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POSTED 12:15 p.m. EDT, June 25, 2006

WEIS, IRISH FLIRTING WITH DISASTER?

A league source with intimate knowledge of the applicable NCAA regulations tells us that Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis might have rendered quarterback Brady Quinn and other incoming seniors ineligible if, as we previously have reported, Weis has directed the seniors with designs on pro football to pick their agents before the start of the 2006 season.

Rule 12.3.1 of the NCAA bylaws states that "[a]n individual shall be ineligible for participation in an intercollegiate sport if he or she ever has agreed (orally or in writing) to be represented by an agent for the purpose of marketing his or her athletics ability or reputation in that sport." Rule 12.3.1.1 elaborates on the general principle set forth in Rule 12.3.1: "An individual shall be ineligible per Bylaw 12.3.1 if he or she enters into a verbal or written agreement with an agent for representation in future professional sports negotiations that are to take place after the individual has completed his or her eligibility in that sport." A screen shot of the relevant page from the on-line NCAA manual appears below.



So what does it all mean? If Quinn or any other of his teammates actually pick a football agent before the completion of their eligibility, their eligibility might be completed far sooner than they realized.

The key is that eligibility evaporates per Rule 12.3.1.1 even if there's only a verbal agreement between, for example, Quinn and agent Don Yee that Yee will represent Quinn, and that a written agreement for the representation will be signed later. Although it might be difficult for the NCAA to prove that there's a violation if Quinn and Yee mutually agree to claim that there was no agreement, the fact that Quinn is going through the process of interviewing agents and narrowing the field before his final season of college ball is strong circumstantial evidence of an intention to pick his agent while still otherwise eligible. The fact that Yee and others are participating in the process is likewise circumstantial evidence of an implicit agreement that they'll agree to represent Quinn, if picked to do so.

The broader question is whether the NCAA will dare to do anything that might result in killing the goose that lays beneath the golden dome. Our guess? The powers-that-be will stick their heads in the sand on this one, content in spewing the party line that no final selections have been made by any of the Notre Dame seniors.

Still, it's a risk that Weis would have been wise not to take, in light of the plain language of the relevant bylaws (unless, of course, he got advance approval from the NCAA that it's okay to tell his guys to pick their agents if they merely don't tell the agents they've been picked).

And what does Weis really gain by forcing the players to pick agents now? Although some league insiders think it's a brilliant strategy for minimizing distractions, it's also a possible means for fomenting resentment from players who would have preferred not to be rushed. Many factors still need to be determined, and an agent who looks to be the right choice in June might not ultimately be a player's best bet come January.

As one league insider told us on Sunday, "Weis isn't doing the kids any favors by sheltering them. He instead should be educating them so that they can make good decisions at the right time."

Indeed, the only college players who talk to agents during the seasons are the college players who want to. Really, why should Weis or any other coach tell the players that they can't use what little free time they have talking to potential agents?

Stay tuned. At a time when the media ripped ferociously into various scandals that emerged in April regarding USC, we figure that there's enough blood in the water to prompt a few of them to take a hard look at whether the efforts of Charlie Weis to minimize distractions have inadvertently created a big fat one.
 

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Follow up

Follow up

In another story sparked by recent reports originating right here regarding whether and to what extent Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis has told his seniors with NFL aspirations to pick agents before the start of the season, the South Bend Tribune reports that quarterback Brady Quinn has cut his list of potential representatives from 15 to six to "a few."

(We've previously heard that Quinn has cut his list a "a one" -- agent Don Yee.)

The overriding point to all of our reports on this topic is that the process of meeting with agents and narrowing the field months before the start of a player's senior season is risky, because it puts the player closer to the line of potential ineligibility. Obviously, no one from the Quinn camp will be dumb enough to say that they've settled on Yee, or that Yee has been given a wink-nod indication that he's the guy (so that, for example, he won't try to recruit another top-ten quarterback prospect for 2007).

Likewise, we don't expect Weis or anyone from Notre Dame to admit that players like Quinn were told to pick their agents now.

But what Weis and Notre Dame can't control are statements made to prospective NFL agents like "we're talking to you now because Coach Weis told us to pick our agents before the start of the season."

Of course, neither Notre Dame nor the Quinn camp will give any credence to the possibility that we might be onto something, since if we are onto something it creates a distraction even bigger than the distraction Weis was trying to avoid by telling the kids to get their agents picked before the season starts.

So instead we get attacked.

"Typical freaking Internet," said Notre Dame associate athletic director in charge of compliance Mike Karowski. "It's a joke."

Karowski took the "kill the messenger" thing a step farther, mocking us for relying upon the very kinds of NFL sources who are in position to hear from players that Weis has told them to pick their agents now. "My sources in the NFL," Karowski said. "Yeah, great, what sources? First of all your sources should be with the kid, the agent and the university. We're the ones who know what's going on."

But, as mentioned above, none of those sources can be relied upon to tell the truth if the truth were to trigger a finding that Quinn has lost his eligibility by selecting Yee to be his agent.

(And thanks to the reader who pointed out to us the possible slip committed by Karowski when speaking of "the kid, the agent, and the university." Karowski's quote implies that there's only one agent to talk to, which possibly implies that one agent has been chosen.)

Weis clearly has, at a minimum, encouraged Quinn to get a long head start on picking his agent. We hear that other players have been told to do the same thing. Whether they are doing so remains to be seen.

The fact is that Quinn's efforts, at a minimum, to get a long head start on picking his agent have prompted credible sources within the NFL agent community to conclude: (1) that the process is more widespread than Quinn; and (2) that Quinn already has picked Yee. Whether Notre Dame chooses to react to this reality by taking potshots at us for exposing it or by hiding under the bed and hoping nothing comes of it doesn't really matter to us.

Nevertheless, we figure that the whole "we're Notre Dame, so the NCAA won't mess with us" mentality made Weis and the athletic staff willing to let guys like Quinn take steps toward potential premature ineligibility -- and that guys like Karowski are reacting negatively because someone has dared to acknowledge the possibility that Emperor Charlie might be riding down the street butt-naked on a burro
 

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Just heard this on the radio

Just heard this on the radio

Listening to 1460 The Fan here in Columbus and a lead reporter out of S. Bend totally discounted this story as to having any truth to it at all
 
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