Obama wants to outlaw guns if elected to 2nd term

RAYMOND

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i do belive this to be true, the muslin piece of shit killing our country, and there alot of fool who don't see this:sadwave:
 

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Pathetic that you are this dumb. What less would you expect from the NRA than typical scare tactics?

your an asshole :sadwave: Put me on ignore if you hate me so bad

I am entitled to my opinion wise guy. I believe he is playing the middle to go far left if re-elected. His agenda from day one was to tear this country up from the inside. I do believe he was born in Mumbasa Kenya, his own Grandmother told all of us he was. :shrug:
 

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your an asshole :sadwave: Put me on ignore if you hate me so bad

I am entitled to my opinion wise guy. I believe he is playing the middle to go far left if re-elected. His agenda from day one was to tear this country up from the inside. I do believe he was born in Mumbasa Kenya, his own Grandmother told all of us he was. :shrug:

And she had to DIE to cover his tracks.

:SIB
 

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your an asshole :sadwave: Put me on ignore if you hate me so bad

I am entitled to my opinion wise guy. I believe he is playing the middle to go far left if re-elected. His agenda from day one was to tear this country up from the inside. I do believe he was born in Mumbasa Kenya, his own Grandmother told all of us he was. :shrug:

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OK Rush Savage

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Neo Cons are so easily upset when someone mentions taking their guns.

Its a load of politcal crap.
 

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While Murray's comments were broad, they seemed to play into the message of Republicans, who have been looking to trim government and have spent the last year in the House arguing that people need to wean themselves off of government help.

But at the same time, Murray criticized both parties for their partisan bickering.

"They spend all their time just trying to destroy the other guy, not to work together, but to humble and humiliate the other so that they can't have success.

"It's not working to serve anyone anymore," he added. "I don't want to sound like a Rotarian, but if you're not some sort of common good, and you're only servic[ing] your sort of partisan alliance, you're part of what's destructive, you're destroying something."

Murray was also asked about actor Clint Eastwood's "Halftime in America" Super Bowl advertisement for Chrysler. Murray said he had not see the ad, but said it sounds similar to his message of taking care of yourself and trying to help others.

"I think he's right. I think it's a very good message, and I don't know why anyone would try to politicize it," Murray said. "It really sounds like what I'm talking of, of taking your own personal responsibility, and when you do that,then you can work with other people."

When CNBC host Joe Kernen said Murray's comments seemed to hew to a scene out of the movie "Stripes," Murray laughed and said, "Thank you for relaxing me there."
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Murray is a comedian and he makes more sense out of politics than you full bred conservatives.

Get a grip . Think about things.

Cant you see why our country is failing and will continue to fail no matter who gets in office .

We got to get term limits, stop that campaign billions shit, kick out the corrupters and millionaires.
 

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California Taxpayers Fund Sleep Treatment For Death Row Inmates

San Quentin State Prison (Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)

SAN QUENTIN ? One out of every four Californians has no medical insurance. But $2 billion in taxpayer money is being spent each year to provide medical care to California?s prisoners.

Take the case of San Quentin prison. The state built a brand new $136 million hospital at the prison for some of the state?s worst offenders. But why were some inmates, including those on death row, being sent to outside hospitals for sleep studies?

Prison healthcare CEO Jackie Clark recently took on a tour of the state of the art facility.

?We have exam rooms, we have our primary care clinics, we also have lab service, physical therapy service,? Clark said.

None of this came easy. Health care at San Quentin used to be so bad that inmates filed a class-action lawsuit. In 2005, a three judge panel found the entire California prison healthcare system ?broken beyond repair? and ordered a federal receiver to take over and fix it.

Sam Johnson is serving life for first degree murder. He told CBS 5 things are much better now.

?Before we used to dread going to medical, but now when we come in they make us feel like humans,? he said.

He?s recovering from a weekend warrior injury to his knee. ?I had arthroscopic surgery on it three weeks ago,? he said.

So did inmate Isaiah Thompson. ?I tore it up playing football,? he admitted, grinning sheepishly.

Both prisoners were injured in the prison yard. But even though there?s a surgeon on staff, their surgeries were done at outside hospitals.

?This is not an acute care facility. We do what we can here and what we can?t, we refer out,? said Clark.

They?re referring out a lot. ?I actually went to Kentfield last week in Marin, it?s like a little outpatient clinic,? said David Cole. His medical emergency: A blister on his toe. As a diabetic, he could easily be treated inside.

So why does he go out for a blister? ?They do have a podiatrist here. I don?t know, I can?t tell you,? he said.

In fact there are 14 doctors and 100 nurses working at San Quentin, many earning six-figure salaries, for inmate treatment much of which is being done elsewhere.

It?s something that bothers Chuck Alexander, vice president of the California Correctional Peace Officers Association.

?Why can?t we have one of these medical personnel that we have hired for $2 billion, make a legitimate assessment right there in the prison, so we are not taking this guy out on his weekly joy ride,? he said.

Alexander hears stories like this from the guards every day. ?Routinely we get complaints about people being taken out for lancing of a boil, a couple of stitches for a cut,? he said. ?I recently heard of an inmate on death row that was taken out to participate in sleep apnea treatment.?


crew witnessed inmates from San Quentin Prison at Doctors Medical Center in San Pablo for a sleep study.

followed an unmarked corrections car from the prison, with a van of inmates in tow, across the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge. Half an hour later, the caravan was in the parking lot of Doctor?s Medical Center in San Pablo.

Three shackled prisoners lumbered out of the van into the darkness, followed by six guards, all headed into the sleep clinic. The next morning, before daybreak CBS 5 was there as they filed back into the van to head back to their cells.

has learned that last year alone, San Quentin sent 17 prisoners, including death row inmates, to sleep clinics.

?If that?s happening, it shouldn?t be,? said Clark Kelso. He is the federal receiver hired to fix the prison healthcare system. ?We still have work to do there, to tie down excessive referrals,? he said.

But Kelso defends the $136 million new hospital. ?I think it was a necessary use of taxpayer dollars,? he said.

Kelso said spending has been curbed, by setting up an HMO-like network for providers. ?We were paying about twice as much in many cases to send somebody out. So we are doing much better,? he said.

The private insurer Health Net runs the program. But when asked for a breakdown of claims he said, ?There?s a state statute that prohibits me from disclosing confidential trade secrets.?

That?s not sitting well with at least one lawmaker: ?To leave this area untouched and unknown I think has to raise concerns for all of us,? said Assemblyman Roger Dickinson (D-Sacramento).

Dickinson was behind a bill that would have forced Health Net to reveal its billings. It never passed. ?The argument made by the health insurance companies is that it would be a competitive disadvantage,? he said.

asked Kelso: What answer do you give to those millions who don?t have healthcare, but are paying taxes, and their taxes are going to these confined, sometimes condemned inmates?

He responded, ?We are providing care that is medically necessary. If you?re going to incarcerate this number of prisoners you have to be willing to pay for what you have to do to incarcerate, and providing healthcare is one of those things.?

Chuck Alexander disagrees. ?I think that people at home hearing a report like this should be concerned about how that $2 billion a year is being utilized.?

exposed inmates and their regular visits to the sleep clinic, the federal receiver sent an email that said things have changed. Starting next week, sleep studies will be conducted inside San Quentin?s new hospital.

Meanwhile these expenditures aren?t the end of it. An $800 million hospital is already under construction in Stockton, for long-term care and mental health prisoners. Also because of the federal lawsuit, another $2 billion has been set aside to medically upgrade other prisons. But a fight is on: the state wants the receiver out. The receiver wants to finish the job.

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Frustrated RN

Being an RN in the prison system, i must agree that most of the tax dollars are COMPLETELY WASTED. , Prisoners have much better healthcare than I do. We are mandated to meet with a prisoner and do triage within 24 hours- even if that prisoner puts in a sick call slip daily. and has no health issues, maybe they just want to leave their cell for a bit.
They refuse treatment (this is their right), wait until they get very sick and then demand treatment (this is also their right). Often times they are so ill by then we must send them out to higher levels of care. This is where the costs really add up- paying several guards overtime, a driver, the hospital fees. It?s at least ten grand each time we send someone out. We don?t want to do this but the prisoners are doing everything they can to build a lawsuit and we are constantly playing a game.
On my very first day a guard came to me and said, ?just know, the inmates have nothing better to do all day than think up ways to get over on us?. Couple that with a litigious society and prisoner advocates, this is the result.
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this is the kind of shit you should be worried about and trying to change before it comes to your state.

seriously

how fawked up is this.
 

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I've been hearing the "ban guns" crappo from the NRA for at least 40 years. I still have many guns, many thousands of rounds of ammo, and there are more stores which I can walk into and walk out with a gun than ever before.

Hell, ammo is so plentiful that Wal*Mart is selling it cheaper than it was ten years ago. And academy Sports will sell you a new 12 ga Mossberg pump for less than $200.

Fortunately for the NRA there are dummies like hedge who will send their money in any time they get their chains jerked.:mj07:
 
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Jeezus Christmas. Do you really fall for the same line of shit EVERY 4 years? Come on. The NRA comes out with this same line of crap about the Democratic candidate every time. Jeez.

Where are the sane Republican backers? Come on guys, please speak up! You know this is horseshit, help Hedgy see the light.
 

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If re-elected, Obama also wants to invade Canada. Once all Americans and Canadians are disarmed, I'm pretty sure he plans to kill all white people. :SIB
 

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Good manners dictate that I convey my most heartfelt congratulations to you for what you did to old Newt in your aggressive ad campaign. I mean, you guys really did him in. As we say in Louisiana, you made minced meat out of that boy.

You rounded up a bunch of Wall Street money and turned it over to the Willie Horton ad guy to destroy one of your own. You boys really crack me up (and I say boys because no females have openly expressed their membership -- as soon as someone steps forward I will be sure to address you appropriately). I don't think we Democrats could come up with something quite so clever. You have accomplished quite a feat.


James CarvilleThe problem that you have now is not Newt. It may take a few months, but you will get him under control. Your in-house network -- the boys over at Fox (I'm sorry, Greta, I meant the people over at Fox) -- thought they had wired Newt up to go positive, but they found out it is difficult to control a Tulane man. Don't worry, he just got sucker punched. Soon enough he and all of his "baggage" will be sent packing. Newt is fighting now, but he will come around as I am sure the Koch brothers are in need of a good historian. Get my drift? Newt's post-primary employment is the kind of thing that needs to be discussed in quiet rooms.

You know how it goes, you squish one gnat and you gotta deal with another. Your latest nuisance comes in the form of an anti-contraception activist and 18-point loser, Rick Santorum. I'm not here to tell you how to do your job, but you ought to get your hands on a copy of Ricky boy's book. He's really hung up on birth control pills, huh? Not to mention, he seems to be pretty down on women having jobs outside of the home. That didn't play out too well in Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania. I highly doubt that he will do well in Pontiac or Phoenix. Also, you should look into that little cyberschooling arrangement he pulled off. But I've said enough. I know you don't need my help in disposing of this loser.



Jon Voight on Mitt Romney The problem you have now is the same problem you've had all along. It's the Mittster -- and it's a big problem. He can't seem to go 72 hours without blowing himself up again. The commentariat will not stop talking about the Mittster's comment on poor people and how it may drive away independents.

Come on fellas, we all know what will happen here: Those old Democrats will take that remark and use it the last week of the campaign to drive up "urban turnout." Here's to hoping poor people don't vote. Come to think of it, thanks to the Republican-created financial crisis, there are a lot more poor people in rural and suburban America causing problems for you. In fact, you boys created a slew of poor people, didn't you? But we will get back to that in late October.

Frankly, y'all are going to have a dickens of a time figuring out how to deal with the Hispanic vote. Karl Rove, you and 43 worked hard to be inclusive on immigration reform, and now the Mittster has the most idiotic and extreme position on it. My sources tell me that even Governor Jeb is ticked at the Mittster.

Because, after all, you know those dirty old Democrats will take your position and use it against you. I guess that's just what modern politics has become, people running against a stated position. Remember the good ole Willie Horton days when politics was clean and fun? However, you shouldn't worry yourselves too much about the Mittster's current immigration imbecility. Clearly, it can't be hard to get him to change his mind.

But be forewarned, I will probably go on CNN and run my mouth, talking about the 782nd time Willard has changed his position. (781, 782, who's counting after 363?) Just call me a washed-up old partisan Democrat and forget about trying to defend him. You can't.

So guys, this is where you are. You are going to nominate a politically detached candidate who speaks French, has Swiss bank accounts, lives in Massachusetts, went to Harvard, whose daddy was born in Mexico. Way to go! I'll check back with you boys after Mardi Gras. In the meantime, laissez les bons temps rouler! (It's French. Ask the Mittster to translate.)

Btw: (That's how young people do P.S. -- thought I would give you a heads-up) Was I the only person who noticed your turnout collapsed in Florida, Nevada, Colorado, Minnesota, Missouri and everywhere else? You better get Dick Armey to raise a bunch of polluter money and stoke up those tea partiers.

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I can't make this shit up if I tried, he is playing the middle right now to go far left if re-elected :facepalm:

You are correct that YOU can't make it up. But you are a pretty decent parrot of those that do make it up.
 

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Pssst... You didn't hear it from me but I also heard that in Obama's 2nd term, he plans to convert all public schools to Madrasas, make the Koran required reading and implement Sharia Law. :0003
 

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I heard that Obama is gonna outlaw swagger and limit what you can spend on gifts for your kids to $349. ;)
 

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Hedgy this is another dumb thread.. If you hate Obama that is fine but this is just dumb NRA news. Been hearing this amongst my hunting friends for years. Only way to make a case for the agenda.
 
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