Some Insight Into Tonight's Total (tcu/lou)

Mick Onofrio

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I think the oddsmakers are taking tonight off. They made enough money last night to get them through a bad weekend. The reason I believe this is the TOTAL is dead on the average of points scored between these two teams throughout the season. The Listed total is 51 and I have seen it as low as 50. Now taking the total points scored in all games between these two teams in all 8 games each has played and combining them to formulate an average between them you will come up with this number: 50.945
TCU thru 8 games has scored 227 Points and given up 151
The average total of points scored in TCU games is 47.26

Louisville thru 8 has scored 278 and given up 159
The average total of points scored in Cardinal games is 54.63

Combined you will get 50.945


BUT>>> AND THAT'S A BIG BUT!!!

What these teams do within conference USA is a whole 'nother story.

Within the Conference:

TCU in 5 games has scored 167 and given up 124
That's an average total of 58.20 points in TCU conference games.

Louisville in 4 games has scored 145 points and given up 89
That's an average of 58.50 points in Cardinal Conference games.

COMBINED THESE TWO TEAMS ARE TOTALING 58.35 POINTS BETWEEN THEM WITHIN CONFERENCE USA MATCHUPS. This would give up 7-8 Points of value with the OVER. Oddsmakers hardly ever look at Inter-Conference numbers, but instead look at season totals and averages. The number they came up with for a total just tells me they punched a few numbers into their computers and...VOILA!!! They came up with the same 50-51 that my calculator comes up with.

Another startling stat is TCU's conference games have accounted for 74% of their total points scored this year. 74%!!!! I know 5 games out of eight have come within the conference and I know last week's shootout with Houston inflates this, but just 62.5% of their games(5 of 8) have accounted for 74% of their offense (167 of 227 points) This tells me their offensive approach works against their conference foes or they are more comfortable running their schemes against familiar opponents. Moreover, they are giving up almost 6 more PPG within the Conference which I believe is once again due to familiarity. Teams are used to seeing the Defensive looks from TCU and are not intimidated or have built game plans to counteract the agressiveness of the Horned Frog Def.

Looking at Louisville, I find another team that is very comfortable versus Conference Opponents. In fact...defensively they are tougher than TCU within C-USA, giving up over 2 PPG less than the Frogs. Offensively they are very comfortable averaging 36.25 PPG in 4 C-USA games this year. TCU is averaging 33.40 PPG within the Conference. I'll Break down the stats once again for both teams within C-USA games:

TCU Games are totaling out at 58.20 ppg in 5 Conference Games.
Lou Games are totaling out at 58.50ppg in 4 Conference Games.


As for my Side Calculations they go like this:
Actual Vegas Line: TCU -2
Average Calculated Line: TCU -4.13
Predictor Method Variation: 12.64 Points

Analyzing these numbers it would look to the naked eye that you are getting value in TCU as the play, but the HUGE variation between Methods makes this one a NO PLAY. A few methods have Louisville Favored and the strongest method, in my opinion, PURE POINTS, has Lousivlle as a 2.68 Point Favorites.

Note: In their last two meetings over the past two years, their only meetings in history...TCU has handled Louisville rather easily in high scoring games. Lousiville was obviously a Public Team then as they still appear to be, but the TCU ranking might throw people off. AS for my opinion on tonight's game I believe the best possible betting situation is OVER 51. But I will wait to see where, if any, line movemnet takes this total. Even at 51 I still see over 7 points of value based on these two teams style of play within C-USA...Back Later with more thoughts...
Mick
 

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FWIW: My numbers indicate a total score of 52-64 points in this game. The problem is that this game could be more about defense, and that brings the total down to 41-44 points. Anybody else think this may be a defensively controlled game?
 

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I can get 50

I can get 50

50 for a total with just about every Online Offshore and Local...I will wait to feel it out for a while 1st though. I'm off to the Casino(Tourist Trap) to play a little Roulette. On Monday's I play Blackjack, Tuesdays I mess with the Dice, and Wednesdays is always Roulette Parlay Day where I make a $10 Bet on whatever Dozen just came up and I try to win 2-in-a-row. It sounds easy but it's not. At a 2-1 Payout I try to win my first $10 bet which gives me a profit of $20. I pull my initial bet of 10 off the dozen and let my profit of 20 ride on the same dozen I hit it on. The whole Idea is to win 2 bets in a row and follow the wheel. Once you lose 2 bets in a row you are done so my losses are minimal if any at all. The most I can lose it 20 buck. If I hit the first two bets I have turned $10 into $80 and will start over with a $10 starting bet again. It's not easy to hit this or go on a run but I basically get extremely hot once a month and believe it or not this has shown the most profits for me over the past two years. The idea is to keep the bets small, hit and run, or walk away a small loser. All three are easy to talk about but hard to follow through on. The reason my betting schedule is put together this way is based on casino odds as the weekday progress towards the weekend. Playing Blackjack after wednesdays is like donating money to a lost cause. Good Luck tonight fellas,
Mick
 

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Mick - I read your posts all the time and really appreciate your insight. Off the topic of tonights game, just curious about why you think playing blackjack after Wed's is like making a donation?
 

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MICK We are thinking of going to one of the casino's in Cn. We are not sure which one is better if there is one that is better. Also you mentioned that in one some of the games have a small advantage over the other. If it's not to much trouble maybe you can Email me and give me some info. My address is[xxxxxxxxx edit by admin]. I tried to get yours here but couldn't. Thank you.
 

Bjax

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mick.......

i totally agreed with you on the total for tonights game...i had been looking at some similar stats all week.....until i saw the weather for tonight....been raining all day and 60% chance of more tonight...do you think the weather will affect tonight

bjax
 

Mick Onofrio

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weather is always a factor...

weather is always a factor...

I will have to look into this. Sometimes slick conditions = turnovers which usually lead to points. Sometimes slick conditions = conservative play calling which lead to less Points. I like how each team balances out their running and passing. Maybe we'll get a situation where people overreact to a little foul weather and bet the total down some. We'll see. Good Luck.
Mick.
 

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Spreader...1st i'm passing on the total on this game and may decide on the 2nd half ..but i think TCU has NO CHOICE but to control the ball. i think they can and will control the clock...
If i had to make a choice under the coniditions...i'd lean to the under play fwiw.
 

Mick Onofrio

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Casinos call it supply and demand, you know...when the raise the minimums on the tables at all hours of the day and night. They also call it supply and demand when they start dealing out of 8 decks on Thurs-Suns instead of 6 decks. Being a counter it's obviously easier keeping track of cards from less decks and Thursdays thru Sundays you get a lot more buses and High Rollers (Or as I like to call them, BIG LOSERS) that take the place by storm. They jack the odds even more against your favor because they know they have got you there and they you know you are gonna play no matter what. I always recomment at BlackJack tables at these Two Indian Casinos is to play the lowest minimum tables possible and start upping your bets based on your success. If you lose 2 hands in a row get up, walk around, have a Krispy Kreme Donut(Mohegan Sun) and let the action come to you. Don't force yourself around the action. Look for and figure ways to spot who the tourists are and who the real players are. It's tough at first but in time you will know without even thinking. The guy at the blackjack table that is more concerned about what other people are doing with their hands rather than his own is typically an amatuer that has read on too many books on gambling. Look for the old timers that mind their own business and flock to their tables. Avoid cheerleaders because they are so used to losing, winning becomes something to go crazy about because it happens so seldom. This especially applies to the dice. You can find some real losers tossing the dice.
 

Mick Onofrio

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I called it in...

I called it in...

OVER 50 (TCU/Louisville)
Risking $110 to make $100
Small Play

Anything can happen in this game, but I think the higher probability play is the over because it's obvious to me the oddsmakers put very little thought into this one.
 

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Great to see analysis behind the pick. BTW, that is a hell of a lot of gambling you do. After a few days in Vegas, I usually start to get bored by it, unless of course Im winning big. :)
 

Mick Onofrio

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2 scores away

2 scores away

From covering both bets...one hell of a contest, would be even better without the Louisville Penalties. Never under J.L.Smith was this team so lacking in discipline. OVER looks good.
 

Mick Onofrio

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And....

And....

It's over already OVER 48 and OVER 50 all on one play for a $200 night, good luck to the rest of you guys with side action,
Mick.
 

Mick Onofrio

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You can bet the house on this one...

You can bet the house on this one...

I'll be up all night working hard on putting together another winning week. That is a LOCK. Thank you Insomnia.
 
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