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another thread, on why I prepare for bad JuJu !

Breakdown: Three Tons of Food Looted From Grocery Stores In Spain As Millions Struggle


As the economic and financial systems of the world rapidly approach the real possibility of total collapse, signs of what we can expect on a mass scale in the near future are beginning to appear throughout Europe.


In Spain, a country that just a few years ago was heralded as a shining example of real estate entrepreneurship, international tourism and a rising middle class, the situation is so bad that many are unable to meet the most basic necessities for life.


Social safety nets across the continent are visibly under stress and breaking down, so much so that unemployed Spaniards have begun raiding supermarkets in order to put food on the table.



As recently as last month the people of Cadiz and Sevilla, which have a reported unemployment rate of 32%, joined together to loot local grocery stores of three tons of food - some of which was distributed to local food banks:


<small>In Spanish with English subtitles:</small>


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Fernando Ferfal Aguirre, author of Surviving the Economic Collapse <sup>[1]</sup>, was in Argentina in the early 2000′s when the country underwent a hyperinflationary currency meltdown, and says that these acts of desperation are a carbon copy of what he witnessed in his own country and should be expected as the economic crisis accelerates:​
To be fair they aren?t taking booze and big screen TVs, but taking what isn?t yours is still under the same principle. Would you do any different if you couldn?t put food on the table and spent months unemployed?
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Just a few years ago many Spaniards would joke saying that thanks to the new immigration wave everyone in Spain could afford to have a ?Sudaca? as a maid. Sudaca is a derogatory term similar to wetbacks, commonly used in Spain referring to South Americans. This is pretty sad given that these ?sudacas? are children and grandchildren of those same Spaniards that left to SA because of the Spanish Civil war. Now, its obvious that they are suffering many of the miseries their ?Sudaca? brothers went through in the past.

Spaniards eating out of garbage bins, many of them senior citizens, have become a common sight in Spain and in other European countries where they have emigrated to looking for work themselves.​
In the following videos via The Modern Survivalist <sup>[2]</sup> and Prepper Website <sup>[3]</sup>, we can see what happens to civilized societies when there is no food <sup>[4]</sup> on grocery store shelves or it?s so expensive that it becomes unaffordable for the majority of the population:​

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This morning we learned that 46.7 million Americans ? a new record ? are receiving government nutritional food assistance benefits, so the troubles we?re seeing in Spain, Greece and other European countries are not just limited to the other side of the ocean. They are happening right here at home.


The only reason stores in the United States are not yet being looted like those in Spain is that our social safety nets are still able to support the basic needs of most of the population. But as prices continue to rise, more jobs are lost, and record numbers of people join the ranks of the already 100 million receiving some form of government welfare <sup>[5]</sup>, the breaking point is quickly approaching.


In Spain, just a few short years ago people were living the high life. Expensive homes, expensive cars, luxury vacations and dining, ever-expanding credit limits, and not a worry in the world. Does that sound familiar?


Those same people who would have laughed in your face five years ago had you told them the economy was going to collapse and their country would be facing a massive debt default that would leave the majority of their population in poverty ? those same people are rumaging through garbage cans in the hopes they can find some bread, rice and vegetables to put on their dinner tables.


This is reality.


Resources: Modern Survivalist <sup>[2]</sup>, Prepper Website <sup>[3]</sup>, Ready Nutrition <sup>[6]</sup>
 

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Let the usual suspects, you know who you are !

The MYOPIC SHEEP ! launch their barrage of insults,
you have nothing ! You attempt to make me look like a conspiracy nut, nice effort, In Obama's World at least you will get an award for the effort, no matter how fruitless it is !


In Greece, It's The Police Vs The Riot Police


As unemployment (broad and youth) goes from the sublime to the ridiculous in the troubled nation, Reuters is reporting that tensions are rising - even among the Police themselves.


"They make us fight our own brothers," one riot-policeman urged with regard the Greek police protesting austerity cuts and preventing riot-police from leaving to secure other demonstrations this weekend.


The government plans to slash police pay in a new round of spending cuts worth nearly EUR12bn over the next two years, which the police, firefghter, and coast guards will be prtesting later today in Athens. How soon before TROIKA demands 8 days a week and 99% taxation - as the hair-trigger on the gun they are holding to their own head becomes more and more sensitive.


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Reuters: Greek policemen, and members of police unions push riot police during scuffles outside a riot police facility in Athens, September 6, 2012


But,


It will never happen here :lol:
 

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C'mon, Lumi.

It can't be that bad....

Draghi saved the eurozone by offering unlimited and sterilized sovereign debt purchases.

Yeah! Everyone is saved. They have solved the debt crisis with more debt from an ECB that gets it's money from the broke countries it will save.

It all makes perfect sense!!!

Unlimited and sterilized? Really?

Mr. Draghi - I will call that bluff.

I closed my short gold positions at a loss and have gone short the Euro, the CAC 40 and a few select European banks.

No buy hold or sell recommendations but I give you 3-4 months, Mr Draghi, until you are in hot water once again.
 

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Bullets, Beans and Band-aids

Electrical Fences, Tiger Traps, Night Vision Security Cameras, Large Dogs, Armed Security to keep the likes of...... OUT !

The list is too long to list
 

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What are the MiliPolice Planning On Doing With These Heavily Armored Vehicles?

What are the MiliPolice Planning On Doing With These Heavily Armored Vehicles?

What are the MiliPolice Planning On Doing With These Heavily Armored Vehicles?

With a massive biometric FBI surveillance system going live across the United States in recent weeks, tens of thousands of drones to be flying over American skies within just a few years, over 1 billion rounds of ammunition being acquired by non-military government agencies, and host of laws and executive orders outlining military and police emergency response plans to lock down the United States, it isn?t much of a stretch to suggest that our government is preparing for something that aims to fundamentally transform America as we know it today.

New evidence for a coming lock-down of America is presented to the public by citizen journalists and alternative media on an almost weekly basis, which suggests that whatever is being planned is on a much more accelerated schedule now than ever before.

The latest, from alternative news hub Rense.com, indicates that Department of Homeland Security is expecting significant push-back in the very near future, which explains why they would need some 2,500 heavily armored vehicles with DHS Police/Rescue logos:

What could they need equipment like this for here in the US? They are hitting the road with it. Caravans of National Guard equipment but with new never before seen equipment in the convoys. Take a close look at what is painted on the side of the Black Humvees. The Humvees are fully armored the same standard used by our military.​
The use of the word ?Rescue? is an obvious psy op?makes it sound nice and benign, kind of like a life-saving paramedic ambulance and not a domination and death machine. The Posse Comitatus Act is gone.

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They are gearing up for serious business and are training the National Guard, FEMA and Police with them. The latest batch of 2,500 GLS vehicles don?t come more heavily-armored. The GLS is the larger vehicle on the trailer below. It is a deadly serious piece of equipment and they have never been used inside the US until now. All information in this email has been released publicly.

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[images/commentary courtesy of Rense.com]
The United States government is and has been planning for unlikely events like war and societal collapse for many years. This year President Obama has implemented, by Executive Order, doomsday response plans that would essentially give the government an unprecedented ability to nationalize large industries, personal farm and ranch land, and even your skills and labor in the event of a declared emergency. A control grid is being put into place to handle what they know is coming.​
The only question is: What, exactly, is it that is coming to America?​
 

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SHTF Planning Gets You Ready for Life?s Unexpected Emergencies

Preparing for any unknown scenario for the past 20+ years has given me, my family and a select few a chance when it all goes sideways.

Doing this gives me great comfort in knowing that at some point, many stupid people will no longer be stealing my oxygen. It could name names, but you jerk offs know who you are.


<!-- Start Author Info Div -->Most preppers stock up with an Armageddon-like disaster in mind, but your preps can help when a small-scale personal disaster strikes as well.Consider the following, which could strike nearly anyone at any time:
  • Job loss
  • Weather disaster that takes down the grid
  • Unexpected financial obligation
  • Loss of a loved one
  • Pay cut
  • Illness
  • Loss of transportation
If you have been preparing for a year of grid-down after a civil collapse, take heart that you are likewise prepared for these events too.
I recently undertook a long-distance move with my child. We?ve been lucky enough to move to prepper heaven, surrounded by forests and lakes, but it came at a high cost financially. A surprise opportunity presented itself and, because I?m a prepper, I was able to jump at it.
We spent nearly every dime we had making this move, and, as always, when you arrive, there are unexpected expenses. I began to panic as I looked at my near-empty wallet, then I got a hold of myself ? ?What kind of prepper are you if this makes you panic? What are you going to do when a real disaster strikes??
So, I got in touch with my inner prepper and we are sailing through the tight spot with flying colors. Not only is it a good test of my physical preps, like food, fuel and other supplies; but it is a test of my mindset and my can-do prepper spirit.
Here are some of the challenges we have met:
  • No washing machine: We?ve got to wait for a couple of weeks to purchase a washer. Instead of hanging it decoratively on the wall of the laundry room, we took down the washboard and used it in the bathtub to scrub some clothes clean. No wonder pioneer women were rarely fat ? that is a heck of a workout! We?re hanging our clean clothes to dry and I think we will continue to air-dry instead of purchasing a tumble dryer right away.
  • No extra money for a grocery stock-up: While fresh fruits and veggies are nice, and always a preference, the goods that I canned from my garden this summer are also full of nutrients. We?ve hit up our prepper pantry and were able to spend less than $20 getting a few basics at the store to last us for another 2 weeks. The fun part is the creativity of making meals from the prepper pantry ? I?m trying out some fantastic recipes and combining my home canned produce and meats with my stockpiles of rice, pasta and barley.
  • Entertainment: We?ve moved out to the boonies in a place where we don?t know anyone. So we are enjoying our books and games, and exploring the great outdoors for loads of no-cost fun.
  • Fix It: Tapping in to the prepper mindset, instead of despairing and rushing off to the store when I unpacked the drying rack to find that the dowels had snapped in the moving truck, I got out the duct tape and repaired it ? it looks kind of funny but it works just as well as it did pre-move.
  • First Aid: There once was a time that many first aid requirements would send us running to the pharmacy to pick up polysporin, bandages or a heating pad. However, there is no place to just ?run to? quickly here ? it?s a large undertaking when the store is 20 minutes away. Much to my delight, every issue we have had has been taken care of by my apparently rather well-stocked first aid kit that I have collected: aloe vera juice for a burn; ibuprofen for a headache; bandages, peroxide and polysporin for a cut, and an ice pack to be filled from the freezer for a smashed finger.
So all in all, aside from some supplies specific to my daughter?s new school, we have been delighted to discover there is absolutely nothing we need so much that it can?t be put off for quite a while! Weathering this little shower so well makes me feel confident that we will weather the real storms ahead with flying colors.
When an unexpected personal event causes a bump in the road, use it as an opportunity to test your preps for the difficult times ahead!
 

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it all depends on what hits the fan

I think I understand what you're trying to say Lumi, but personally, I think a natural disaster (i.e., cat 5, major earthquake, etc.) is the trigger that blows everything wide open.

I think a natural disaster paralyzes everything before civil disobedience, European economic woes or an air-borne epidemic.
 

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Zombies Are Not Movie Characters ! Have you seen people using the term " Zombie Apo

Zombies Are Not Movie Characters ! Have you seen people using the term " Zombie Apo

Zombies Are Not Movie Characters !



Have you seen people using the term " Zombie Apocalypse " while reading Prepper/Survival articles, posts on Facebook or a in a comments and found yourself wondering what they mean ?


My personal opinion is that they are not talking about Zombies as the walking dead but people who spent their lives in denial thinking that nothing bad could happen to them or find themselves in the middle of a disaster. Simply they did not prepare themselves mentally, physically or stock supplies to ensure their or their families survival.

When a disaster or economic collapse suddenly happens, they become scared, desperate and their will to live by any means will bring out their killer instincts. People will make a choice to either give up and become a victim or they will fight like hell to survive.

Ask yourself this question as you're sitting here reading this, " What would you be willing to do to save your children, husband, wife, mother, father.... your family ?" This is a very deep soul-searching question. I can guarantee if you are ever in that situation you will be capable of a lot more than your mind will allow you to even think about now."

I hope it would bring out the best in people and great acts of heroism would come forth ....

What are your thoughts ?
 

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[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif] 11 Emergency Food Items That Can Last a Lifetime[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif] by Tess Pennington
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Did you know that with proper storage techniques, you can have a lifetime supply of certain foods? Certain foods can stand the test of time, and continue being a lifeline to the families that stored it. Knowing which foods last indefinitely and how to store them are you keys to success.
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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The best way to store food for the long term is by using a multi-barrier system. This system protects the food from natural elements such as moisture and sunlight, as well as from insect infestations.
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Typically, those who store bulk foods look for inexpensive items that have multi-purposes and will last long term. Listed below are 11 food items that are not only multi-purpose preps, but they can last a lifetime![/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Honey[/FONT]
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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Honey never really goes bad. In a tomb in Egypt 3,000 years ago, honey was found and was still edible. If there are temperature fluctuations and sunlight, then the consistency and color can change. Many honey harvesters say that when honey crystallizes, then it can be re-heated and used just like fresh honey. Because of honey?s low water content, microorganisms do not like the environment.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Uses: curing, baking, medicinal, wine (mead)[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Salt[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Although salt is prone to absorbing moisture, it?s shelf life is indefinite. This indispensable mineral will be a valuable commodity in a long-term disaster and will be a essential bartering item. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Uses: curing, preservative, cooking, cleaning, medicinal, tanning hides[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Sugar[/FONT]
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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Life would be so boring without sugar. Much like salt, sugar is also prone to absorbing moisture, but this problem can be eradicated by adding some rice granules into the storage container.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Uses: sweetener for beverages, breads, cakes, preservative, curing, gardening, insecticide (equal parts of sugar and baking powder will kill cockroaches).[/FONT]
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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Wheat[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Wheat is a major part of the diet for over 1/3 of the world. This popular staple supplies 20% of daily calories to a majority of the world population. Besides being a high carbohydrate food, wheat contains valuable protein, minerals, and vita*mins. Wheat protein, when balanced by other foods that supply certain amino acids such as lysine, is an efficient source of protein.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Uses: baking, making alcohol, livestock feed, leavening agent[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Dried corn[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Essentially, dried corn can be substituted for any recipe that calls for fresh corn. Our ancestors began drying corn because of it?s short lived season. To extend the shelf life of corn, it has to be preserved by drying it out so it can be used later in the year. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Uses: soups, cornmeal, livestock feed, hominy and grits, heating source (do a search for corn burning fireplaces).[/FONT]
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Lumi,

I believe the collapse will be swift. One minute everything appears to be fine...next minute, total chaos.


Fletch: "Yeah, but I mean the very end, when he actually died. That was extremely sudden"



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