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17-13 ytd +30% ($1,500)

going to stick with no more than 10 plays this week.......

Here are the ones Im considering..... Still have a lot of work to do on these.....

Utah
Marshall
S Carolina
W Virg
BYU
Vandy
Ark
Mich State
Kentucky
Iowa
NC STATE
N Dame
Penn State
Illinois
Rutgers
Hawaii
Oregon
Florida State
 
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I think the Big Red smells blood and JoPa is headed for Shady Pines.

WVA / Cincy will be one hell of a contest.
 

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As of right now my top 3 plays of the week are in this order.....

1. Hawaii +21

2. Arkansas if I can get +14 or better

3. Illinois +10

still looking though, anyone have any good reasons not to play these three?
 

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When I first looked at the lines this week, your number 1 pick jumped out at me as well. I probably won't play it, but for no real tangible reason. Call it more of a feeling, but historically when Hawaii travels to the mainland, and plays quality opponents, they just get waxed. But based on everything I've read, and especially watched, I can't find any real reasons to back USC.

As I was watching the BYU/USC game this week, after that first quarter, I was thinking that we would have many, many good wagering opportunities against USC in coming weeks. Here are some of my thoughts on why I'll be against USC for the next month or so:

I first want to preface my thoughts with the statment that USC is a very good team. They've got a solid defense, pretty good kickers, an excellent offensive line, a star WR, and decent backfield skill. But they've got enough issues where the 'public' perception of this team does not quite meet up with real life.

After week 1, when USC totally demolished a potential national champion Auburn, USC was basically crowned as the superior team west of the Mississippi. Auburn's performance in week 2 showed us that maybe USC's dominance wasn't all that special, but that was long forgotten in the public's eye. And what was overlooked in that game is that USC offense didn't really do much. Mistakes by Auburn handed them most of their points.

In week 2, if people were merely looking at boxscores of BYU/USC, then they probably think that USC jumped out to a big lead, started coasting, and then turned in on at the end to secure the win. Nothing could be further from the truth. BYU made mistakes early and again handed USC most of their points (granted, USC did capitalize on them), but once they settled down, they played very competetively. Here's a brief recap in case you didn't see the game:

BYU held USC to 3 and out on their first series, but fumbled the punt at their own 21. After 2 plays that went nowhere, on 3rd and long, BYU forced QB Leinart to scramble, and he made a nice athletic play to find a receiver at the one, where USC subsequently scored. After a BYU punt, USC drove 30 yards to midfield (helped by 20 yards of BYU penalties), and got a quick hitter, slant pattern, that went to the end zone for a quick TD. After the kickoff, BYU's 2nd play was a little screen pass that was read nicely by USC, picked off, and returned for a TD. 21-0 at this point (something like 2:30 left in first quarter), but BYU wasn't really playing that poorly. Maybe USC let down at this point, but even though I had BYU in the game + 21.5, I was still confident they would cover. Enough rambling about this game, but from this point on, BYU played USC straight up and looked every bit as good in each facet of the game.

Another reason for USC to be overrated is their skill players in the backfield. Leinart is still young and doesn't throw the ball that well. They don't have a top 10 or top 20 running game to take all the pressure off him, and he'll make his share of mistakes. By the end of the season, this could change, but for the next 4 weeks or so, he'll still be a little shaky.

But IMO, the public thinks that USC will be playing for the Nat'l championship (and they may well be, but it will be the defense that gets them there), and they'll be asking them to cover high double digits for the next few weeks, but I don't think they have the offensive capabilities to consistently cover large numbers.

I think that USC does have more trouble defending the pass than the run, so Hawaii could put up some points, but Hawaii defense does not match up well with USC offense, and USC should be able to pound the crap out of them.

I really think that we'll have value against USC in their next two games, @Cal and @Arizona St. They'll probably be asked to lay 2TDs to Cal, and probably more than a TD to ASU.

mj
 

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thanks MJ-

Im not sold on USC yet, I dont think the numbers will be that high in the upcoming weeks maybe -10 against Cal and -7 against ASU and I agree that both might be good wagering opportunities, especially playing on ASU.

I think Hawaii will put up at least 17 on the Trojans this weekend and USC will score in the low to mid thirties:shrug: I am interested to see what the total will be on this one, if it is in the low 50's looks like a good number to play the over.
 

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chenker,
Hey,I am from Illinois. I have watched good portions of U of I's first two games (they actually just played my school). Also, I watched most of the UCLA-Colorado game. Having said that, I would be cautious about taking the Illini. I dont think they will be able to run the ball against the Bruin d. When clicking on all cylinders, Ron Turners' offenses can be high-powered. I just think that they will be forced into a one-dimensional attack. On top of that, it is their first true road game (Mizzou was split-crowd in neutral St. Louis). UCLA, on the other hand, pretty much outplayed a real decent Colorado team on their own field, with their backup QB. I think they will be able to move the ball more efficiently this week. On top of that, UCLA is playing their first home under their new coach, so I feel the players will be pumped up, especially after last week's tough loss. They won't want to fall to 0-2, at home against a mediocre team, especially with a trip to Oklahoma looming next week. UCLA has better lines and more playmakers, especially on D. Also, if it means anything, UCLA has covered their last 9 home openers. Take this for what its worth. I don't know yet if I will take UCLA, but I would be very nervous taking the Illini.
Let me know if there is any angle I am overlooking, I'm open to discussion.
GO CUBBIES!!!!!!

Johnny
 

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nice analysis, mjbarley.


i'm also looking at hawaii, waiting to see if line continues to rise.

chenker, for some reason i also am leaning to joe pa. i'm not too impressed with neb.,& think that penn. st. can't play a flatter game than last week.

good luck
 
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