Pedro the big baby loses it

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MAYBE..JUST MAYBE ...............

MAYBE..JUST MAYBE ...............

If The Fenway hooligans gets going, they'll push down the wall !

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British, with all due respect, please watch more baseball before starting ridiculous threads like this.
Pedro hitting Garcia had nothing to do with loading bases.!! He was getting lit up, 4 very hard hit balls in a row, nobody out. He was looking to make a statement & hit Garcia between the shoulder Blades. Called intimidation, has been part of the game forever, heard of Gibson, Drysdale Nolan Ryan?

Yankees were all over Pedro before that "purpose pitch" after that Yankees didn't have a base runner for over 4 innings.

And I am not even a Pedro guy, I have started numerous threads saying he isn't worth what Boston paid him.

Totally agreed with Hoops & yyz, Zimmer sought him out & took a swing at Pedro. Pedro should have just side stepped him, but Zimmer is as much to blame as Pedro is there.

Christ the Way your speaking this was a soccer game & and several hundred people died in a riot, calm down. LoL

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Good Luck on The Cubs and Yanks play..you good stuff on your page !

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I hope the groundstaff guy is going to be OK. I heard he's in hospital. Yes criminal charges should be brought against the Yankees players that were involved.

That said what was the guy doing in the pen anyway giving it verbals and shaking fist. That said what ever actions he said and made, doesn't equal getting a good slapping.


Why is it that when Pedro is on the mound for the Redsox and they play the Yankes it is he before anyone else that hits the batters. Wasn't it Sorriano and Jeter in succession earlier in the year. He proposily hit Garcia to load the bases for the next batter in a hope for a double play which he got.

I am also saying that Zimmer was wrong to go for Pedro but to push a 72 year old bloke to the floor is pathetic and childish. Why not step out the way. At 72 I am sure Zimmer couldn't stop and turn that quick.
 

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If zimmerman charged at me, I would have knocked his old head off.

man the sox's just CAN'T win:shrug:

GO RED SOX'S:D
 

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British Bulldog......have U ever played baseball...not counting little league??????????? UR whole perspective is wrong
 

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his old ass came out and rushed Pedro...he`s free game IMO. i usually never agree with hoops...but hes right when he says..

"Hey, what was Zimmer doing on the field and from the looks of it, basically rushing towards Pedro with an arm extended?"

pedro was simply defending himself...if he really wanted to beat his ass, he woulda came after him
 

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i wasn't gonna say anything but why would you have to defend yourself from an old man...i would've just stepped out the way..

just like if a girl rushed me like that, i wouldn't throw her on the ground, i would just stop her from hitting me by restraining her arms or simply walk away back into the dugout in this case
 

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hoops- So you would actually fight or so-called defend yourself against an old man. I would not grab an old guy by the head and throw him to the ground even if he was charging me. Come on an old guy like that . How bad is he going to hurt you. I don't care where I was at what the situation I would not of grabbed him by the head and threw him down. Only a pussy would react that way. OK bash on me all you tough guys who would say he came at me- he deserved what he got.


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Boston Shit ???
I was never a yanks fan.
After watching this game, I do hope the Yanks win the next two
in Boston.
What a bunch of jokers the Red Sox are.
Shame on them............

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pitching inside has always been a part of baseball. fletcher and others are right when they say nowadays players dive across the plate and don't really know how to get out of the way. you never see wanton headhunters like pedro and rocket in the national league where pitchers have to step up to the plate and reap what they sow. yet another reason to get rid of the dh, a bad rule that has taken away many of the intricate strategies of baseball.


as for zimmer, got to side with hoops and say zimmer had no business out on the field. i love zimmer and can't stand pedro, but a 300 lb old man bumrushing you might blind side you, knock you off balance and screw up a knee and ruin a career. i have to say i would have delicately put his fat ass on the ground too.

if baseball would install an automatic $10 k fine and one game suspension for leaving the dugout and crossing the foul line, i bet the bs would come to a stop.
 

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Nice to hear how all of you 'good' guys would compose yourself in the middle of one of the most heated games and rivalries in baseball, when nerves and adrenaline were probably off the charts. What Pedro did was neglible...pushed him to the ground which was definitely aided by Zimmer's bumbling. He didn't punch him or try anything else. Not sure how anyone can say in that situation with all the was going on that they would just calmly run away or somehow avoid the situation all together, when it was Zimmer, and Zimmer only, who instigated that physical confrontation. Like I said before, a no lose situation for Zimmer. So I guess he has free reign to go around whacking whoever he wants because he is 70 years old?

ESPN ARTICLE
BOSTON -- And don't be getting any crazy ideas, Phil Rizzuto, or you're next, old man.

With Pedro Martinez pitching against Roger Clemens, we all anticipated a great afternoon in the storied Yankees-Red Sox rivalry Saturday but no one -- absolutely no one -- expected the Jerry Springer Show to break out. As Clemens said after he and the Yankees beat Boston 4-3 Saturday in his final start at Fenway Park, "Gosh, when I told y'all it was going to be festive, I didn't know it was going to be this festive.''

Festive? The only thing missing was Clemens biting someone's ear off. But you never know. The series isn't over yet. Who knows what will happen Sunday in Game 4?

Will Manny Ramirez charge the mound when the ceremonial first pitch is thrown? Will Don Zimmer challenge Game 4 starter John Burkett to a Texas Cage Match? Will the Yankees bullpen teach those insolent batboys a lesson they'll never forget?

And then there's the biggest question of all: Will 84-year-old Johnny Pesky "Cowboy Up'' and whack Derek Jeter with a fungo bat?

I don't know, but nothing will top Game 3.

Stories from Saturday's game are going to be passed down (and exaggerated) from generation to generation but the best way to sum up the day is to say that the 72-year-old Zimmer left Fenway Park in an ambulance (somewhere Bill Lee is smiling) and the Boston police issued a dragnet for two Yankees players who allegedly fought a Red Sox groundskeeper in the bullpen.

All this transpired just because Pedro threw a pitch behind right fielder Karim Garcia's head and hit him in the back in the top of the fourth inning. And because Pedro faced the Yankees dugout and pointed to his head. And because Clemens had to be held back from storming the field. And because Garcia took out second baseman Todd Walker with a vicious late slide. And because Manny stepped menacingly toward Clemens after a pitch that was nowhere near him in the bottom of the fourth.

Oh, and because these two teams have hated each other for decades. The staggering moment from the game we will long remember however was in that amazing fourth inning, when the two great rivals were angrily storming the field, shouting obscenities and issuing threats -- and a seething Zimmer came racing around the bend, violently charging Pedro with such passion and energy that the Notre Dame Victory March should have been playing.

Now, imagine if you're Pedro in this situation. You're standing by the dugout and an enraged senior citizen is charging you and raising his arm to smack you in the head. If you fight back, you're going to get ripped for attacking a senior citizen. If you don't, the old man might clobber you and knock you out of a game your team needs to win. I don't know what you would do but Pedro coolly grabbed Zimmer by the head - it's hard to avoid, really -- and pushed him to the ground.

Given the situation, the reaction didn't seem out of line. As Boston reliever Scott Sauerbeck put it, "I don't care if the guy is in a wheelchair, you have to defend yourself.''

"Andy Pettitte and I went over there and I saw a bald head on the ground,'' Clemens said, delivering what may be the most bizarre quote in postseason history. "We weren't sure if it was Zim or (David Wells). I was like, Oh, my gosh, and he wasn't getting up. We went over and Andy and I were talking to Zim and we were just glad he was healthy, a man of his age. But that's Zim, he's got more fire than half those guys in the dugout and that's why I love him.''

Zimmer stayed on the bench the rest of the game and told reporters afterward that he was healthy enough to put on his clothes and eat dinner. He went to a local hospital in an ambulance for observation.

"That guy has a pair on him,'' Sauerbeck said admiringly of Zimmer. "Was what (Zimmer) did idiotic? Yes. Could he have hurt Petey? No.

"I think Petey handled himself pretty well. Petey could have hurt him. But he didn't. He tried to hold him up and he just sort of pushed him away and Zimmer fell down.

"It was kind of funny. It reminded me of when Tommy Lasorda fell down during the All-Star Game (in 2001). Zim hit the ground and he just kept rolling. It looked like he was rolling downhill. We thought he was going to roll into the dugout.''

People will excuse Zimmer because he's old and supposedly a lovable character (he isn't) but his behavior was disgraceful and inexcusable. Not that the Yankees agree. That's because they never think they're at fault whenever anything happens.

"Zim was probably out of line, too, but you have to consider his age,'' reliever Jeff Nelson said. "What, Pedro couldn't dodge him? The guy is 75 years old, how is he going to hurt you? You have to have more respect than that for someone like, an elderly man. You have to get out of the way.''

Nelson is one to talk. He was involved in such an ugly incident in the bullpen during the ninth inning that he may face arrest.
 

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Agree with Loophole 100% top to bottom.

Rameriz is lucky Don Drysdale wasn't pitching to him. Then he'd really have something to worry about.
 

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I will answer Skeeter first. Have I ever played baseball? The answer is Yes.

I play twice a week with American forces service guys at their bases. Not a great level but good enough for fun. Yes there are at times heated incidents when players let their frustration out but they are not made $millons to act like a prized pratt like Pedro is.

Now to the rest of you Boston fans who are so clearly narrow minded, rebates.

I personnally don't give a f--k for either Boston or the Yankees. Pedro is nothing but a sniffling jumped up little pratt who would last less than 1 minute on a soccer field with the action he took. In no time at all he would be stretchered off with a pair of broken legs. Now if I had been in that game last night the bat would have been used to hit him on the back of the head and then when he fell to the floor used accross his knee caps because a bully deserves the same punishment.

I have watched the incident about twenty times now and Pedro has about 5 yards of open space in which to avoid an advancing 72 year old guy who as Fletcher said waddled. If your not spritly enough to step out the way and let his momentum make him stumble then I am sorry, your nothing but a spoilt brat who clearly needs to be taught a lesson.

Should I send a message to the Boston Redsox web site asking Pedro and his buddies to visit England and meet the "head-hunters". He sure wouldn't come back to the USA to pitch next year unless they allow Zimmer frames on the mound (no pun intended).

BUT THERE AGAIN WHY SHOULD I BOTHER BECAUSE THAT WILL ONLY BE STOOPING TO THE AGE AND IQ LEVEL OF PEDRO, THAT WILL BE SIX FOR BOTH.

I am not saying Garcia was right or Nelson for their action and these guys should face criminal chargers. You cannot attack a fan/groundsperson for the sake of it. Garcia should also be fined for charging Nixon at second base, totally un-called for.

HOWEVER, one must ask why was that groundsperson in the bullpen in the first place giving it all with the clinched fist. He wasn't requested to come in and make good the mound, he chopse to enter the pen by choice not by instructions, so I suppose he deserved a good kicking because he was there to incite the fans around the pen and try and cause a disruption as well as starting an ugly incident. If people want to do this kind of thing they should be able to handle themselves, not fall to the floor and take it and then cry foul. This guy had one intention only and that was to cause trouble which back fired as he clearly got a hiding and came out second best, much like Boston will in this series. I read today he has been suspended from the ground crew team because he was not acting under the crew chiefs instructions.
 

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I know what Roger Neilson(or any hockey coach would do). First inside pitch I'd send my assistant coach out to attack the other team's pitcher. They both get thrown out. Who wins???

It's an old hockey trick, send your goon, or worst player after the other team's star. If they both get penalties, who is the winner?

What would you do if the other team's bench coach attacked your team's best player? What if Pedro was the one who got hurt, in this instance, after all he was the one who was attacked??
 

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didnt call Zimmer the "deisgnated gerbil" for nothing ... Pedro didnt do anything 99% of people in world wouldnt have, gingerly shove a fossil into the turf--what else was he to do, run like a lil girl seeing a frog?

it was the most entertaining thing ive seen in sports since lasorda doing his astaire in the all-star game

enjoy it :)


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CHECK OUT ZIMMER TAKE ON PEDRO...
rtsp://necn.mirror-image.com/media/video/101203_pedro_12p.rm

what an idiot!~:thefinger
 
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where was this British polesmoker dude when the Randall Simon incident took place this summer? that was a far more despicable display of behavior than Pedro's Dominican Pig Toss

get a grip, Bloke
 
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