anybody watch the WPT on travel last night?

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and see that guy that looked like th frikkin' joker from Batman??? That guy was really freaking me out! I bet he's had at least 20 plastic surgeries on his face, and I think he should sue his doctor for poor results (not really). Can not think of his name, but I was referring to him as The Joker, lol.
 

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I seen that guy LOL.

I dont even play poker but I cannot stop watching it whenever it is on. If I flip the channel on it I am hooked.

The thing for me is seeing the cards. If they didnt show me the cards I wouldnt watch it. Knowing what they have when they are betting intrigues me for some reason.

It makes poker seem pretty easy when you know the hands.

I find myself yelling at the TV .... fold them you dumb bastid !
or you better raise that hand......

I guess its different when you are at the table with cut throats.

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that was the first time I had ever watched the travel channel version. I think the WSOP on ESPN had much better coverage. I liked seeing the win % chance pop up on the screen, and I had a harder time seeing the cards on the travel channel show. JOKER...
 

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I think ESPN is a little off with those percentages, example:

Player 1 has A/A and player 2 hasJ/J they would say player 1 was a 62% favorite to win the hand (arbitrary pecentage), then

Player 1 has A/A and player 2 has 6/6 they say the aces are 78% to win the hand, the percentage shouldn't change based on the lower pair value simply because there is still 2 cards in the deck that make the trip 6's a better hand than the pair of aces, and a third ace makes both pairs beaten just as bad. If your up against somebody with pocket Aces it doesn't matter what your pair is, you still have to catch the third one to beat the Aces.

If my logic here is wrong please feel free to correct me.

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penguinfan said:
If my logic here is wrong please feel free to correct me.

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yeh your wrong.

Your logic is not based on the principles of the average sequential shifts.

Hope that helps


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You also have to take into consideration the flush and straight factor.
If the suits of the pocket A's dont match the suits of the lower pair, the chance exists for the aces to lose to the flush.
same thing goes for straights
 

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You also have to take into consideration the flush and straight factor.
If the suits of the pocket A's dont match the suits of the lower pair, the chance exists for the aces to lose to the flush.
same thing goes for straights
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yeh penguin .

what marine said !


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I did not see the WPT (last night). In fact, I do not watch that program. However, if you the person you are refering to is indeed BOB STUPAK, you might cut the man a little slack.

STUPAK is a maverick in every sense of the word. He is a self-made man (admittedly with flaws). He build Vegas World and revolutionized the casino comp system. He over-extended himself when he build the Stratosphere and nearly wnet bankrupt in the process. Now, he's looking for "the next big thing," which may or may not come.

STUPAK is also a true gambler in the mold of a Benny Binion or a Jackie Gaughn. He was anti-corporate in the sense that he would gamble his joint and his personal fortune against anyone who wanted to play.

STUPAK also lived in the fast lane. One night about 10 years ago, STUPAK was racing home on his motorcycle (imagine the owner of a casino riding his own motorcycle on the streets of Las Vegas late at night). He slammed into a car moving through an intersection and was thrown 150feet, his body and face scurrying over the pavement. When STUPAK was brought in to the hospital, no one could believe the man was alive. His entire face had been ripped off. Some people thought he looked like a monster.

It took STUPAK a long time to recover. Years of reconstructive surgery, embarrassment, and humiliation in public. it took him years before he was comfortable enough to be seen in public again. He still remains very subconcious about his appearance and its impact on people.

When I dealt with him recently on the TV show, he wanted his own make up man to attend, not out of vanity but simply to look acceptable, like you and I to the audience.

STUPAK would be the first to admit he is a flawed man. But, for those of you who don't know his story, and think he's bad looking, I suggest you cut the man some slack.

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thanks for the story, Nolan! I researched him a little after yyz posted the name, but I didn't find that tidbit. I do wonder, however why he hasn't spent more time in jail for some of the things he has done. I knew he had to have had plastic surgery, now I know the reason, riding a cycle without a helmet. Seems like joker would be a good nickname for a poker player though.
 

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If I recall correctly, Stupak was the first man to place (or maybe to accept) a $1 million sportsbook bet on the Super Bowl about 20 years ago. Can't remember if his casino, Bob Stupak's Vegas World, is still on the strip. Never get down to that end. He and Steve Wynn led the charge to drive Vegas to the masses, recognizing that the whales were not the only profit opportunity. Unfortunately, Stupak wasn't as good a businessman as Wynn and wasn't presentable to Wall Street, so he didn't get the big financing that Wynn did.
 

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By Scott Dickensheets

Bob Stupak.

Phone tag with Bob Stupak can be a one-sided affair. Either you get an earful of voice-mail attitude--"The mailbox belonging to Bob Stupak is full. Please hang up"--or a load of static. At last, however, the static dissolves, the phone is answered and, two days before Christmas, you meet the Las Vegas legend in decidedly unlegendary surroundings--the Blue Diamond Saloon, a down-market grog spot on the southwestern edge of town.

"This is what I call one of my f---off days," he chuckles, explaining, rather needlessly, why he's drinking with an old friend at 2 p.m. on a Wednesday. The air is smoky and the jukebox unnaturally loud; the bar is decorated with holiday drunks. His friend asks, "Will you drop him off at my place when you're done?"

How does one sum up Bob Stupak in a brief intro like this? So many descriptives apply: builder of the startling and sublime Stratosphere Tower; offerer of suspect promotions at Vegas World; issuer of oddball challenges (daring Donald Trump to a round of Trump: The Game); improbable seeker of the mayor's office; slapper of impertinent TV reporters; bettor (and winner) of $1 million on the 1989 Super Bowl; near-fatal crasher of his motorcycle; purveyor of a mildly successful novelty Christmas tune ("Jake the Flake") with gal pal Phyllis McGuire; and holder of disputed Horseshoe casino chips.

Yet, for all his bravura, Stupak's ego isn't bulletproof. After your chat, as you drive him to his friend's place, he wonders, apropos Question No. 5, "What do you think my image is?"

If you could give the city any gift, what would it be?

That's a hard question. I always think that I already gave the city the ultimate gift [the Stratosphere Tower]. Every day, everyone who looks at it sees me. But I understand what you're saying. You know, the city is in great shape. But I'm from the old school; I liked it better when it was much smaller. I remember when chips were the same as cash--you could go down to pay your power bill or get your phone turned on. Way back then, you know, barbershops were open 24 hours a day. Shows were always 8 and midnight, then there was a 2 o'clock show, a 5-in-the-morning show. If there was anything I could give, it would be a return to the old days.

What do you think the future of the city's going to be like?

It's gonna get huge! [Laughs.] It needs diversification. I never believed that before. The casinos can't be the whole game anymore. Other things will come into play. I think the movie industry will come here. I think it will replace Hollywood, or be a close competitor to Hollywood. And there'll be others. We have to have something.

What role do you see yourself playing?

Perhaps building another place, something absolutely different. The last thing we need is another 100,000-square-foot casino with a box of rooms on top. Anything that happens now has to be, you know, "Las Vegasized." It has to be something that could only happen here. I've been exploring a couple of different areas like that.

What's it like to look up at the Stratosphere and know you're no longer involved in it?

I don't think of it like that. Every time I see it, I always think of it as mine. That's just the way I think. It established a great track record for me. The difference before the tower and after the tower is that I can call anyone and just about everybody will take the call. When I go to New York and talk to anyone, or meet with investment bankers, the conversation always gets around to the tower. I have to get that out of the way to talk about what I want to talk about. I still own a piece of it ... it'll never leave the portfolio.

What do you think your image in Las Vegas is?

It's impossible to have a bad story now. Years ago if there was a negative story, it could affect me for a day. It could make the day bad. But now I think I can do anything in Vegas. I think it's fun that way. But image-wise, I've always thought there are fans and nonfans, and the neutral is very small.

Did your motorcycle accident rearrange your outlook on life?

Yeah, simply because I discovered I wasn't infallible. Now I appreciate every day much more. It gives you a perspective on life itself. You wake up and you're alive. I mean, it's different, I'm easier now. I read old magazines from 10, 15 years ago, and I say, "Why did I say that? What was I thinking at the time to say those things?"

What do you have in your pockets right now?

I don't have any identification, I know that. I have my computer [an electronic address book]. Wonderful invention. Everybody's name is in here--and some names I would think are pretty impressive. I have their home number, their office number, their girlfriend's number, their cell-phone number. And then I have my telephone. And with those two things, I'm in the world.

Scott Dickensheets is the writer of a mildly successful novelty column for the Las Vegas Sun
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Stupak sure is a character

Stupak sure is a character

That is an interesting story on him.....He sold the Thunderbird Hotel in 2001, and for months later there were quirky news stories about lawsuits involving moon rocks and extortion charges stemming from the sale.

Last time I saw him playing was at US Poker Championships at Taj Palace in AC, December 1998. I went there for the Gatti/Robinson fight. Stupak didn't play very well, but he said his heart wasn't in it as he was morning the recent death of his freind Stu Ungar. Stupak said he was gonna stake Stuey to play some tournaments.



ever visit Vegas World? It was truly bizzare! Seemed to be decorated by some 4th grader with a hardon for space memorabilia and themes.

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