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[BobbyBlueChip]

I'm probably defending him more because I remember Nick using his computer to post plays when he was in California, so I'm assuming he's an SC guy. And as ignorant as USC alums can be, they're usually not into scams like this.

And, they're not the only Company on the bulletin board that changed their name to a dotcom name in March of 1999 and have now reconsidered.

Lastly, "BTW - it was a fumble" is probably one of the best comebacks I've heard

 

[acehistr8]

acehistr8

(hangs head for a moment thinking of a good comeback regarding the fact that the rule might suck but it was a SPOT ON interpretation of the rule)

(decides against it and instead looks at his SB Championship poster and puts on his SB Championship hat and shirt and clicks on Tivo to show a replay of SBXXXVI)

 

[Super Idiota]

BBC,

I am an SC guy and a very good friend of Nick. Am I involved in a scam? Obviously everyone here thinks so. But I am not here to waste my time trying to convince everyone why PFCE is a good stock. I thought these forums were for everyone to share information, not ridicule other's opinions (acehistr8)

To answer bear...I do still own over 150,000 shares.

It really doesn't matter what you all do. I guess I just felt a need to share some info with everyone since I made some quick cash on this stock this week.

Sorry I ever came here.

 

[acehistr8]

SI, sorry I did not mean to ridicule you. I am 2 months away from completing an MBA in Finance and feel I know what to look for and what not to look for in a "hot tip" given that and 12 years of market/investing experience. I am glad you have made money and hope you continue to do so.

However you never answered my question. You claimed in your post that we would be sorry as a Fortune 100 company has invested millions of dollars in this company. I am looking for proof of this. If you have proof, I would like to see it. The reason I said what I said is this is how stock scams typically run. Someone says that something wonderful is about to happen based on XYZ. I can show you dozens of SEC case studies that read just like your post.

So do you have information or dont you, that is the one question I would like you to answer here.

Also I would like a clarification on your statement that fellow investors see this stock increasing 10fold in two months.

If you could answer these two questions for me I would greatly appreciate it. Again, sorry if I offended you in any way. I will try to focus on the stock and not on making this personal. My apologies for having done so in the first place.

 

[Neemer]

He's avoiding the question b/c he doesn't have the answer! I received my MBA degree in '94 and learned numerous things about penny stock companies. In regards to this one, it fits the SCAM mold to a tee. The thing that stands out the most is the switching of company's business focus. I will admit, I've never seen a penny stock company that switched to such unrelated businesses. They will usually try and be somewhat consistent, but this one takes the cake. Any time I see a company whose business focus is in the mining industry, it's an automatic red flag. I haven't looked at this particular company's 1-5 yr. chart, but I'd bet my left nut it'll will be going through the common "pump and dump" phase pretty damn soon. I'm still laughing at the radio-internet merger, trying to capitalize off the dot.com craze in the late 90's. That was a pretty poor attempt in beefing up the price of the stock so all the company officials could dump their stock while they're telling all the other suckers to buy more.

You might have gotten lucky and tripled your money in this particular issue, but I can PROMISE you this; You will LOSE more than you'll win. There are very few pennystock players out in the world that consistently make money year in year out. And one more thing, if you do indeed have yourself a 3 X bagger, you're a complete moron if you don't take it off the table and cash in. There are a whole bunch of greedy stock investors out in the world, that do what you are doing right now. If you ever have the good fortune in your life to double your money off of a hype driven penny stock, then you'd best cash your chips in and mark it up in the "LUCK" column. Perhaps you haven't got your ass burned very good in the micro-caps, but I can promise you one thing: IT WILL HAPPEN....

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

Maybe it's the clients that I have, but I've seen a Company that has had 5 different focuses in the last 7 years, Doubled there stock price (to $.50) when they bought a Company with dot com at the end of it and are now back in the $.15 range.

I don't know why I found researching this Company more interesting then the work I'm paid to do this afternoon, but the things that stand out about this Company is that a former privately-held Company owns the majority of the equity. What I can't figure out is why they would do a "back door" IPO and deal with all the hassles of being a public Company if a Fortune 100 Company was going to bankroll them. The thing that seperates PFCE from my client I talked about above is that the officers of the Company are not being paid and one of the officers owns their office building and is not charging the Company rent. So it's not like the officers are trying to pay themselves with their investors money. Also, RagingBull.com had a poster (anonymous) talk about whispers of good things on the horizon so maybe there are rumors that are true (but he owned the stock as well). But all agreements seem so easy at the discussion table. The hard part is when the ink gets signed.

Maybe I'm naive, but I do judge people by the people that they call friends and Nick has always been a stand up guy, so I really don't think that this is a scam. Good Luck with your investment, SI.

And acehist8, enjoy the feeling of seeing the Pats victory. The unexpected championship is always better than the expected one. And as for the fumble, I was one of the "lucky" one who had the Pats at 2.5 thanks to AcesGold's oh so sweet lines. Thought I was a genius . . . for about a month.

 

[Super Idiota]

It appears that this forum is taking everything much too seriously, especially when you start talking about UCC and insider trading.

To avoid any legal ramifications, I will drop the subject. The Fortune 100 company is not public knowledge. So call it what you will. Fellow investors are good friends of mine...SC Business School Graduates. We are ignorant in some cases, but not when it comes to $$$.

 

[yyz]

Hmmmm......

 

[Super Idiota]

**MORE NEWS TO FOLLOW**

**MORE NEWS TO FOLLOW**

PFCE closed today at 9.5 cents/share and there was after hours trading that pushed it up to 10 cents/share.

<B>Pacific Fuel Cell Corp. Announced Today That it is in Negotiations With The University Of California</B>

TUSTIN, CALIFORNIA, Aug 15, 2002 (CCNMatthews via COMTEX) -- Pacific Fuel Cell Corp. (PFCE) is pleased to announce today that it is in negotiations with the University of California to do research and build a prototype based upon PFCE's proprietary intellectual property.

George Suzuki, PFCE President, stated: "We hope to sign an agreement shortly and at that time will provide further details. This research is planned as the first step in an aggressive plan to position PFCE in the forefront of a tidal wave that will carry fuel cells to prominence as the major, non-polluting, energy source."

Pacific Fuel Cell Corp. is an emerging Fuel Cell technology company aggressively developing low cost fuel cells for production, using proprietary technology to severely reduce or eliminate the need for platinum as a catalyst. PFCE is actively pursuing the acquisition of related intellectual property to further establish its position in the Fuel Cell Industry. The company is executing its plan to carve out a major position in this exciting and lucrative industry.

Certain matters discussed in this news release may constitute forward-looking statements within the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and, as such, may involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties and other factors that may cause the actual results to be materially different from the results implied herein. Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on the forward-looking statements made in this news release.

 

[Doughboy]

Do you know what this whole debate sounds like to me? I t sounds like me talking with my friends telling them that there is money to be made gamblng and that I can do it with research and hard work. They just laugh at me, think I am a junkie. With that being said, I am in the stock business and my biggest problem with penny and otc stocks is that manipulation from others can make or break you. We have a rule that we don't trade penny stocks "which leaves out 80% of the Nasdaq" because those stocks and companies, and I personally believe these companies are there for a reason. I leave it to Warren Buffet "for me that is" when deciding whether I might invest in this company on a tip or not, and remember that Buffet never invested in technology because he said he did not understand it. I don't understand the fuel cell technology or whatever this company does, however, that does not mean that it might not make money for someone. We have a saying in my industry. "There are good stocks and there are good companies". Unfortunately, nowadays they do not seem correlated. This could be a good stock that goes to 5 bucks, but for me I won't touch it simply because I have not seen the numbers, the news, or the chart. Just my 2 cents.

DB

 

[Super Idiota]

That sounds logical. I wouldn't recommend anyone investing $$$ in something they don't believe in either. It wouldn't hurt reading about this company and tracking the stock over the next few weeks.

 

[TORONTO-VIGILANTE]

just thought i'd add..

just thought i'd add..

hey guys....i'm wanting to get into the stock market someday (as a beginner), so thanks for the shared valuable info and ideas....

and kudos to you guys for not turning this into a flame war or mud-slinging!!!

very mature.........class acts, all of you!!!

:toast:

 

[acehistr8]

SI,

I feel compelled to offer a small apology here to you. While I am still not convinced in the company or their technology, the stock has gone from 5 cents when you posted to 9 cents right now. If it stabalizes around 9 for a couple of weeks, it is probably a decent pick up.

Nice work.

 

[Super Idiota]

Apologies are not necessary. I have been a visitor of MJs for a couple of years now and think everyone should have a chance to take advantage of an opportunity....even if it is from the inside.

Good luck to you and your investments.

 

[selkirk]

most fuel cell companies will go broke. even the bigger ones like Ballard Power I would not touch since there is no revenue or earnings for the next few years.

Ballard power has investments from large companies, and good technology however how can someone evaluate the company since we do not know what the sales will be and earnings or if they will have the best technology.

should point out that Honda and Toyota are already producing hybrids and these vehicles should get cheaper and improve, GM is also coming out with one in one/two years. So perphaps Fuel cells will not be even the answer in cars.

this stock is a little bit different, it is a spec stock, I mean it is 5-10 cents. do your own research, this company does not need to change the world just get some hype around it and maybe the stock will go higher.

in the 90s sometimes I would buy a spec stock just because I knew the people behind it, could give it a marketing push. many times the land or prospects were not great but they could make a good story out of it.

anyways good luck with this company will not be investing in it, have a list of companies some trading below cash they have on hand, and should survive this meltdown.

also there are quite a few small biotech companies which traded at much higher levels in 1999 that have made progress and are better companies but trade at less than half those valuations, no rush to buy because no one cares for now...

thanks
selkirk

 

[Neemer]

This is kind of like buying a lottery ticket.

 

[Super Idiota]

PFCE and Univ. of CA sign agreement!!

PFCE and Univ. of CA sign agreement!!

<B>This stock will continue to rise!</B>

TUSTIN, Calif., Aug 22, 2002 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- Pacific Fuel Cell Corp.
(OTCBBFCE) is pleased to announce today that it has signed an agreement with
the University of California to do research and build a fuel cell prototype
based upon PFCE's proprietary carbon nano-technology.

A major purpose of the project is to sharply reduce the amount of platinum
needed for the fuel cell's operation.

Matching funds will be provided by the State of California.

George Suzuki, PFCE President, stated: "This research is planned as the first
step in an aggressive plan to position PFCE in the forefront of a tidal wave
that will carry fuel cells to prominence as the major, non-polluting, energy
source."

Pacific Fuel Cell Corp. is an emerging Fuel Cell technology company aggressively
developing low cost fuel cells for production, using proprietary technology to
severely reduce or eliminate the need for platinum as a catalyst. PFCE is
actively pursuing the acquisition of related intellectual property to further
establish its position in the Fuel Cell Industry. The company is executing its
plan to carve out a major position in this exciting and lucrative industry.

 

[Super Idiota]

Jump on PFCE

Jump on PFCE

As you can see I started this thread last August and if you read through all the comments, you'll see that I got ripped for it.

Take a look at Pacific Fuel Cell (PFCE). It jumped to 0.57 last week and it is stabilizing at around 0.35, but it is expected to skyrocket again in the next few months.

I bought last year at an average of .05 and am really excited about its future expectations.

Good Luck!

 

[yyz]

Have you taken any profit yet? You seem to stand to make a good return, so it would be nice to lock some up, and fiddle fuk with therest.....

 

[shamrock]

good for you SI, that s certainly not to hard to take. I hope you sold some at that.57 price. 11x your investment not bad at all, no matter what the na..sayers and academics say.

Good luck
shamrock