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Like these but going to wait for better lines:

Indy +6.5 (kc)
KC has been lighting it up on the road and now they come home to the comfy confines of arrowhead against a Indy team that the public is down on. Indy is set for a loss based on their W L W L W L W trend since the bye week. I will take my chances getting a TD or more.

Buff +2.5 (mia)
Buff has fight and miami is ripe off the win against NE, miami will be popular.

Was +2.5 (dal)
Skins have problems but dallas has bigger problems :facepalm: rival game, some may think dallas bounces back, i'm looking to get pts at home.

Az +10.5 (sea) if fitzgerald is playing
Az is in a fight, they must win for the wild card hunt, if fitzgerald is playing i like the 10.5 pts. despite a gimpy carson palmer :scared

Blt ? (ne)
Blt. they are at it again, at home with momentum, pat's are pretty thin, i lean Blt as less than a fg fav.
 

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Like these but going to wait for better lines:

Indy +6.5 (kc)
KC has been lighting it up on the road and now they come home to the comfy confines of arrowhead against a Indy team that the public is down on. Indy is set for a loss based on their W L W L W L W trend since the bye week. I will take my chances getting a TD or more.

Buff +2.5 (mia)
Buff has fight and miami is ripe off the win against NE, miami will be popular.

Was +2.5 (dal)
Skins have problems but dallas has bigger problems :facepalm: rival game, some may think dallas bounces back, i'm looking to get pts at home.

Az +10.5 (sea) if fitzgerald is playing
Az is in a fight, they must win for the wild card hunt, if fitzgerald is playing i like the 10.5 pts. despite a gimpy carson palmer :scared

Blt ? (ne)
Blt. they are at it again, at home with momentum, pat's are pretty thin, i lean Blt as less than a fg fav.

Good colts thread

http://www.stampedeblue.com/2013/12...ferent-sunday-against-the-texans-the-shotgun#

Rogers really seems to be loosening up the defense for better passing, but it's going to take a real effort to stay in that with KC.

Would like to see Washington win, Cousins looked good.

Liking college bowls more than pros, Bowling Green and Utah St. in particular.
 

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Liking college bowls more than pros, Bowling Green and Utah St. in particular.

I like those too, will have to look more into BG's interim coach, their special teams coach has taken over.
Going to have to look into Utah st. but fade N.Ill for sure.
 

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Good colts thread

http://www.stampedeblue.com/2013/12...ferent-sunday-against-the-texans-the-shotgun#

Rogers really seems to be loosening up the defense for better passing, but it's going to take a real effort to stay in that with KC.

KC is so over valued, who have they beaten, well i'll tell you, nobody. In fact when facing a good qb they lose, they have lost to Rivers, yeah Rivers and Manning.

Indy will not be giving these guys 7 turnovers either, a la Oak. This game will be great and the KC backers will be pissed and wondering how a lame Indy team at Arrowhead could keep it close if not win outright against an 11-3 Chiefs team.

I could be wrong but this one just seems right to me and if not i'll eat the crow.
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I'll add this, Alex Smith had a perfect passer rating last week :0002
Jamaal Charles had 5 TD's last week :0002

I am banking on a little Luck this week :0002
 

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Was 2.5? The Dal-Phi game and the Chi-GB game next wk have to decide the divisions and who makes the playoffs.

But maybe networks and sponsors put up billions because they don't care if people watch the games. As long as a few people hit the wrong button on the remote occasionally it's all good.
 

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Hang on here. If Dallas loses this week and Philly wins, next week means nothing.
Philly would be in.:shrug:
 

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KC is so over valued, who have they beaten, well i'll tell you, nobody. In fact when facing a good qb they lose, they have lost to Rivers, yeah Rivers and Manning.

Indy will not be giving these guys 7 turnovers either, a la Oak. This game will be great and the KC backers will be pissed and wondering how a lame Indy team at Arrowhead could keep it close if not win outright against an 11-3 Chiefs team.

I could be wrong but this one just seems right to me and if not i'll eat the crow.
:toast:

Both sides have incentive. This matchup will be repeated in wildcard round if they come in at #4 and #5 seeds. In that case, pretty sure IND would be the play, particularly if they don't cover here, which is my guess (but I'm not playing it, as I want to see IND win).

To me, this pick hinges on whether IND can stop KC from scoring. Have my doubts about that. IND had a shutout last week. Before that, somewhat deceptive at CIN, as refs stole a successful goalline stand from IND and gave CIN a TD to end 1h, making it 14-0 instead of 7-0. IND D may be starting to come on a bit, but this will be a very difficult environment to win in. Gonna spectate and hope for rematch in two weeks, and then bet against Reid, he tends to get dumb in big games.

The experts have hated IND all season, according to other experts, ha. Because their numbers say they shouldn't be covering/winning, yet they do. A lot of these experts need to look up from their stats and understand what's actually going on in IND. They are two years off 2-11. They are 9-5 - with a HUGE number of injuries. They've been struggling the back half of the season to get back a semblance of their good passing game back in the wake of Wayne injury, while also trying to do some power running behind their expensive purchase Richardson, who hasn't been able to do anything until week 15. Without their QB, they'd be losing pretty much every game. But with him, they have belief, they slowly work out what works, and 2/3 of the time end up winning. They make few penalties and don't turn the ball over much - that side of the game is generally in their favor, no small thing. But now they're going into KC playing a very hot team with a huge crowd advantage, just don't see much that's in IND's favor apart from the extra 6' points. What I 'know' is that IND is not going to be bitch-slapped in the first round of the playoffs like last year. As a fan, I'm hoping IND wins; as a bettor, I'm thinking KC beats them by about 17, which will really set up nice for playoff rematch.

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Trying this: 3t (8' pts): was+11, cin-1, ne+9'. pays +110.
 
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Yeah, I like Cincy too that line is up to 8 now, looks like a popular play.

You heard it here first, lol, no way the Chiefs win by 17, that's the public perception though.

Chiefs have killed horrendous teams last two weeks which amounts to virtually nothing, except inflated valued. Last week everyone remembers a blowout but if you take away the 7 turnovers they might not have covered. They were out gained yardage wise and time of possession and it wasn't Oak getting garbage scores late.

Take these trends with a grain of salt, you can usually find trends to support a play one way or the other but i like these :142smilie

Chiefs are 4-11 ATS in their last 15 home games vs. a team with a winning road record.
Chiefs are 1-5 ATS vs. a team with a winning record.
Chiefs are 0-4 ATS in their last 4 home games.

Colts are 6-1 ATS in their last 7 meetings in Kansas City.
Colts are 9-3 ATS in their last 12 meetings.


I see your angle on their next "projected" meeting, that could be. I just do not think KC is that much better, KC has had a cake schedule and have taken advantage, played well and have not made many mistakes. Time will tell but their home record ATS is not as good as you would think.
 

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IF, A big IF, K.C. won their last 2 games and Denver lost theirs, K.C. wouldn`t even be playing
Indy in the playoffs. Just a thought.:facepalm:
 

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Yeah, I like Cincy too that line is up to 8 now, looks like a popular play.

I don't like doing 3t but 5d has twisted the hell out of the teaser line for cin and ne both, so you have to pay -165. that tells me they're pretty sure that 2teaser will win. i threw on wash to get +110.

You heard it here first, lol, no way the Chiefs win by 17, that's the public perception though.

If the Rams beat 'em by 35, KC can certainly do 17. But like I said, I'm not betting it because I don't have a read on KC. I do on IND. I think Ind will play fairly well, I just don't think they can stop KC from scoring. Their D did well last week against Hou, but that was the exception of late. Better thing for them was they got their offense going from the first drive, which has been a problem all season. I do think IND will score some, but unless they can hold KC to under 21, I don't they'll cover, and I don't think they can do that. The weather might help a little, with low 20s and possible snow, but I think the crowd will go nuts and offset that. I'd rather bet Reid in this game than in two weeks, because I can just see his look of fat confusion at the 2MW in IND as they go down in an upset.

Hey, I'm pulling for Indy, though, I just love watching Luck. The problem is, their receivers aren't reliable. Unless Rogers can stretch the field, which he has some, it's too hard for them to pick up third downs. And now they're going to play a good defense away.

Chiefs have killed horrendous teams last two weeks which amounts to virtually nothing, except inflated valued. Last week everyone remembers a blowout but if you take away the 7 turnovers they might not have covered. They were out gained yardage wise and time of possession and it wasn't Oak getting garbage scores late.

Yeah, I understand that. Definitely what has just happened will be overreacted to by the public in KC's favor, but that's not the reason I gave for thinking KC will win by 17. I don't think IND can score that much or stop KC in this game. Their D isn't that good. Last game was the only one they really shut a team down .

Take these trends with a grain of salt, you can usually find trends to support a play one way or the other but i like these :142smilie

Chiefs are 4-11 ATS in their last 15 home games vs. a team with a winning road record.
Chiefs are 1-5 ATS vs. a team with a winning record.
Chiefs are 0-4 ATS in their last 4 home games.

Colts are 6-1 ATS in their last 7 meetings in Kansas City.
Colts are 9-3 ATS in their last 12 meetings.

I see your angle on their next "projected" meeting, that could be. I just do not think KC is that much better, KC has had a cake schedule and have taken advantage, played well and have not made many mistakes. Time will tell but their home record ATS is not as good as you would think.

The main reason I'd back IND if I were, which I'm not, is they just generally play pretty close - they have all the last two years. Until Wayne got injured, then they seem to alternate blowouts and wins. But that fact, that they stay close and cover all kinds of games where the "experts" are the other way is why I'm NOT betting on KC and just staying off. The experts have been wrong continually about them, and this might well be another example. The cold and the fact they're very likely to play again in two weeks is another reason to think the score might be closer.

Ultimately, I trust Reid to mess up in a big game, and I think the game in two weeks will be much easier to call than this one. Just think KC piles up more points because the Colts just don't stop people that much. But yeah, they're not going to be racking up 5 TDs for one player and junk like that. I knew KC better earlier this season, and went against them at home, and should have won (on GIA and one other), they played close the whole game, and then broke away at very end to cover easily. Now they seem to be in a different place than back then. Just think it will be easier for them to score on Ind's D than vice versa. We'll see.
 

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IF, A big IF, K.C. won their last 2 games and Denver lost theirs, K.C. wouldn`t even be playing
Indy in the playoffs. Just a thought.:facepalm:

I know. It's just much likelier than any other outcome that IND and KC get the 4 and 5 seeds, hence play each other in the Wildcard Round AT indianaoplis. Den is playing at HOU and at OAK, hard to see them losing both of those.
 

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Had a small bet on IND season wins over 8'. When they won last week, contacted 5d asking when they'd pay out. They said end of regular season. But credited it the next day.
 

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Had a small bet on IND season wins over 8'. When they won last week, contacted 5d asking when they'd pay out. They said end of regular season. But credited it the next day.

That's cool, glad they did that, i had one future and it was on Was. to win their division :facepalm: 5D graded it a loss as soon as they were eliminated, a couple weeks back.
 

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I know. It's just much likelier than any other outcome that IND and KC get the 4 and 5 seeds, hence play each other in the Wildcard Round AT indianaoplis. Den is playing at HOU and at OAK, hard to see them losing both of those.

That's cool, glad they did that, i had one future and it was on Was. to win their division :facepalm: 5D graded it a loss as soon as they were eliminated, a couple weeks back.

Yeah, it's good on their part get things settled as soon as they're over, either way.

Listened to all the experts...they really like SF on monday - last game at Candlestick, likely to be a blowout. that's MNF. some like 56 under in chi-phi (SNF).

Agree with you on Ariz and points, altho have not personally done well going against Seattle.

like NO again +3 and ML, just dont think CAR is that good. like JET too.

College, like Wash St, USC (i believe they WILL play hard, after blowout last year and despite anger at coach being let go), but like that on ML, kessler and carr are childhood friends, so might be close, if not then USC blowout... like buffalo over sds, like laf over tulane. like boiSt. like BG a lot. Like UtSt as much as any bowl play, i just think they're a different class than NIL.
 

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I know. It's just much likelier than any other outcome that IND and KC get the 4 and 5 seeds, hence play each other in the Wildcard Round AT indianaoplis. Den is playing at HOU and at OAK, hard to see them losing both of those.

Correction. They are both tied at 11-3. If K.C. wins both and Den. loses 1 K.C.

wins division. If both K.C. and Den. win this week They won`t be resting players next week.

Good luck with your wagers.:0074
 

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Correction. They are both tied at 11-3. If K.C. wins both and Den. loses 1 K.C.

wins division. If both K.C. and Den. win this week They won`t be resting players next week.

Good luck with your wagers.:0074

Correct. What's the likeliehood of KC winning division? I give it 20% at most. Which means this IND-KC matchup will very likely happen again in wildcard @ IND.

I'm trying this along w 3t above:

2t (6' pts): NO +10 and Utah St. +8 (thursday)

If PHI has strong incentive, probably get on them in SNF, and surely play something on SF, -14, on MNF. Or sell pts to -17 to get odds on.

Good luck, everyone.
 
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