mlb play for thursday afternoon..........

[gman2]

1 unit.....boston/oakland under 8.5 (+114) (pinnacle)

i think there'll be a little hangover affect from both teams early on - allowing zito and wakefield to go through the early innings unscathed. both bullpens got excessive work last night, but i dont think either pitcher will get hit hard enough to jeopardize the total (as a result of early bullpen entry). zito is nails in the playoffs. wakefield not exactly nails, but given whats at stake (a possible 0-2 series with a loss), i think the crafty knuckleballer finds a way to give his team a quality start. quick turnaround from a real late game last night to a mid-afternoon game today might hurt some bats.

 

[AnthonyRichkas]

GL

 

[Stang]

Day games on the west coast (if sunny) tend to have advantages for the pitchers (ie glare, shadows)
Good luck
I'm with ya

 

[gman2]

spang:

i agree on that point. ive noticed it to be particularly true in dodgers stadium and safeco. not sure if it has anything to do with the structure and/or directional facing of the park itself, but those shadows can be a bitch sometimes. cant say i know if oakland is one of those kinds of parks, but still feel like its a good under regardless

 

[Stang]

Remember last years series between Minny and Oak. As the games got later, the shadows did become a factor.

Good Luck

 

[Robbo]

Shadows are usually a factor on the west coast when you get those odd start times. For example a 5:00 start at Safeco or Dodger Stadium. I'm not too sure about a 1:00 start having much effect.

 

[Randercity]

If I'm not mistaken, HOME PLATE sits due WEST in OAKLAND, which may come into play late in game, depending on how fast the game goes. If ZITO is on, it may not matter much. Game could end early, but I do believe sun will cover HP by 3:30 or 4:00.

 

[RAYMOND]

thur

thur

yankees - twins over 8.5 2%

 

[RAYMOND]

wrong spot sorry g

 

[shamrock]

with Wakefield throwing 65mph shadows will have little affect from that side. Boston will try to get as much as possible from Wakefield today, if his knuckleball is working he will go as long as possible. Wakefield doesn't hold runners close, and obviously his time to the plate isn't that quick. Generally not a factor during the regular season, but runners can move up on him easy in post season when it matters.

This Oakland field plays like asphalt this time of year, any ball in gap is extra bases.

Faulke is not available today, weakening Oakland bp considerably.

8.5 seasons high for post season, and it generally would be, but I would be cautious playing the under 2 heavy.

If it wasn't for the wind blowing in & wet air in Oakland, personally I would be hitting the over

good luck
shamrock

 

[c20916]

I took the under, but after reading this I might buy it back

Wakefield has not fared well in ALDS play, going 0-2 with a 15.58 ERA in four career appearances, including two starts.

I know there are different circumstances here, but hopefully everyone is tired and the bats will be cold.

 

[Bombs]

I took Wakefield over 99 pitches, as Little would rather stick a hot poker in his ass than go to the pen. He'll leave Wakefield out there. Like this one. play.

 

[gman2]

good stuff guys. thanks for all the perspectives.

fwiw, olympic went from 8.5 over (-130) to 8.5 flat (-110) right before gametime.

pinnacle went from 8.5 over (-122) to 8.5 over (-112)

gl boys. enjoy the game

(bombs- i like that prop play. good logic. little aint goin to that pen unless its an absolute neccesity)

 

[Robbo]

What do u think that means? Since it was such a late move. I noticed Pinnacle but was unaware of Olympic.

 

[ontyme]

good pt about the hangover effect, i felt the same way, i'm sure the playeres are sore. And it is always good to see the line change before the game.

 

[gman2]

bombs:

nice hit on the wakefield prop. was that prop at olympic? a few of my other books arent posting props like they used to

 

[I'm Storming]

good call.

 

[Bombs]

That prop was at sportingbetusa.com. I deposited just to hit it. They have paid me before, but to get 5 dimes, I had to do 2500 a week. It's not a book I play regularly at.