralph was pulled out of his red-shirt year to play the entire game at right guard.
"Coach [Hal] Hunter sat me down on Monday, said they needed my help, asked if I wanted to come up and see what I can do, try to prove myself," Ralph said. "I said, 'Absolutely.'"
Hedgecock said he was also happy to do whatever was asked to help the team. "We have more depth at fullback and had some injuries at defensive end," he said, noting the improved play this fall of reserve fullbacks James Faison and James Gibson. "I'll play wherever they ask me to play."
Bunting saluted the spirit of Hedgecock and Ralph in trying to help the Tar Heels revive their season. Hedgecock will remain on defense for at least another week (though he will still run fullback with the goal-line offense), and Ralph will remain in the starting lineup.
"Madison Hedgecock, I love that kid," Bunting said. "What a tribute to him to have the courage in three days' time to go over there and try to get lined up right. It just goes to show you where we're at with that front and how much help we need both in numbers and quality to get that front improved. If anybody wants to play defensive line and linebacker at Carolina, it's a great time to come in and play."
Unfortunately, the personnel shuffling did little to spark the Tar Heels as Wake Forest dominated wire-to-wire for a 31-0 triumph at Groves Stadium in Winston-Salem.
The Deacons' vaunted rushing attack averaged 4.2 yards a clip but they also completed 11 of 17 passes for 213 yards and two TDs. The Tar Heels did not intercept a pass or sack the quarterback and had only one pass breakup. Meanwhile, the Tar Heels moved the ball well in the first half -- 212 yards and a 5.7-yard per snap average -- but they had two turnovers and six penalties and a missed short field goal in the first half. Wake Forest had a 17-0 lead at intermission and never looked back.
"What was very discouraging was that we did not score points in the first half when we were moving the football," Bunting said. "A penalty here, a penalty there. We had lots of penalties, and we turned the ball over. We should have had points in the first half, but we didn't get any.
"Defensively, the disappointment to me more than their running game is we just couldn't knock any balls down. At one point it seemed like they hit 10 to 12 balls in a row. That's disappointing. You've got to be able to compete with those guys to stop the pass. That was very, very frustrating."
Stephens had a reasonable outing for this first sustained stretch of real-time football since high school. He completed 17 of 27 passes and 225 yards, most of the yards coming on well-thrown balls on out patterns. Stephens demonstrated his tendency to misfire on longer throws, however. Hopefully that is a problem that will work itself out in time.
"C.J. had a great first half," Bunting said. "I'm just disappointed we couldn't have done more with it."
"We unfortunately have gotten in the habit of finding a way to stop ourselves," Stephens said. "I think throughout the year we haven't been stopped by other people on a consistent basis. We're just going to have to find a way to get out of this. Instead of almost getting the job done, we need to get the job done."
Terry refused to blame having a new quarterback and two new guards in the lineup as the reason for the Tar Heels stumbling offensively.
"I think we're really capable," he said. "We just make too many mistakes. I think we had four penalties the last drive of the first half. Two turnovers in the first half. It's not a matter of capability at all. It's a matter of self-discipline, doing what we're supposed to do."
Twice the Tar Heels were flagged for personal foul penalties in the first half, the second one coming against the offense as it nudged out to midfield late in the half.
"They know by being around me we will not win football games if we shoot ourselves in the foot and have foolish penalties, and we had a number of them today," Bunting said. "That's very undisciplined or selfish. I don't coach that."
A newspaper reporter at Bunting's post-game press conference asked, "Where does the season go from here?"
"I don't know where it goes from here," he answered. "All I know is, I battle. I've battled all my life for everything I've ever gotten. What we need is a win. So I'm going to try to battle back and get a win. The only thing on my mind right now is getting ready to battle next week."
Terry and defensive tackle Chase Page agree.
"We've got no option but to fight," Terry said. "Packing it in is not what this football team is all about."
"We're young. We're going to keep coming back, next week and next year, and we're going to keep fighting," Page said.
"We're going to get with Coach [Jeff] Conners in the off-season and are going to get bigger and stronger. That won't be an issue next year."
Despite the misery of Saturday's final score, Bunting and staff found some things to be encouraged about. The offensive line played "extremely well," Bunting said, adding that he plans to keep Saturday's starting unit intact until further notice. When McNeill is cleared to play, he'll share time behind Seagraves. Bunting said center Jason Brown had his best game of the year. He also says young defensive players like Page, Longhany, Kendall High and Doug Justice improved on Saturday. Carey played well, and receivers Sam Aiken and Chesley Borders and tight end Bobby Blizzard had good performances also. Safety Dexter Reid once again led the Tar Heels in tackling.
"We're building a foundation," Bunting said. "But I'm a results-oriented guy. We're not getting the results I want. But there are things happening that are very positive."
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Tailback Jacque Lewis suffered a hip-pointer Saturday and will be re-evaluated on Tuesday *** The shutout against Wake Forest was Carolina's first since 1966 (the Deacons won 3-0). The shutout against any opponent was the Tar Heels' first since their 1996 trip to Florida State, when they fell 13-0. *** The loss leaves Carolina needing to run the table to have a 6-6 record and qualify for one of six bowl tie-ins for the ACC. *** Wake Forest was called for three chop blocks Saturday. *** Defensive end Issac Mooring returned to the field for the first time in four weeks after breaking his hand. *** For much of the game Saturday, Carolina's front defensive seven had six freshmen or sophomores on the field -- Jocques Dumas, Tommy Davis, Page, High, Justice and Longhany. *** The Deacons entered the game with the nation's ninth-best rushing attack with 249 yards a game while the Tar Heels were 111th of 117 teams defending the run with 216 yards allowed. *** Carolina remains ninth in the ACC in QB sacks with only 10 this year. Wake Forest had been eighth with 12, but the Deacons notched four on Saturday. Two of those were by end Calvin Pace, who worked his way around Terry. It was an adjustment game for Terry at tackle, where often you have to pass defend against a quicker end in open space compared to working against a slower tackle in closer quarters.
Reality - It appeared that reality had settled in with UNC coach John Bunting after Saturday's loss. The look on his face when he met with the media wasn't exactly relief, but perhaps a certain resignation that his team isn't very good, but had too many players seeing action that aren't either ready or aren't capable, and that they may not win again. Please note he never said this, but it appeared as if that was at least somewhat the case. He may refocus a bit now and begin to look more into the future with his personnel.
with a slightly different take, here's the writeup from the extra points site:
Carolina's lineups are taking more twists and turns these days than a John Grisham novel. Injuries in many cases and ineffective play in others have left John Bunting and staff to take drastic measures the last two weeks to try to jolt the Tar Heels out of the doldrums of their 2-6 season and 0-3 losing skid.
C.J. Stephens played quarterback for Darian Durant, who's out for the year with a broken thumb.
Mahlon Carey played his second game as a true freshman at tailback, subbing for Jacque Lewis and getting 11 carries.
Madison Hedgecock moved from fullback to defensive end last week to shore up a position decimated by injuries to starters Will Chapman and Issac Mooring and even reserve Jermicus Banks.
Clay Roberson started at weakside linebacker for Malcolm Stewart, who's played inconsistently.
Freshman Jeff Longhany started at strongside linebacker for Clarence Gaddy, who suffered a concussion last week, and Devllen Bullard, who's working to overcome some poor performances earlier in the year.
Offensive guard Jupiter Wilson was benched in favor of freshman Steven Bell.
Left offensive tackle Willie McNeill also had a concussion last week. Skip Seagraves moved from right to left tackle. Jeb Terry moved from right guard to right tackle. And true freshman Kyle Ralph was pulled out of his red-shirt year to play the entire game at right guard.
"Coach [Hal] Hunter sat me down on Monday, said they needed my help, asked if I wanted to come up and see what I can do, try to prove myself," Ralph said. "I said, 'Absolutely.'"
Hedgecock said he was also happy to do whatever was asked to help the team. "We have more depth at fullback and had some injuries at defensive end," he said, noting the improved play this fall of reserve fullbacks James Faison and James Gibson. "I'll play wherever they ask me to play."
Bunting saluted the spirit of Hedgecock and Ralph in trying to help the Tar Heels revive their season. Hedgecock will remain on defense for at least another week (though he will still run fullback with the goal-line offense), and Ralph will remain in the starting lineup.
"Madison Hedgecock, I love that kid," Bunting said. "What a tribute to him to have the courage in three days' time to go over there and try to get lined up right. It just goes to show you where we're at with that front and how much help we need both in numbers and quality to get that front improved. If anybody wants to play defensive line and linebacker at Carolina, it's a great time to come in and play."
Unfortunately, the personnel shuffling did little to spark the Tar Heels as Wake Forest dominated wire-to-wire for a 31-0 triumph at Groves Stadium in Winston-Salem.
The Deacons' vaunted rushing attack averaged 4.2 yards a clip but they also completed 11 of 17 passes for 213 yards and two TDs. The Tar Heels did not intercept a pass or sack the quarterback and had only one pass breakup. Meanwhile, the Tar Heels moved the ball well in the first half -- 212 yards and a 5.7-yard per snap average -- but they had two turnovers and six penalties and a missed short field goal in the first half. Wake Forest had a 17-0 lead at intermission and never looked back.
"What was very discouraging was that we did not score points in the first half when we were moving the football," Bunting said. "A penalty here, a penalty there. We had lots of penalties, and we turned the ball over. We should have had points in the first half, but we didn't get any.
"Defensively, the disappointment to me more than their running game is we just couldn't knock any balls down. At one point it seemed like they hit 10 to 12 balls in a row. That's disappointing. You've got to be able to compete with those guys to stop the pass. That was very, very frustrating."
Stephens had a reasonable outing for this first sustained stretch of real-time football since high school. He completed 17 of 27 passes and 225 yards, most of the yards coming on well-thrown balls on out patterns. Stephens demonstrated his tendency to misfire on longer throws, however. Hopefully that is a problem that will work itself out in time.
"C.J. had a great first half," Bunting said. "I'm just disappointed we couldn't have done more with it."
"We unfortunately have gotten in the habit of finding a way to stop ourselves," Stephens said. "I think throughout the year we haven't been stopped by other people on a consistent basis. We're just going to have to find a way to get out of this. Instead of almost getting the job done, we need to get the job done."
Terry refused to blame having a new quarterback and two new guards in the lineup as the reason for the Tar Heels stumbling offensively.
"I think we're really capable," he said. "We just make too many mistakes. I think we had four penalties the last drive of the first half. Two turnovers in the first half. It's not a matter of capability at all. It's a matter of self-discipline, doing what we're supposed to do."
Twice the Tar Heels were flagged for personal foul penalties in the first half, the second one coming against the offense as it nudged out to midfield late in the half.
"They know by being around me we will not win football games if we shoot ourselves in the foot and have foolish penalties, and we had a number of them today," Bunting said. "That's very undisciplined or selfish. I don't coach that."
A newspaper reporter at Bunting's post-game press conference asked, "Where does the season go from here?"
"I don't know where it goes from here," he answered. "All I know is, I battle. I've battled all my life for everything I've ever gotten. What we need is a win. So I'm going to try to battle back and get a win. The only thing on my mind right now is getting ready to battle next week."
Terry and defensive tackle Chase Page agree.
"We've got no option but to fight," Terry said. "Packing it in is not what this football team is all about."
"We're young. We're going to keep coming back, next week and next year, and we're going to keep fighting," Page said.
"We're going to get with Coach [Jeff] Conners in the off-season and are going to get bigger and stronger. That won't be an issue next year."
Despite the misery of Saturday's final score, Bunting and staff found some things to be encouraged about. The offensive line played "extremely well," Bunting said, adding that he plans to keep Saturday's starting unit intact until further notice. When McNeill is cleared to play, he'll share time behind Seagraves. Bunting said center Jason Brown had his best game of the year. He also says young defensive players like Page, Longhany, Kendall High and Doug Justice improved on Saturday. Carey played well, and receivers Sam Aiken and Chesley Borders and tight end Bobby Blizzard had good performances also. Safety Dexter Reid once again led the Tar Heels in tackling.
"We're building a foundation," Bunting said. "But I'm a results-oriented guy. We're not getting the results I want. But there are things happening that are very positive."
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Tailback Jacque Lewis suffered a hip-pointer Saturday and will be re-evaluated on Tuesday *** The shutout against Wake Forest was Carolina's first since 1966 (the Deacons won 3-0). The shutout against any opponent was the Tar Heels' first since their 1996 trip to Florida State, when they fell 13-0. *** The loss leaves Carolina needing to run the table to have a 6-6 record and qualify for one of six bowl tie-ins for the ACC. *** Wake Forest was called for three chop blocks Saturday. *** Defensive end Issac Mooring returned to the field for the first time in four weeks after breaking his hand. *** For much of the game Saturday, Carolina's front defensive seven had six freshmen or sophomores on the field -- Jocques Dumas, Tommy Davis, Page, High, Justice and Longhany. *** The Deacons entered the game with the nation's ninth-best rushing attack with 249 yards a game while the Tar Heels were 111th of 117 teams defending the run with 216 yards allowed. *** Carolina remains ninth in the ACC in QB sacks with only 10 this year. Wake Forest had been eighth with 12, but the Deacons notched four on Saturday. Two of those were by end Calvin Pace, who worked his way around Terry. It was an adjustment game for Terry at tackle, where often you have to pass defend against a quicker end in open space compared to working against a slower tackle in closer quarters.
I like MD. They have running the ball better every game. broke out the option against Duke with there former second string QB (harrison) who shifted to receiver this year, Fridge is starting to break out wrinkles.
One reason I am leary, MD has NC ST next week at home. Could be a look ahead game. Then they travel to Clemson and VA before finishing at home against Wake. Longest, toughest stretch of the season.
Final conclusion would be to lay off.
One reason I am leary, MD has NC ST next week at home. Could be a look ahead game. Then they travel to Clemson and VA before finishing at home against Wake. Longest, toughest stretch of the season.
Final conclusion would be to lay off.
Md -9(-11) @ NORTH CAROLINA
Maryland playing like their hair's on fire.
NORTH CAROLINA clueless.
Game opens at -9
A full point below a key number?
Who's kiddin' who?
Maryland playing like their hair's on fire.
NORTH CAROLINA clueless.
Game opens at -9
A full point below a key number?
Who's kiddin' who?
I don't trust Maryland........... North Carolina being as bad as we've seen..has in the past, at home, keeping games close.....have not decided yet....really looking hard at Colorado and Nebraska...an upset is in the air one of these teams could be ready to upset one if not both.........Oklahoma is coming off a bye..always wary of a bye...Alabama....showed they are vulnable....Texas broke down at with Oklahoma State.....question is ...nebraska better than Okla.State...think about it
I heard that Ralph Fridgen is undefeated against the spread if he wins the game straight up. Can someone back me up on this ?
You, sir (insert Ed McMahon voice) are correct!
Big Ralph has been a phenom against the spread, covering every game other than FSU both years, UF last year and Notre Dame this year. Theyve covered every single other time! IMO, he's the best coach in the country, and I've been riding the Terps on a weekly basis .... until the linemakers give them respect they'll be a solid bet...
and last week vs. Duke was as close to a L*CK as it gets
BUT ...
Maryland is coming off the Duke game very banged up. They lost DT Feldheim for the year, got banged up on the OL, all three RBs are banged up. A few other guys are hurting too. Meanwhile, UNC is coming off another embarassing loss. Maybe they've given up, but as Buddy pointed out in a manor that only he can, this line stinks to high hell.
Injuries + fishy line = I won't touch it. But as you said, Ralph has been a cover machine, so who knows, maybe the Terps come out and get another rout under their belt. WHat the hel do I know?:moon:
May wanna look at FSU - 10 over Wake. Should be a rout.
That wasn't a problem last year before the FSU game.
However, use some caution in view of the injuries mentioned by Jeff. I would also point out that C.J. threw the ball very well in his first start. But UNC can't stop the run, and that's a major problem when you're playing Maryland, even if the OL is banged up.
it plain motley
it plain motley
Im all over the Terps like I was last week, this is definitley a Motley OUTLAW play !
3-0 on motley outlaws!
-11 what a joke...............35 -10 blowout!
it plain motley
Im all over the Terps like I was last week, this is definitley a Motley OUTLAW play !
3-0 on motley outlaws!
-11 what a joke...............35 -10 blowout!
Shapes up like a blow out on the surface, but I'm telling you, you may wanna tread lightly. MD OL is so banged up I heard they have given a TE time at C this week. They are hurting right now healthwise and if they go up big enough there may be some scrubs out there in the 2H.
Now, I would never take UNC in this game, and MD should win without too much trouble. Just saying there is a reason its not 14 or more.
Now, I would never take UNC in this game, and MD should win without too much trouble. Just saying there is a reason its not 14 or more.
