saturday 11/15/03 ncaa football plays............

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4* plays = 0-1 (-4.4 units)
2* plays = 15-7 (+16.5 units)
1* plays = 20-20 (+1.11 units)
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saturday 11/15/03.......3:30pm EST
3 units.......kansas state (-1) over nebraska
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saturday 11/15/03........3:00pm EST
2 units......northern illinois (-2.5) over toledo
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saturday 11/15/03........6:00pmp EST
1 unit......bowling green/kent state over 58.5
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saturday 11/15/03........1:00pm EST
1 unit.....eastern michigan (+10.5) over ball state
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saturday 11/15/03 12:30pm EST
1 unit......south carolina (+7) over florida (write-up below)
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saturday 11/15/03 3:30pm EST
1 unit.....purdue/ohio state under 40
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saturday 11/15/03 7:45pm EST
1 unit......alabama (+7.5) over lsu
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saturday 11/15/03 2nd half play
1 unit......texas tech (+10) over texas
horns capable of blowing tech out, but i dont see it happening.
raiders always a backdoor threat and they survived the texas
haymaker in the 1h. theyre still in the game and i think the game hangs around 14-17 points.
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kansas state......when constructing an argument, i think its important to maintain objectivity and concede a few points when certain things are just flat out against you. it allows for your view to gain credibility. so right off the bat, im going to make a few concessions to the opposing side. kansas state's schedule has been weak to this point and they have no wins that really stand out as quality wins so far. i simply cant argue that they do. that being said, i still think this is a solid kansas state team, and one that can be explosive when they get going. i dont see any explosiveness on the nebraska side. while much is made of the fact that kansas state has no real notable wins, nebraska hasnt exactly had a schedule of world beaters either. they won an ugly season opener against okie state and got blasted by texas in their only two games vs ranked teams. so the scheduling variable is a wash in this game. yeah snyder scheduled some mutants this year, but solich wasnt exactly playing a notre dame-esque schedule (troy state? utah state?). i really think the line tells me a lot here. vegas hangs a (-1) on this game with kansas state the opening favorite. nebraska is the higher ranked team (huskers #15, wildcats #25), nebraska has a better overall record, and the huskers are playing at home. yet kansas state is installed as the favorite. im not by any means saying kansas state is anti-public. thats stupid. its head scratching when some try to convince themselves that theyre fading the public on games where theres split money. i dont see there being a public side in this one. both teams are high profile teams and are attractive for their own reasons. but the line at kansas state (-1) tells me a lot. and i think kansas state is a much better and much more versatile than nebraska. lord has yet to show me he can win a big game. sproles ran well against a tough texas defense (24 for 128). im confident he can be effective vs the husker D. roberson has been a little interception prone, but ill still take my chances with him over lord any day. worth noting that wildcats have won the total yardage battle in every single one of their games this year. sometimes it means something, sometimes it doesnt. in their case, turnovers have done them in. if they take care of the ball, i dont see nebraska being able to stop the cat offense. kansas state for me. pretty strong play.
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northern illinois.....normally hellah and i concur on a lot of top mac plays, but i just gotta go the other way here. toledo has been a cash cow at the glass bowl the last few years, but im seeing niu as the superior team and i think they will get it done. theres a few fundamental things i cant overlook. toledo's defense is giving up way way too many yards the last few weeks. to give up almost 1,000 total yards and 67 points the last two weeks to buffalo and ball state -- thats just inexcusable and not conducive to winning big games. northern illinois gameplan is going to be pretty simple. lots of michael turner right from the get go. and thats another reason i cant back toledo here. the two teams that came out and aggressively ran the ball at toledo gave the rockets major problems (unlv and syracuse). a case can be made that those are teams from bigger conferences, but unlv sure as hell aint a world beater, and syracuse is a mid-level big east team. an upper-tier mac team should be able to win those game. cuse ran the sh1t out of the ball to the tune of 307 yds and 6.7 yds a carry. vegas ran the ball for a handful of yards. and even eastern michigan, who likes to run, had success with sherrell running it. the bowling green game seemed to serve as a wakeup call to the huskies. they tuned up nicely for this game with consecutive blowouts. turner really torched this toledo defense last year as well (41 carries for 213 yards). working against me in this one is toledo's seemingly impeccable record at the glass bowl the last few years. its not an easy place to win. rockets have beaten mac opponents and power conference foes alike. niu is going to have their hands full. but im confident that the bgsu game refocused them for the stretch run. turners torched this defense before. im expecting a sound performance from niu and a win and cover here. game will be won and lost on defense. both teams can score. but when it gets down to nut cutting time, northern illinois has shown the ability to get stops. toledo hasnt. thats just the way i see it.
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bowling green/kent state over 58.5........no earth-shattering logic here...bowling green was in a similar spot last year where they got bounced from the top 25 on the road, then came home and fine-tuned their offense by scoring 63 points the next time out. and with the way kent's matador defense is performing, bgsu is capable of dropping half a hundred on em. doesnt seem like the flashes are even trying to play defense at this point in the season. in their last 5 gms, theyve allowed an avg. of 37ppg. it seems kent is content to play an uptempo game where cribbs can run around create stuff and try to win shootouts. falcons clunker on national tv last week probably keeps this total under 60. should be a lot of points in this one, especially with two most athletic quarterbacks in the mac going head to head.
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eastern michigan......this truly qualifies as a game capped solely on "feel". im going simply on what i see. and last week, i was actually impressed with emu's energy in their game against central florida. for a team that had endured a rough season, had just fired their coach, and was playing in front of basically nobody in the stands- the eagles were flying around and playing enthused football. not to be hyperbolic, but it was really quite impressive. it seems like the players have responded to interim coach lavan. ive also been impressed with emu rb sherrell lately. i never knew this kid was that good. 6 straight 100 yd games, including 117 yds vs maryland and 187 yds vs bowling green, both of whom are in the top 25 in rushing defense. ball state has been prone to giving up lots of rushing yardage, and playing their 3rd road game in as many weeks probably wont do much to help. i think emu has a legit shot to win outright. if they bring the same energy that they brought vs central florida last week, they should cover with no problem. that being said, im keeping this play at one unit because, well.......this IS eastern michigan. but i really feel like this is a good play
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i`ve been kickin` that k st game around in my head and i feel like you might have the right side here....not quite the usual k st powerhouse,but,i believe nebraska `s a bit of a straw man.....a one dimensional straw man,at that.....

i think i needed to see somebody slap it up there in black and white....

thanks for the push....

btw...the bowling green/kent over looks interesting,also....

g.l.
 

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west cost/ california guys:

looking for some info on the san jose state/ fresno rivalry. my question is just that. is it a rivalry? the proximity of the schools says so, but has san jose ever beaten fresno in recent years? this is a spot where i actually might lay some rare DD chalk, but i dont want to do it if sjsu has been gearing up for this game the last month. any thoughts? does either school really consider it a rivalry? thanks. i guess im just asking because proximity doesnt always equate to rivalry. toledo and eastern michigan are like a half an hour or 45 minutes away but i dont see families torn over an emu/toledo game. im sure you understand my reason for asking.
 
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Gman2

Totally agree with your K State Pick!
Nebraska cannot throw the ball, nobody but service academies run the option!
Finally-Huge mismatch and the sideline, not a big Synder fan, but he can coach! Solich will be analyst with Davie, Corso on ESPN soon!

Wildcats by more than a TD
 

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gman2 have to agree with you about the K St game. With lord at QB for Neb they will not and can not keep up with the scoring that K St will put up. Yes, I still think Neb overhyped D is just that way too over rated. K St will score and we will watch as the enept neb qb once again goes 3 and out time and again.

A win here for K St over neb will make their season.

Big Play for me this week Kansas St all the way.
 

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Solich will be analyst with Davie, Corso on ESPN soon!
:lol: :lol: :lol2 :lol2

They'll have to get a specially built stool for him since his feet won't touch the ground:D
 

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hate nebraska. clouds my reasoning. are there any stats to support k st ? (we all know lord sucks).
 

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i have San Jose State +14 circled.. ;) too many points in this rivalry..

Fresno does not have the talent they have had in the past..



Agree with your reasoning on Kansas State..

Good Luck..;)
 

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Elvis you named the only stat that counts lord sucks and add solich as coach BINGO win the cash with K St:D
 

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ohio state/purdue under 40
not sure why this line is climbing but ill bite. i was actually planning on taking it at under 38. but ill grab the 40 with no complaints. osu loves playing low scoring games vs the elite teams. well im not sure if they "love" doing it, but they sure as hell have a tendency to do it. this meeting last year was playing in between the 30s. i just dont see either team taking a lot of chances. both teams coming off high scoring games. this one should revert to old school football.
 
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everything played out true to form. just didnt find its way over the total. miami more than did their part. marshall really was lame. needed a little better effort from the herd. needed the boise state offense to punch it in for miami those times inside the marshall 10 yard line. :D
(0-1 -1.1 units for the week)
 

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My first Madjacks post and GMan it is exactly what you would expect from me my old friend. As you know I have a bit of Big 12 knowledge and I just can't see any justification for a KState play, but certainly not for you at a size like 3 units. Snyder as a road fav against a ranked team? Isnt that something like 0-fer his lifetime? Sure Lord cant throw- like Roberson can? On paper I would agree that K-State is better but we both know the better teams dont always win.
 

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Great analysis on KSU. Solid points. The one thing that makes me wonder about this line is exactly what you said, why KSU -1 when Neb. is ranked higher and at home. That is the one thing that scares me. That trend has been hitting lately, lower ranked team favoured over higher ranked team. That trend has been winning lately. Neb. defense seems to feed off the home crowd, coming up with big plays and Huskers special teams are better than KSU. I see so many people on this board KSU that it scares me. I am on Neb. and I posted a few reasons why in my thread. GL

HORNS:D
 

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really good to hear from you. as ive told you many times, you are one of the soundest cappers ive ever come across. i figured you became soured on internet posting after that other site went down the drain and into the sh1tter. your big 12 knowledge and overall opinions will be a great addition to the forum.

re: kansas state. the bet is in. grabbed (-1) earlier this week. maybe ill regret it. we'll see. glad to see youll be around for future weeks to discuss big 12 games. you know i very much value your opinion. have done surprisingly well in the big 12 the last few weeks. had okie strong over okie state and then texas last week over okie state. texas tech hurt me a few times last month when kingsbury was playing out of his mind. (edit: kingsbury? jeez. that just goes to show you how leech's system just plugs qb's in. that tech team is the same as last year. great offensive system, but a bunch of pussies on D. lmfao at myself for typing kingsbury without thinking twice)

all in all, great to see you around.
btw- i talked to shakes for the first time in awhile a few weeks ago. believe it or not, he IS STILL alive. id have guessed he slit his throat by now over the steelers and penn state :D

good to see you in time for hoops season. please dont tell me carolina is going to win the title. ive told you many times roy will never win a big game :nono: :D

expecting to hear from you in the coming weeks. good to see you around these parts.

final thought: roberson is no prize, but the fact that lord has a division 1 scholarship is insulting to D-1 athletics. guess i grabbed the lesser of two evils. snyder sucks, but hes better than solich. roberson is lame, but better than lord.

(p.s.....line has moved to kstate -2 in some places. if it moves any more, can always buy back a unit on nebraska if i start to re-consider. right now, i think kstate wins this win w/no prob but im sure you can offer counterpoints)
 
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Kansas St fan here.

Don't usually bet on the Cats unless I feel very confident.

Snyder sucks and Roberson is lame? Ouch.

As far as the game goes, I am betting small on KSU. I agree with nearly all of your points. KSU should win this going away on paper. However, KSU has not won in Lincoln since 1968. I have attended the last 5 games in Lincoln and have seen the Cats self-destruct nearly every time. These have been some good teams. Snyder seems to create added tension for this game and it seems to project to his teams performance.

We will see what happens Saturday, but I wouldn't bet the house on it.
 

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How's it going gman

Huskers were an early circle for me but found something that will probably keep me off this game.

Know you're not much of a numbers guy but this is jumps out at me.

Since 1980, Nebraska is 2-19-1 as a dog, including this 0-1 season where they lost as +5.5 dog to Texas.

Hope you hit it.
 

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stagger:

damn, didnt realize that stat on nebraska. that tells me they dont perform well when theyre not the superior team. some teams love the dog role. looks like nebraska isnt one of them. that, however, is offset i suppose by the fact that kansas state hasnt won here in forever. i stil expect them to get it done. very interesting stat for sure. now that i think about it, the games i remember the huskers being a dog in, they didnt perform well whatsoever.

gl bud
 

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south carolina (+7) over florida
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this game falls into one of my favorite set-ups in capping. gators are --and have always been -- my favorite college team. but really feel like this is an outstanding spot for carolina. if i didnt feel as strongly as i do about some other games, i might very well have played this one for two units. i tried to wait for a hook on the 7, but not seeing it. so ill grab it at 7-even. this is a spot where florida is in a COMPLETE different role than theyve been in the entire year. gators/zook had a lot of critics this season. they surprised a lot of people by pulling back to back road upsets of lsu and arkansas, and then beating gerogia for the billionth time in a row in jacksonville. put all that aside for a minute. florida's resurgence this year came in a handful of underdog roles where they had nothing to lose. all those upsets were dog-roles for florida. now they go into south carolina in a role that is not only completely different from what theyre used to this season, but also a role theyve continually failed in under zook. furthermore, theyve got rival florida state on deck. and this is another key that i cant overlook: leak has impressed the sh1t out of me, but the fact remains that he is still a freshman. playing a frosh and taking points leaves you some room for the mistakes of youth. this spot is much different for him. he's gotta be sharp now and must lead a convincing win (in order to cover). in sum: its a spot where weve had a team excel in the dog role all season. now theyre overvalued and laying a lot of points. i considered a small play on usc moneyline, but i think florida may find a way to win it somehow in the end. but if florida comes in and smacks holtz' boys, id be extremely surprised. by all media accounts, lou's team is left for dead. but they come up big here imo
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