felt last sunday when the line came out at +30that it was a grossly inflated line. still feel the same way about the current 28.5/29.
ohio state in a major sandwich spot coming off texas and having a revenger with penn state up next.
but the tressel/dantonio angle is really tough to ignore.
not saying you can just blindly play a dog and hope that a coach doesnt run up on a former assistant in every single spot. its never that easy.
but tressel is conservative by nature and the bucks have much bigger fish to fry than cincinnati.
just not convinced tressel will run it up on a coach who has been with him going back to his youngstown state days and also the architect behind his national championship defense.
some excepts from this week:
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REPORTER: How much discussion do you have with Mark Dantonio off season and once the season starts?
COACH TRESSEL: Quite a bit. I talk with Mark a lot, bounce things off one another, talked with him as recently as the week of the Texas game, and I haven't talked to him this week, he's busy and I'm busy and I can't say hey, what are you going to -- what blitz are you using on third down or whatever. I have a lot of discussion with Mark.
REPORTER: What was the nature of your discussions the week of the Texas game, can you say?
COACH TRESSEL: I can't remember. I don't know.
REPORTER: Is this a hard game to coach in, in that regard, coaching against somebody --
COACH TRESSEL: Oh, absolutely. I remember his first game at Cincinnati and you looked across the side line and there was Jeff Uhlenhake who had just been on our staff and Mark Staten and Mike Tressel, and who I'd coached at Ohio and who had coached with me at Youngstown, and Pat Narduzzi who had played for us at Youngstown and of course Dino, you felt like you grew up with him, so no question. Those are the kind of games you just like to get over with. You like to get focused on the task at hand. Where does Ohio State need to get better and forget about who we're playing. It is different, though, honestly.
REPORTER: Jim, you hear a lot about coaching trees where you have a coach who's helped assistants go on to other head jobs. Is that important to you to help your assistants go on to that next level? What does that mean to you as a coach?
COACH TRESSEL: I think there are a couple things. One, you appreciate the timing and effort and you would only understand how much time and effort a staff member gives if you've lived it. They're there night and day. They sacrifice their family time, they're out there trying to help you be successful and back at Youngstown, I'm sure Mark Dantonio's salary back at Youngstown when we were there was frightening, but yet he was working like crazy. You appreciate that. So you hope that probably for two reasons, one, honorable, and maybe one selfish, honorably, you hope that guys that have been good to you and helped you and helped your players and all that in your program get their what is due, and selfishly on the other hand, they don't get jobs like that unless we're successful. So if they're the kind of guys that can help you be successful and they're up for jobs like that, it's only because we've done well, so we've had some good fortune with Mark and then Mark Snyder and a couple guys going on to the NFL. But, no, that's important.
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...... They talk about once a week and know each other about as well as two opposing coaches can, which means that when the Bearcats line up against the Buckeyes Saturday afternoon at Ohio Stadium, there won't be many secrets between them.
But there will be plenty of respect.
"Coach Tress is an outstanding friend, not just to myself, but to our entire family," Dantonio said. "He is a role model for me in a lot of ways.
"Ten years of my life I've spent around him. He's had a tremendous impact on me as a person. I think his values are in place. I try to emulate a lot of those things in how I treat people as an individual."
Dantonio, who grew up in Zanesville, Ohio, had his eye on the UC job for some time before it became available in 2003.
He believed that, with its upcoming Big East Conference affiliation, its proximity to an abundance of Ohio high school talent and the promise of sparkling new facilities, the Bearcats program had great potential.
Before pursuing the position, he sought Tressel's advice. Tressel told him to go for it, even though he knew he would lose a top-notch defensive coordinator, because he thought Dantonio had earned the chance to become a head coach.
"You would only understand how much time and effort a staff member gives you if you lived it," Tressel said. "They're there night and day. They sacrifice their family time. Back at Youngstown, I'm sure Mark Dantonio's salary when we were there was frightening, and yet he was working like crazy."
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going to make a play on cincinnati (+29) and might go so far as to add a little more at halftime if ohio state blows the 1h wide open. if cincy plays a good 1h, which is entirely possible, ill sit tight.
really feel like this has 34-14 or 37-14 written all over it.
alright tressel, dont run it up on a former penguin :nono: :nono:
ohio state in a major sandwich spot coming off texas and having a revenger with penn state up next.
but the tressel/dantonio angle is really tough to ignore.
not saying you can just blindly play a dog and hope that a coach doesnt run up on a former assistant in every single spot. its never that easy.
but tressel is conservative by nature and the bucks have much bigger fish to fry than cincinnati.
just not convinced tressel will run it up on a coach who has been with him going back to his youngstown state days and also the architect behind his national championship defense.
some excepts from this week:
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REPORTER: How much discussion do you have with Mark Dantonio off season and once the season starts?
COACH TRESSEL: Quite a bit. I talk with Mark a lot, bounce things off one another, talked with him as recently as the week of the Texas game, and I haven't talked to him this week, he's busy and I'm busy and I can't say hey, what are you going to -- what blitz are you using on third down or whatever. I have a lot of discussion with Mark.
REPORTER: What was the nature of your discussions the week of the Texas game, can you say?
COACH TRESSEL: I can't remember. I don't know.
REPORTER: Is this a hard game to coach in, in that regard, coaching against somebody --
COACH TRESSEL: Oh, absolutely. I remember his first game at Cincinnati and you looked across the side line and there was Jeff Uhlenhake who had just been on our staff and Mark Staten and Mike Tressel, and who I'd coached at Ohio and who had coached with me at Youngstown, and Pat Narduzzi who had played for us at Youngstown and of course Dino, you felt like you grew up with him, so no question. Those are the kind of games you just like to get over with. You like to get focused on the task at hand. Where does Ohio State need to get better and forget about who we're playing. It is different, though, honestly.
REPORTER: Jim, you hear a lot about coaching trees where you have a coach who's helped assistants go on to other head jobs. Is that important to you to help your assistants go on to that next level? What does that mean to you as a coach?
COACH TRESSEL: I think there are a couple things. One, you appreciate the timing and effort and you would only understand how much time and effort a staff member gives if you've lived it. They're there night and day. They sacrifice their family time, they're out there trying to help you be successful and back at Youngstown, I'm sure Mark Dantonio's salary back at Youngstown when we were there was frightening, but yet he was working like crazy. You appreciate that. So you hope that probably for two reasons, one, honorable, and maybe one selfish, honorably, you hope that guys that have been good to you and helped you and helped your players and all that in your program get their what is due, and selfishly on the other hand, they don't get jobs like that unless we're successful. So if they're the kind of guys that can help you be successful and they're up for jobs like that, it's only because we've done well, so we've had some good fortune with Mark and then Mark Snyder and a couple guys going on to the NFL. But, no, that's important.
============
...... They talk about once a week and know each other about as well as two opposing coaches can, which means that when the Bearcats line up against the Buckeyes Saturday afternoon at Ohio Stadium, there won't be many secrets between them.
But there will be plenty of respect.
"Coach Tress is an outstanding friend, not just to myself, but to our entire family," Dantonio said. "He is a role model for me in a lot of ways.
"Ten years of my life I've spent around him. He's had a tremendous impact on me as a person. I think his values are in place. I try to emulate a lot of those things in how I treat people as an individual."
Dantonio, who grew up in Zanesville, Ohio, had his eye on the UC job for some time before it became available in 2003.
He believed that, with its upcoming Big East Conference affiliation, its proximity to an abundance of Ohio high school talent and the promise of sparkling new facilities, the Bearcats program had great potential.
Before pursuing the position, he sought Tressel's advice. Tressel told him to go for it, even though he knew he would lose a top-notch defensive coordinator, because he thought Dantonio had earned the chance to become a head coach.
"You would only understand how much time and effort a staff member gives you if you lived it," Tressel said. "They're there night and day. They sacrifice their family time. Back at Youngstown, I'm sure Mark Dantonio's salary when we were there was frightening, and yet he was working like crazy."
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going to make a play on cincinnati (+29) and might go so far as to add a little more at halftime if ohio state blows the 1h wide open. if cincy plays a good 1h, which is entirely possible, ill sit tight.
really feel like this has 34-14 or 37-14 written all over it.
alright tressel, dont run it up on a former penguin :nono: :nono:
