Bush Leads Kerry in Electoral Votes

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AP: Bush Leads Kerry in Electoral Votes

By RON FOURNIER, AP Political Writer

BOSTON - John Kerry narrowly trails President Bush in the battle for the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House, as he makes his case at the Democratic National Convention this week to topple the Republican incumbent.

With three months remaining in a volatile campaign, Kerry has 14 states and the District of Columbia in his column for 193 electoral votes. Bush has 25 states for 217 votes, according to an Associated Press analysis of state polls as well as interviews with strategists across the country.

"It's a tough, tough map. I think it's going to be a close race," said Democratic strategist Tad Devine, who helped plot Al Gore (news - web sites)'s state-by-state strategy in 2000 and plays the same role for Kerry.

"But looking back four years, we're much stronger now. I think we're going into this convention in great shape," he said.

Both candidates are short of the magic 270 electoral votes. The margin of victory will come from:

-TOSSUPS -- Bush and Kerry are running even in 11 states with a combined 128 electoral votes. Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Wisconsin, Michigan and West Virginia are the toughest battlegrounds. Two other tossups, Pennsylvania and Oregon, could soon move to Kerry's column.

-LEAN KERRY -- Maine, Minnesota and Washington (a combined 25 electoral votes) favor Kerry over Bush by a few percentage points. Gore carried them in 2000.

-LEAN BUSH -- North Carolina, Colorado, Louisiana, Arizona, Virginia, Arkansas and Missouri (a combined 73 electoral votes) give Bush modest leads. He won all seven in 2000.

All total, 21 states are in play. Some will bounce between "lean" to "tossup" throughout the campaign.

Four years ago, Bush won 30 states and their 271 electoral votes ? one more than needed. Gore, who won the popular vote, claimed 20 states plus the District of Columbia for 267 electoral votes.

Since then, reapportionment added electoral votes to states with population gains and took them from states losing people. The result: Bush's states are now worth 278 electoral votes and Gore's are worth just 260.

Even if Kerry consolidates Gore's states, no easy task, the Democrat must take 10 electoral votes from Bush's column to close the electoral vote gap.

Kerry's best prospects may be in the five tossup states won by Bush in 2000: Ohio, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire and West Virginia.

Winning either Ohio's 20 electoral votes or Florida's 27 would do the trick.

Bush easily won Ohio in 2000, but its lagging economy puts the state in play. Kerry must still reduce Bush's advantages among conservative, rural voters. Florida should favor Bush a bit more than in 2000, partly because of its relatively strong economy, but the war in Iraq (news - web sites) has helped keep the race close.

Nevada and West Virginia have a combined 10 electoral votes, enough to close the gap. New Hampshire, which neighbors Kerry's home state of Massachusetts, has four.

West Virginia voted Democratic for decades until Bush made values an issue in 2000; Kerry is stressing the theme this year. In Nevada, an influx of Hispanics and the administration's push to use Yucca Mountain as a nuclear waste site make the state tougher for Bush than in 2000.

Six of the 11 tossup states were won by Gore: Pennsylvania, Oregon, Michigan, Iowa, New Mexico and Wisconsin. But the margin of victory was just a few thousand votes in Iowa, New Mexico and Wisconsin ? meaning Kerry has his work cut out to keep them.

Of the three, Bush likes his chances best in Wisconsin, where he is targeting rural voters in a bid to widen the electoral gap by 10 votes.

Flush with money and leading a united party, Kerry increased his odds by expanding the playing field into a handful of GOP states that Bush easily won in 2000, including Arkansas, Louisiana, Arizona, Virginia and Colorado. Results have been mixed.

After testing the waters, Kerry pulled his ads from Arkansas and Louisiana, and downgraded his focus on Virginia and Arizona. Hispanic voters make Colorado a prime target, but Democrats acknowledge it's a tough state to win.

"The race is still fundamentally tied, and the Electoral College map reflects that," said Bush strategist Matthew Dowd. "But there is beginning to be a slight tilt toward us with Arkansas, Tennessee, Missouri and Arizona no longer being seriously contested."

Kerry added another Republican-leaning state to his target list when he chose Sen. John Edwards (news - web sites) of North Carolina as his running mate. Aides are divided over whether North Carolina will remain a battleground through November, but its 15 electoral votes are too tempting to ignore.

Missouri, a traditional battleground, recently moved to the Bush-leaning category and is being written off by some Democrats. The Kerry campaign reduced its ad campaign in the state after polls showed him consistently 4 to 6 percentage points behind Bush, with little room for improvement.

Republican advantages in rural Missouri and the fast-growing exurbs make the state tough for Democrats, but Kerry will likely keep it on the table through November in case the political winds shift. Besides, abandoning a traditional battleground would be embarrassing.

The four-term Massachusetts senator has begun to gather strength in traditionally Democratic states such as Maine, Minnesota and Washington. All were tossups in the spring, but now lean toward Kerry. A good convention could push Pennsylvania and Oregon into the lean-Kerry category.

Recent polls give Kerry an edge in both states, but strategists for Kerry and Bush say the races are still tossup.

"There is an angry feeling toward the incumbent because of Iraq," said David Sweet, who managed Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell's 2000 campaign. "I think Kerry will win in the end, but that's partly based on an assumption of things to come. It's close."

Of the states won by Gore, Pennsylvania is by far Bush's top target. The president has spent millions of dollars in the state on commercials and has visited it more than any other contested state ? 30 trips since his inauguration.

For Kerry, losing Pennsylvania would create a virtually insurmountable electoral vote gap.
 

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Nothing been counted yet. No one voted. And if thy learn how to count ballots. Well you never know if they keep it out of the supreme courts hands. This baby with any luck is going down to the wire. I hope so it would be dull if any other way.
 

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last i checked they didn't vote in JULY????

how stupid are you scott????

if thats the case, hey i just head they awareded the BCS championship to ILLINOIS!!!!!


CONGRATS TO THE FIGHTING ILLINI!!!!!

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
 
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Bush or Kerry: The Electoral College Map

Below, a list of states is followed by poll details. A state is categorized as "Bush" or "Kerry" if the latest poll gives either candidate a lead outside the poll's margin of error. Poll data are provided by PollingReport.com; only polls with methodologies that meet their standards are used.

More about the map, polls, Nader's status, electoral vote changes since 2000 and PollingReport.com is below the list.

How the States Line Up in Latest Polls:


Bush:
Alabama
Alaska
Georgia
Indiana
Idaho
Kansas
Mississippi
Montana
Nebraska
*Nevada
North Dakota
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Wyoming

Swing:
*Arizona
*Arkansas
Colorado
Delaware
*Florida
*Iowa
Kentucky
Louisiana
*Maine
*Michigan
*Minnesota
*Missouri
*New Hampshire
*New Mexico
North Carolina
*Oregon
*Ohio
Tennessee
*Washington
*West Virginia
*Wisconsin

Kerry:
California
Connecticut
District of Columbia
Hawaii
Illinois
Maryland
Massachusetts
New Jersey
New York
*Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
Vermont

*The 17 "key battleground" states that have often been cited by the campaigns and other observers. These also tend to be the states that have the most polls and, so far, the most changes in leads.
Also: Latest national poll details



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Alabama
Capital Survey Research Center/Alabama Education Association. May 24-27, 2004. N=576 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4.1:
Bush 54%
Kerry 35%
Neither/Unsure 11%


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Alaska
Dittman Research Corporation for Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R). June 23-30, 2004. N=511 registered voters statewide. MoE ? 4.3.

Bush 56%
Kerry 33%
Kerry 5%
Unsure 6%


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Arizona
Arizona State University/KAET-TV Poll. July 15-18, 2004. N=387 registered voters statewide. MoE ? 5:

Bush 41%
Kerry 42%
Unsure 17%
Note: The Nader campaign abandoned a bid to get on the ballot.


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Arkansas
Arkansas State University. March 1 - April 8, 2004: N=418 registered voters statewide:

Bush 51%
Kerry 43%
Nader 7%

Note: Undecided responses factored out. Margin of error not available.


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California
Public Policy Institute of California Statewide Survey. July 6-14, 2004. Statewide: Names rotated. N=1,064 likely voters, MoE ? 2 (total sample):
Bush 38%
Kerry 49%
Nader 5%
Other/Unsure 8%


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Colorado
Denver Poll conducted by Mason-Dixon Polling & Research. June 15-18, 2004. N=800 active voters statewide. MoE ? 3.5:

Bush 48%
Kerry 43%
Nader 3%
Unsure 6%


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Connecticut
Quinnipiac University Poll. June 27-28, 2004. N=929 registered voters statewide. MoE ? 3.2:
Bush 32%
Kerry 50%
Nader 9%
Other/Wouldn't Vote/Unsure 9%


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Delaware
Note: No recent poll. Voted for the winning candidate in every election since 1948 except 2000, when Gore won the state.


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District of Columbia
Note: No recent poll. Considered safely Democratic. Never voted Republican since awarded electoral votes in 1964.


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Florida
Mason-Dixon Polling & Research for news media clients. July 19-21, 2004. N=625 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4 (total sample):
Bush 48%
Kerry 46%
Nader 2%
Other/Unsure 4%


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Georgia
Strategic Vision (R). July 9-11, 2004. N=801 registered voters. MoE ? 4:
Bush 51%
Kerry 38%
Nader 1%
Unsure 10%


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Hawaii

Note: No recent poll. Considered a likely Kerry state.


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Idaho
Greg Smith & Associates (R) for KTVB and KIDO. June 8-10 & 14, 2004. N=400 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 5 (for all likely voters):
Bush 55%
Kerry 25%
Nader 6%
Unsure 14%


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Illinois
Market Shares Corp. for The Chicago Tribune and WGN-TV. May 21-24, 2004. N=600 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4:
Bush 37%
Kerry 53%
Nader 4%
Unsure 7%


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Indiana
Market Research Informatics Hoosier Poll. July 8-12, 2004. N=852 registered voters statewide. MoE ? 3.4:
Bush 46%
Kerry 27%
Other 1%
Unsure 26%
Note: The Nader campaign has abandoned a bid to get on the ballot here.



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Iowa
Strategic Vision (R). July 19-21, 2004. N=801 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 3:

Bush 46%
Kerry 47%
Nader 1%
Unsure 6%


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Kansas
Note: No recent poll. Considered safe for Bush.


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Kentucky
Garin-Hart-Yang Research Group for the U.S. Senate campaign of state Sen. Daniel Mongiardo (D). May 19-20, 2004. N=504 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4.5:

Bush 49%
Kerry 43%
Unsure 8%


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Louisiana
Market Research Insight for private clients. May 19-26, 2004. N=600 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4:

Bush 48%
Kerry 42%
Other/Unsure 10%


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Maine
Strategic Marketing Services. June 5-12, 2004. N=400 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4.9:

Bush 41%
Kerry 44%
Nader 5%
Unsure 11%


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Maryland
Gonzales Research & Marketing Strategies. June 4-9, 2004. N=836 registered voters statewide. MoE ? 3.5:

Bush 38%
Kerry 52%
Nader 2%
Unsure 8%


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Massachusetts
7News-Suffolk University poll. July 15-18, 2004. N=400 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4.9:

Bush 30%
Kerry 59%
Nader 2%
Unsure 10%


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Michigan
Strategic Vision (R). July 13-17, 2004. N=801 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 3:

Bush 44%
Kerry 46%
Nader 1%
Unsure 9%


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Minnesota
Mason-Dixon Polling & Research for The St. Paul Pioneer Press and Minnesota Public Radio. July 12-14, 2004. N=625 active voters statewide. MoE ? 4:

Bush 44%
Kerry 45%
Nader 2%
Unsure 9%
Note: Week-earlier poll showed Libertarian Michael Badnarik with 1%.


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Missouri
Research 2000 for The St. Louis Post-Dispatch and KMOV-TV. July 20-22, 2004. N=802 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 3.5 (total sample):

Bush 45%
Kerry 47%
Nader 2%
Unsure 6%



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Mississippi
Mississippi State University Mississippi Poll. April 5-21, 2004. N=300 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 5.8:

Bush 61%
Kerry 30%
Don't Know 9%


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Montana
Mason-Dixon Polling & Research for Lee Newspapers. May 24-26, 2004. N=625 active voters statewide. MoE ? 4:

Bush 53%
Kerry 33%
Nader 6%
Unsure 8%


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Nebraska
Note: No recent poll. Nebraska last went Democratic in 1964.


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Nevada
Mason-Dixon Polling & Research for The Las Vegas Review-Journal. March 15-17, 2004. N=625 active voters statewide. MoE ? 4:

Bush 49%
Kerry 38%
Nader 4%
Unsure 9%


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New Hampshire
American Research Group poll. July 19-21, 2004. N=600 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4 (total sample):

Bush 45%
Kerry 47%
Kerry 3%
Unsure 5%


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New Jersey
Quinnipiac University Poll. June 15-20, 2004. N=1,167 registered voters statewide. MoE ? 2.9:

Bush 40%
Kerry 46%
Nader 7%
Unsure/Others 7%


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New Mexico
American Research Group Poll. July 6-8, 2004. N=600 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4:

Bush 42%
Kerry 49%
Nader 3%
Unsure 6%


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New York
Siena College Poll. July 12-15, 2004. N=604 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4:

Bush 29%
Kerry 51%
Nader 2%
Unsure 19%
 

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North Carolina
Research 2000 for The Raleigh News & Observer, et al. July 10-14, 2004. N=600 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4:
Bush 49%
Kerry 44%
Unsure 7%
Note: Another poll taken during same period showed similar result. CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll a few days earlier showed Bush lead five points above margin of error.


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North Dakota
Note: Considered safe for Bush.


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Ohio
American Research Group Poll. July 20-22, 2004. N=600 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4 (for all likely voters):

Bush 45%
Kerry 47%
Nader 3%
Unsure 5%


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Oklahoma
Tulsa World/KOTV Oklahoma Poll conducted by Consumer Logic. July 8-12, 2004. N=756 registered voters statewide. Margin of error not reported.

Bush 59%
Kerry 35%
Unsure 6%


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Oregon
American Research Group poll. July 19-22, 2004. N=600 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4 (for all likely voters):

Bush 42%
Kerry 50%
Nader 4%
Unsure 4%


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Pennsylvania
Los Angeles Times Poll. July 17-21, 2004. N=815 registered voters statewide. MoE ? 4:

Bush 38%
Kerry 48%
Nader 5%
Unsure 9%


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Rhode Island
Brown University poll. June 12-14, 2004. N=477 registered voters, MoE ? 5:

Bush 25%
Kerry 49%
Nader 5%
Unsure 21%


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South Carolina
Public Opinion Strategies for Rep. Jim DeMint (R) and the National Republican Senatorial Committee. June 28-29, 2004. N=600 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4:

Bush 55%
Kerry 40%
Unsure 5%


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South Dakota
Zogby International for the Watertown Public Opinion, Mitchell Daily Republic, et al. May 19-20, 2004. N=503 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4.5:

Bush 48%
Kerry 34%
Nader 6%
Other 1%
Unsure 11%
Note: South Dakota last went Democratic in 1964


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Tennessee
Middle Tennessee State University. Feb. 16-28, 2004. N=698 adults statewide. MoE ? 4:
Bush 48%
Kerry 44%
Don't Know 9%


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Texas
Scripps Howard Texas Poll. May 3-15, 2004. Statewide: N=1,000 adults, MoE ? 3

Bush 58%
Kerry 29%
Neither/Other 4%
Unsure 9%


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Utah
Dan Jones & Associates for The Deseret News and KSL-TV. May 10-13, 2004. Statewide. General Election Trial Heats (N=923 registered voters, MoE ? 3.2):

Bush 67%
Kerry 22%
Nader 3%
Other/Don't Know 7%
Note: Utah last went Democratic in 1964


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Vermont
Research 2000 for WCAX Television. April 28-30, 2004. N=400 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4:

Bush 36%
Kerry 51%
Nader 4%
Unsure 9%


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Virginia
Note: No recent poll.


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Washington
Moore Information (R). June 23-24, 2004. N=500 registered voters statewide. MoE ? 4:

Bush 43%
Kerry 43%
Nader 4%
Other/Unsure 10%


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West Virginia
American Research Group poll. June 15-17, 2004. N=600 likely voters voters statewide. MoE ? 4:

Bush 44%
Kerry 47%
Nader 3%
Unsure 6%


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Wisconsin
American Research Group poll. July 13-15, 2004. N=600 likely voters statewide. MoE ? 4:

Bush 42%
Kerry 48%
Nader 4%
Don't Know 6%


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Wyoming
Note: No recent poll. Wyoming last went Democratic in 1964.


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National Poll
Los Angeles Times Poll. July 17-21, 2004. N=1,529 registered voters nationwide. MoE ? 3:

Bush 44%
Kerry 46%
Nader 3%
Unsure 7%
 

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Look out remember there are 500000 pissed off folks from 4 years ago think they got screwed. And it seems they did.
I believe the race will really get started when they have debates.
Kerry asking for 5 sounds like Bush said 3. So maybe they will end the BS at 4. Thats when all those siting on the fence will decide.
Hell these polls are getting confusing. Some have Kerry up 10 points and others call it even and some Bush up by 8. I got to the point I don't believe any of them anymore.
 
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Kerry has his work cut out for him. United States does not elect LIBERAL CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT. Kerry is very Liberal. Demon-crats should have elected a candidate who is like Clinton. Not so liberal.

Kerry is smart in trying to get 5 debates. Gore also wanted more debates vs Bush. Bush has more to lose with each debate and Kerry has more to gain. Last election "everyone" predicted Gore would kill Bush in the debates and that did not happen. I am not worried at all about Bush debating Kerry. I do know Cheney will smoke Edwards. Cheney is VERY smart and I enjoy listening to him debate. Then again, VP's have very little impact on who gets elected President.

The most crucial state in this election is Penn. and that is the state Bush has spent the most time campaigning. Demon-crats even say Kerry has little chance in winning if he loses Penn. to Bush. Now if Kerry wins Penn. that does not necessarily mean he wins the election. It just means he has a chance.

My prediction is if the economy etc. stays the same or even gets better, then Bush wins this election. The country will not elect a LIBERAL President.
 

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dear trojan, you will only need to look at one poll............

ohio

whoever wins ohio wins the election! its as simple as that
 

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I agree Iwsinc. Ohio is the key. Granted I'm somewhat biased as I live here. I can tell you that where I live its 50-50. If its 50-50 in northeast ohio, Bush will easily carry the state. Scott, I also agree Cheney will eat Edwards for lunch. If youve ever seen Cheney speak, he is matter of fact, committed to his beliefs and obviously very very bright. He will relate to the average joe. Edwards on the other hand will come across as this smooth talking, full of tricks trial lawyer who will be distrusted by the majority of the citizens of this country. No contest. Give me Cheney -10 1/2 and he still covers.

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you guys are right about ohio.

i heard no republican has won without ohio.

that said, i think bush wins by about 50 electoral votes.

because when the voters go behind the curtin to vote. they will ask themselves who would do a better job of fighting the terrorists.

most will choose bush, imo.
 

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Not sure terror will be number one for those from Ohio. There looking for jobs. Penn same way big job losses in that state.
 

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No way DJV. Ohio has lost jobs sure, but this is the heartland. Ohioans want a strong leader. If democratic Cleveland is wishy washy about Kerry, the southern Ohio Republicans will carry the state for Bush. By my account, alot of Clevelanders will side with Bush. In addition, Cleveland is quite Catholic. Many of the Catholic voters are one issue voters and that issue is abortion. You will see many Catholics voting for Bush because he is pro-life despite the fact that Kerry is Catholic. The key to this election statewise is Ohio. The key to this election religionwise are the Catholics.

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