May As Well Get This Out Of The Way
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i do not know- but my clients will monitor how much they make-like i have done for a few people on this site for 4 years- if i decide useing a monitoring biz service will hurt biz i will not use them. example if a mon service only tracks % of win or losers and they show i am at 59% but i am up 200% for my clients using that service is baD BUSINESS. thanx for the kind words
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THUNDER said:
Huh?? I think I've heard this line before. "My clients monitor me; all the so called monitors are crooks!" Believe it came from the office of Scotty Spreitzer, or maybe it was Kevin Duffy, can't remember, but it has been said to me whilst arguing with a pitchman cold calling from a NYC basement.
Anyway, that said, I hope you fare well with your venture as you have been a quality man on this site. Please, just don't start sounding like the you know whos. :yup
I only brought up OSN because Raymond's old service URL points there now.
Thunder, you seem like a stand up guy and all but that comment SixFive alluded to makes you sound bad. Monitoring services like Best Bettor and OSN track units and I am pretty sure you know this. I am sure you also know that monitoring services do hurt business if a service is losing. Obviously if you are kicking tail on a monitoring service that should help business. Monitoring services don't deal with the issue of helping or hurting business anyway, they deal with the issue of giving a public record for prospective clients to evaluate the service and keep from getting skewered.
The reason for my comment is that I am planning a column about the services started by folks who used Mad Jacks to gain recognition before starting their service. It is not meant to be negative like most of my writing about services admittedly is, it is meant to just compare services run by the people Madjackers know and give them and idea of what to expect before they decide which service to use.
If you'd like to let me interview you for this column, email me off my page so that I can get the info on your service. If not I'll just go on whatever public info there is. Good luck.
Thunder, you seem like a stand up guy and all but that comment SixFive alluded to makes you sound bad. Monitoring services like Best Bettor and OSN track units and I am pretty sure you know this. I am sure you also know that monitoring services do hurt business if a service is losing. Obviously if you are kicking tail on a monitoring service that should help business. Monitoring services don't deal with the issue of helping or hurting business anyway, they deal with the issue of giving a public record for prospective clients to evaluate the service and keep from getting skewered.
The reason for my comment is that I am planning a column about the services started by folks who used Mad Jacks to gain recognition before starting their service. It is not meant to be negative like most of my writing about services admittedly is, it is meant to just compare services run by the people Madjackers know and give them and idea of what to expect before they decide which service to use.
If you'd like to let me interview you for this column, email me off my page so that I can get the info on your service. If not I'll just go on whatever public info there is. Good luck.
no what i am saying if we see fit toa be monitored then we will. but being monitored is not a consumer protection. for example ncoast only hit at 51% but won 38 units- also there late phone plays were the only thing rated- and they hit much better on there other plays. so was being monitored good for biz- i dont think so-but winning and strict mm will bring people back- i am not goy or lock guy and niether will the service-even ray is going to a 1% to 7% mm. but thanx for the kind words.
nic no i did not know these places go by units. or rated that way. thanx nic- i will consider it
Enough said. I happen to agree with you that monitoring is not the be all end all of consumer protection, but I do support monitoring at least in the form of posting your own plays on your own site at the end of each day.
Please do email me about the column I'm doing if you don't mind. I think it would be a good way for you to get information about your service out. No opinions from me in this column. Strictly the facts about the services. Good luck.
Please do email me about the column I'm doing if you don't mind. I think it would be a good way for you to get information about your service out. No opinions from me in this column. Strictly the facts about the services. Good luck.
You have to have accountability.
Numbers can be massaged any way you want them to be.
After all that's said and done, the only thing that matters at the end of the week is plus or minus. Same as any buisness out there. Documentation or monitoring units won or lost accomplishes this.
Good luck on your new buisness venture.
Numbers can be massaged any way you want them to be.
After all that's said and done, the only thing that matters at the end of the week is plus or minus. Same as any buisness out there. Documentation or monitoring units won or lost accomplishes this.
Good luck on your new buisness venture.
GL Thunder,
Hope all works out for yourself and ur gang!!
Steel City is always top notch in bases!!
Roger is great on over/under especially in nba. And Ray well everybody knows ray no need to explain!! Great Capper!!
Should work out great.
Ever need some Big Ten or Mac action just ask me or Hellah!!
GL TO U!!
Hope all works out for yourself and ur gang!!
Steel City is always top notch in bases!!
Roger is great on over/under especially in nba. And Ray well everybody knows ray no need to explain!! Great Capper!!
Should work out great.
Ever need some Big Ten or Mac action just ask me or Hellah!!
GL TO U!!
i am getting ahead of myself but,
i am getting ahead of myself but,
I have a question about future Thunder plays via the service. Thunder, during basketball season your plays seem to be very fluid. I have seen you put as much at 130% in play on your busiest days[a friday in march this year I believe]. How will a potential client[me,very interested] get these plays sent to him and be able to react in timely manner? Will I have to continuly check the site [like one would have following you on MJ's in the past] to keep up with the picks[sides,totals,half-time]? Is this even realisitcally possible? Will your volume of plays or % change b/c you are going pay? You are one of the best cappers I have ever seen and I understand you going "pay" but as a potential client I see a few kinks to be worked out considering your style of betting. Will there be a discount afforded to MadJackers? What if I only want "your basketball plays?"
On a personal note, it is sad but expected the the really talented cappers go pay one day or another and to pay for picks is business decision for those trying to make some "real" money at sports investing. Just as it is a business decision to go "pay."
i am getting ahead of myself but,
I have a question about future Thunder plays via the service. Thunder, during basketball season your plays seem to be very fluid. I have seen you put as much at 130% in play on your busiest days[a friday in march this year I believe]. How will a potential client[me,very interested] get these plays sent to him and be able to react in timely manner? Will I have to continuly check the site [like one would have following you on MJ's in the past] to keep up with the picks[sides,totals,half-time]? Is this even realisitcally possible? Will your volume of plays or % change b/c you are going pay? You are one of the best cappers I have ever seen and I understand you going "pay" but as a potential client I see a few kinks to be worked out considering your style of betting. Will there be a discount afforded to MadJackers? What if I only want "your basketball plays?"
On a personal note, it is sad but expected the the really talented cappers go pay one day or another and to pay for picks is business decision for those trying to make some "real" money at sports investing. Just as it is a business decision to go "pay."
service customers are only going to get our top plays and then opinions or action plays-on busy days there will be 2 updates there is a free forum and members forum where like here if there is ht playor other last minute play we will post it forr free. aervice costs are very low everybody can afford it- i meamn everybody-there will be a link up in the cappers section in the next couple days. as far as a discount for madjackers- when you visit the site enter the forum or email me and we will work things out. thanks again for the props and words.
THUNDER .....and.........RAYMOND.........DAMN FELLAS
Best of luck! I've looked to both of you in the past if I was on the line of a pick but, I understand and thank you guys for past service to all Madjackers.
Best of luck! I've looked to both of you in the past if I was on the line of a pick but, I understand and thank you guys for past service to all Madjackers.
Best of luck to all you guys, class acts all have enjoyed all of you and coatailed all of you a time or 2, LOL!! knock em dead, and stasy away from the jagoffs at Infinity
have enjoyed all of you and coatailed all of you a time or 2, LOL!! knock em dead, and stasy away from the jagoffs at InfinityIt always seems sad. We get used to following or checking others ideas, exchanging info. Then there gone. Almost like family leaving. Wish you all luck. Just wish you didn't all need to go. Your jobs just got tougher.
MJ your loseing some good dudes here. For your sake I hope it does not hurt the site. It's not the same getting everyones good picks. Then being left with just getting a sample of the free ones.
This is great for them. A big loss for us left here.
MJ your loseing some good dudes here. For your sake I hope it does not hurt the site. It's not the same getting everyones good picks. Then being left with just getting a sample of the free ones.
This is great for them. A big loss for us left here.
i wish nothing but good fortune to anybody willing to take the chance to start up a business.
good luck, boys!!
good luck, boys!!
