WOW is that Cubs fan screwed...

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I like every other Cub fan wanted to ring the kids neck even though it wasn't his fault for the melt down. I was listening to the Score on AM radio and he has got police guarding his house and there is alot of rag shows outside his house like inside edition and so on. This is going to ruin his life forever if they happen to lose tonight. I bet right now he his the biggest Kerry Wood fan of alltime. Like someone said in a different thread that about 2 months ago if you told me the Cubs were going to be in the NCLS with Wood going in game 7 everybody would said HELL YA. The kid looked nerdy and everyone who knows him will give some paper or rag show his name and address and he will most likely be assaulted for a game -yes a game. I feel the pain of being a CUB fan but I think someone from the Cubs organiztion should step up and cut the kid some slack.


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PS if they do lose tonight what CUBS fans are with me to hunt him down. LOL that is a joke.
 

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Man in stands described as diehard fan
October 15, 2003

BY ANNIE SWEENEY, FRANK MAIN AND CHRIS FUSCO




The man some fans blame for Tuesday night's Cubs loss because he reached out and touched a foul ball that Moises Alou was trying to catch is a diehard Cubs fan who coaches youth baseball in the north suburbs.


Steve Bartman, 26, works at Hewitt Associates, an international consulting firm in Lincolnshire.

"He is an associate at Hewitt, and he is not coming to work today because of the incident," Suzanne Zagata-Meraz, a spokeswoman for Hewitt, said this morning. "That was a decision that Steve and [Human Resources] made together. We have been in contact with Steve."


A man who answered the door at the Northbrook home where friends and a neighbor said Bartman grew up defended him, saying he only did what came naturally when a foul ball came his way.


"He's a huge Cubs fan," said the man, who responded to "Mr. Bartman." "I'm sure I taught him well. I taught him to catch foul balls when they come near him."


He declined to say any more and would not confirm what relation he is to Steve Bartman.


A neighbor, Ron Cohen, said he has known the Bartman family for 20 years. He and others said Bartman was a graduate of the University of Notre Dame who played for and is now a coach for the Renegades, an elite youth baseball club in Niles.


Cohen said he saw Bartman on Sunday and that Bartman told him then that he had tickets to Tuesday's game.


"He felt great he got tickets to the game," said Cohen, 63.


Cohen was watching the game on TV with his son, who grew up with "Stevie," when they recognized the man in the Renegades shirt.


"I really was just surprised," said Cohen, who called Bartman's mother. "I think it's just a natural tendency. Everybody reaches. I'm not trying to defend him, but I think it's just a natural tendency. He may not have seen Alou coming."


He described Bartman as a baseball fanatic.


"He's a good kid, a wonderful son, never in any trouble," Cohen told a Sun-Times reporter. "I don't think he should be blamed at all. People reach for balls. This just happened to be a little more critical. If Florida didn't score all the runs, you wouldn't be standing here."


A parent whose son played baseball for the Renegades last year echoed Cohen's description of Bartman.


"He was a fine guy. He was a good baseball coach to my son," said Roger Shimanovsky, 41. "Believe me, I'm sure nobody feels worse about this than him."


Bartman is listed as a coach of the Renegades' 13-year-old team this year, according to the organization's Web site.


He also was a player on a 1992 Renegades team that finished with 47 wins and 10 losses. The team was the Palatine League champion and the Pekin Fourth of July tournament champion.


The home where Bartman grew up backs up to a baseball field where his dad would hit pop-ups for him and his friends to catch, said Ron Cohen's son, Gary Cohen, 34. He said Bartman's favorite player growing up was Cubs second baseman Ryne Sandberg.
 

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Some guy yelled during the game, 'your lucky your not in Boston, you would be killed right now for what you did.....'
 

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i'm listening to Wally & The Keeg show on ESPN Radio..and they vehemently state that the fan inteference had " NO BEARING " on the game.

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Re: WOW is that Cubs fan screwed...

just cover said:
I like every other Cub fan wanted to ring the kids neck even though it wasn't his fault for the melt down. I was listening to the Score on AM radio and he has got police guarding his house and there is alot of rag shows outside his house like inside edition and so on. This is going to ruin his life forever if they happen to lose tonight. I bet right now he his the biggest Kerry Wood fan of alltime. Like someone said in a different thread that about 2 months ago if you told me the Cubs were going to be in the NCLS with Wood going in game 7 everybody would said HELL YA. The kid looked nerdy and everyone who knows him will give some paper or rag show his name and address and he will most likely be assaulted for a game -yes a game. I feel the pain of being a CUB fan but I think someone from the Cubs organiztion should step up and cut the kid some slack.


just cover

PS if they do lose tonight what CUBS fans are with me to hunt him down. LOL that is a joke.


Very well said and in total agreement.....:yup
 

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I have been fighting a pretty bad cold so I missed the game and the highlights can some give me some details on what happen.
Was there 2 outs when it happen?
Was there no doubt that the ball was catchable?
 

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The media isn't handling this well at all and should be held accountable if something happens to the guy. His picture is plastered all over the place and the media is concerned about his welfare?

WTF is wrong with that?

People need to get their priorities in order.
 

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I think there was only one out when the fan messed up the play.

Yes I think the ball was catchable, but the error on the shortstop is what really got the rally started.
 

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Yes, there was one out when this happened. I also agree that this had little bearing on the outcome of the game, but I would not say no bearing.

Two batters later, Gonzalez booted a double-play ball. Now it could be argued that Gonzalez was possibly in more of a hurry to field and throw the ball in that situation, because he knew he could potentially turn a double play, but had to do it quickly. If there were two outs in that situation, he'd only have to get one baserunner out; maybe he'd have fielded the ball cleanly. Maybe not. We'll never know, but it IS possible. In any event, Gonzalez's error was far more hurtful than the missed catch in left field in my opinion. Gonzalez if anyone should be getting the heat. (I never liked the guy anyways in all the years he played in Toronto. He was error-prone as hell back then and cost the Jays many games, but I guess that is besides the point).

As for the media...the TV crew last night was almost inciting violence against this fan. They SAID they were concerned...but OVER and OVER again they kept saying "well we don't want to make too much of a big deal over this, but I REALLY hope nothing happens to that fan"...all the while zooming in on the kid repeatedly. If they REALLY didn't want anything to happen to him, why did they repeat several times? You do that, maybe you give people at home ideas to look the guy up. But you're not helping the situation; the people in the stadium can't hear you.
 

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lmao - they had a chance to finish this in game 7 and they are blaming this guy?! WTF.....8 runs in 1 inning???? Sorry ass pitching if you ask me! blame them selves - they got owned!
 

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I agree with what most have said in this thread.

What is certain is that the lad would have had his eyes on the ball that was heading in his direction. The ball dropprd into the stands, therfore being game ball to any spectator in the vacinity. Alou was not guaranteed to have caught the ball. And at no time did the fan see Alou coming as his eyes were fixed on the ball.

I would guess that this goes on every day of the week during the regular season. If clubs dont want fans to cause interference they should close the first three rows off allowing foul balls to be possibly caught in the front row of the stands.

But WTF, clubs would rather see someone possibly hounded out of their home than lose money. That is lack of respect to the community who support their ballclub.

Now if I owned the Cubs, I would give this lad a free season ticket for next year and allow him to make the first pitch on opening home game day. That would show the rest of Chicago and the reporters that they don't hold him accountable.
 

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Thats a great idea Bulldog,

I think Steve Bartman should also go on the talk show circuit or even Larry King and tell his story. I really feel sorry for this guy, I mean look at his face in the picture, he obviously felt terrible. You know all we've been hearing now is crap about this goat curse. I think now i think the proper use of the word "goat" here in this situation would be......"scapegoat". Please Chicago...Stop punishing this guy....he's already doing it to himself!
 

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Update here from Chicago

Update here from Chicago

As the day passed, general consensus and talk on the sports shows is saying the correct stuff. The actual culprit for the Cubs demise after being up 3-1 in the series is now being brought out into the light. It's the same guy that lost last years World Series. The same guy that had nobody up in the pen in game six when Prior started to slip a bit (as was called out by Steve Stone on the radio telecast). (Smart) People have had time to digest what has happened and have dismissed the foul ball incident. Not totally, but downgraded it's significance in the grand scheme of the failure. The real hero of the Cubs success this season was their GM, Hendry, who's late season acquisitions came through in stellar fashion. Moves which cost the team nothing as far as loss of talent. Baker has been over-rated for a while and was brought here by the Tribune Co IMHO because he has had experience with egotistical superstars in the past. :thefinger

Just want to let all know that, in general, there still exists good baseball minds in this city.:D
 
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