Big Blue.....in trouble

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Are in trouble today.
Minny -5.5 over Giants
Always seems like when the Giants are in trouble they upset someone and play great.In the past its always happened.
But my Big Blue are in real trouble.
Ranked last or almost last in many defensive catogories they are going against the "high octane" offense of Minny.Minny is 6-0 because they finally play some defense and lead the league in turnover ratio,ints,fumble recoveries,etc.
Giants secondary and OL are in shambles.OL is led by rookies Diehl,Lucier, and Roehl.Allen an Hatch are 2nd yr players.With injury to Seubert everyone is playing "musical chairs" with positions.Thier young and inexperinced are are susposed to open holes for Barber and protect Collins.Tough task in the "dome" away from home with all the noise.I see about 5 or 6 OL men jumping getting penalties.
Secondary with Peterson out and Ralphie Brown and rookie Walters replacing him is bad. Jint defense cannot stop anyone.Crossing patterns kill them.Short 5 yd passes turn into 25 yd gains.With Moss add another 40 yds to that.
Jint offense is so bad.Collins again had the ball knocked from him.Today again.Jints have run the ball 163 times and passed 265 times.They have had 2 plays over 20 yds this yr.Moss almost avg's that.They have scored 2 Td's in the last 14 quarters.
They have lost 2 games because of specail team plays with kickoffs and punts.
Last weeks punt return goes down into the top 5 Boxes Hall of Fame losses.Unreal.But I had the under and Philly +3.
I could go on and on.I didn't even mention Dante yet.I believe Moss was mentioned just onec.
No need.You all know that.
You might not know that Collins shaved his mustache and beard.Tiki has worked all week on fumblitis drills and Fassell has realized his best running back has been benched 5 games.Dorcey Levins looked great.Toomer hasn't seen the ball in a few weeks.Shockey is hurting and still mental.
Big blue today in the Metrodome go down by 2 tds or more.
Dante and co will struggle a little and then the Jints will give up huge plays.And the Giants also lead the league in giving up the biggest plays on defense.

Minny -5.5 over Jints.... 5 boxes
Titans -4 over Jags........2 boxes....McNair rolling over everyone
Bears-Lions..under 37...1 boxes

Am 4-1 capping my Giants this yr.Career wise 4-55.Maybe even worse.They should be at least a TD dog.Many have this game as their breakout one.Lyr they handled Minny offense.Held them to a few 1st downs,etc.But Minny plays defense now. Minny 27-10.
Usaually don't play boxes in NFL.But had a lot over from yest so I can be bold
 

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i`m on your boys today.....i think it`s good that they are away from home,here....

this club out first downed their last 3 opponents something like 25-12 their last 3 games against very good competition......even with a thin offensive line.....miami,philly and new england....they just seem to shoot themselves in the foot....last week they held philly to under 150 yards total offense...it`s incredibly hard to lose three games in a row given their offensive domination...

i could be way off...but,if they play one game without the mistakes,i think the flood gates will open...this is a very,very good offense...

i think minny is playing way over their talent level....

the giants could get blown out....but,i think they play well in a spot where everyone has all but given up on them....

this isn`t a bad team...
 

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Box, you probably know this, and probably don't care, but it's interesting to note that many services have the Giants as a big play today, GOM, etc. Good luck with your plays!
 

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Re: Big Blue.....in trouble

Box and one said:
.Career wise 4-55.Maybe even worse.

Funny stuff!! Resembles my Notre Dame capping record. The last time I saw you worried about Moss against those weak NY defensive backs, I remember a 41-0 Giant Win !!! :)

I believe that the spread on this game assumes the Giants lose the TO battle by 2 and I think Minnesota is very beatable when they don't get the breaks
 

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NICE WRITEUP, I AM A BIG GIANTS FAN AND HAVENT FOLLOWED THEM AS MUCH SINCE MOVING TO FLORIDA. SEEMS TO ME THEY NEED TO GET RID OF THE WHOLE COACHING STAFF. THEIR PLAYING CALLING IS AWEFULL, THEY RUN OUTSIDE ON WHEN THEY SHOULD RUN UP THE MIDDLE AND THEY JUST SEEM TO MISS EVER OPPURTUNITY THEY HAVE.

STILL THINK THEY WIN THIS GAME,

BTP
 

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Just my 2 cents worth and I want my change back

Being a vikes fan? Never seems to be easy...

I was, and still kinda am a critic of coach Tice. I think he's a blockhead. But, Part of that maybe atribbuted to his tenor under the sheriff. Denny.

I have to give him credit thou. He has been talkin about the way he wants and expects these guys to play. You never wouid have heard deny talking about challanging his players. He was to busy services the boys:rolleyes:

I'm getting sense that if these guys even think about letting down. He's going to do what he did last week and get right in there face and tell them what he thinks of there play. Another thing Denny never would have done. Puttting the fear of god in some of these players I believed has helped make this team better.

And it shows!

I never would have expected to see them play as well has they have. Shit! I keep waiting for them to lose!:shrug: Figure that out?

But I have been thinkin about this game. And really have to ride the wave of the Tice train here. He's going to make sure these girls are ready and for their sake I hope they are:D

Vikes and the points! Hopefully..

GL!
 

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thanks guys.I know everyone is on the Giants today.Services,newspapers writers,etc.
Damn,BobbyBlueChip,you got a memory. As I was capping this week on this game that's all I was thinking.A few yrs ago I was all over Minny and the Jints kicked their ass.
But Jints didn't have 4 rookies on the OL and Db's named Ralphie.
C'mon how many Ralphies are in the NFL.
And I know one of you out there is named Ralph but I have nothing against your name.
Peterson was a good corner who stopped the run.Ralph has speed but is not a tackler.
And peterson was arrested last nite in NYC.
I know the Giants are better then their record.Breakdowns on both sides of the line are occuring.And they can come out and play Minny tough.
But OL and def backfield has to many problems.Thats the key.Collins can have finally hit Toomer and co.But OL will breakdown and O;Leary has done a good job as Def coord of Minny.
Sticking to my guns.
You hear that BobbyBlue.damn,you got a good memory. GL
 

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gl BOx

gl BOx

personally, i hate the nfl card, cant find one game i even like

that said, I do think people are "guessing" once again thru trends, voodoo, whatever that Vikes and KC are "due" to lose, I even posted this on MNF, anyhow, GL, I think Vikes will beat Gints too and KC will beat Bills, public giving you extra pts now


take care--great job yest in cfb :)

gregg


ps (jazz over 23.5; carmelo to lead rookies in scoring)
 

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Good Luck Box, appreciate the write ups as always...


Raz
 

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"When you make a mistake admit it.If you don't you only make matters worse" Ward Cleaver

Am now 4-2 ats with Giants.My bad.Giants looked terrible but Minny looked worse.Was way off.Bluechip,I guess I don't learn.Giants look so much faster in the Dome turf.Collins could of thrown 3 more Td's if he set up.OL played real well.Minny front 4 never pressured him until last quarter.Tice is a dumb coach.Thought he got better.They never blitzed and let Collins have the pocket.
Terrible pick and job.My bad.
I'll play KC tonite for a small play.
 
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