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What is the worst final hand you could have and it still be the nuts?

I've heard this one before but can't think of it....at least in this context. I want to say it involves a Q, but I may be way off and thinking of something else.



Slansky had a great trivia/thinking scenario a few years back which made me think:

you are playing a person. You each have one million dollars. You can see each others cards. Each hand costs one dollar to play. you have one move only...all in or fold. If you go all in, no matter what, the other person calls you regardless of their hand holding....what scenario are you waiting for before moving in?
 
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What is the worst final hand you could have and it still be the nuts?


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Slansky had a great trivia/thinking scenario a few years back which made me think:

you are playing a person. You each have one million dollars. You can see each others cards. Each hand costs one dollar to play. you have one move only...all in or fold. If you go all in, no matter what, the other person calls you regardless of their hand holding....what scenario are you waiting for before moving in?

I can think of a lot of scenarios that I would want to call and take my chances, but I think best case scenario is my opponent has two cards with 5 ranks of separation (EX 2-7) and I have a pair one rank higher than their highest card (pair of 8's in this example).
 

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I can think of a lot of scenarios that I would want to call and take my chances, but I think best case scenario is my opponent has two cards with 5 ranks of separation (EX 2-7) and I have a pair one rank higher than their highest card (pair of 8's in this example).

no.....

but you're thinking isn't that flawed. we are waiting for one perfect scenario. your's listed is fine and one we would go with in the real world 100 percent of the time, but there is a better one for this where you can wait hundreds of thousands of hands for this perfect one.
 

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no.....

but you're thinking isn't that flawed. we are waiting for one perfect scenario. your's listed is fine and one we would go with in the real world 100 percent of the time, but there is a better one for this where you can wait hundreds of thousands of hands for this perfect one.

OK, I have to give it some thought then. I'm not sure what is better than an over-pair to two under-cards where I have eliminated most of his straight possibilities.
 

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I've heard this one before but can't think of it....at least in this context. I want to say it involves a Q, but I may be way off and thinking of something else.



Slansky had a great trivia/thinking scenario a few years back which made me think:

you are playing a person. You each have one million dollars. You can see each others cards. Each hand costs one dollar to play. you have one move only...all in or fold. If you go all in, no matter what, the other person calls you regardless of their hand holding....what scenario are you waiting for before moving in?

pair over smaller pair with suits the same & SMALLER pr 1 spot under yours :shrug:
 

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I can think of a lot of scenarios that I would want to call and take my chances, but I think best case scenario is my opponent has two cards with 5 ranks of separation (EX 2-7) and I have a pair one rank higher than their highest card (pair of 8's in this example).

it would also help if your over pair were also the same suit as the opponent.

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A(s) A(d)
7(s) 2(d)
Win : 88.74%
Tie : 0.48%



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8(s) 8(d)
7(s) 2(d)
Win : 89.06%
Tie : 1.02%

So now it becomes how long do you have to wait at $1 a hand to have
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After you win that hand you go all in every hand assuming he is severely short stacked after the loss
 

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it would also help if your over pair were also the same suit as the opponent.

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2.png
7.png


A(s) A(d)
7(s) 2(d)
Win : 88.74%
Tie : 0.48%



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2.png
7.png


8(s) 8(d)
7(s) 2(d)
Win : 89.06%
Tie : 1.02%

So now it becomes how long do you have to wait at $1 a hand to have
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After you win that hand you go all in every hand assuming he is severely short stacked after the loss

getting warmer but not there yet....on the right path
 

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How about I have a large pair with my opponent having one of my cards plus a deuce where the deuce is suited the same as one of my cards.

Got the odds on that Josh?
 
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