a couple 2 unit ncaa basketball plays for wednesday..........

gman2

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overnight lines:

2 units.....ohio state (+3.5) over georgia tech
2 units.....miami,oh (+11) over dayton

1 unit.....duke moneyline (+135) over michigan state
upgrade: 2 unit.....washington (+6) over gonzaga
(1 unit at +6, the second unit is at +5)

*hatred for osu runs deep, but like em in this spot. actually really like em in this spot. bucks off a mediocre trip in maui. nothing to write home about. a bad loss to fisher's sdsu group which i faded the shit outta the bucks. a couple of nothing-special wins vs central michigan and villanova. thats fine. gives em some value coming hom to play in columbus for the first time this year where theyre traditionally pretty decent. as far as tech goes, has anyone been more impressive early on this season? jackets are hitting on all cylinders right now. but keep in mind this team is very much the same team from last year in terms of personnel. and for those that have forgotten, gtech was somewhere in the ballpark of 1-13 straight up on the road last season (reg season). how could anyone be in a hurry to lay chalk away from atlanta with hewitt's guys? tech couldnt beat lame-ass clemson or florida state on the road last season when their ncaa lives were on the line. easy to perform well at home and (in tech's case), easy to perform well in a neutral site game (the garden) when youre the underdog and the crowd will pull for you if you can stay close. different mindset to be playing a legitimate road game where the only people in your corner are the 13 or 14 guys on the team, the coaching staff, and the team manager and waterboy. tech hasnt shown they can get it done in hostile environments. great spot for ohio state in what i think is a pick 'em kind of game.

*big rivalry down in southern ohio for miami and dayton. both teams very solid this year. dayton's been awfully impressive this year with a nice cross-country road win in pepperdine and then a maui title. flyers once again gonna be a force in the a-10. but miami quietly gonna be a player in the mac this year. lots of veterans on this miami team with a good mix of talented sophomores. i know charlie coles-coached team get better as the season progresses and sometimes suffer inexplicable losses early on (only to ALWAYS be a force in the mac tourney), but theres way to much value in this number to pass up. miami returning to the site of disaster from two years ago, when dayton laid an absurd ass-whooping on the redhawks (60-23) (yes, that score is correct). gotta think miami would like to atone for that debacle. redhawks need to control the tempo. dayton by 6-7 points sounds about right. line seems a little soft since daytons had some national exposure this year already and miami has played a couple mutants. but i think a lot of ohioans and mac guys are expecting miami to be a solid team this year.

*just playing some value on duke. they werent particularly impressive in alaska. actually they were pretty lame. but just have a feeling theyll respond here. devils played 3 gms in 3 nights, but thats offset a little because msu just got done playing b2b over the weekend. obviously duke did it 1,000 miles away while spartans did it in their own gym. still think duke wins this game. devils shooting has been brutal and msu defense will be no cupcake, but grabbing duke moneyline and betting they find a way to win. reddick due to breakout at some point. hes been brutal to start the season.

*gonzagas dominated this in-state early season rivalry game for the last 5 years. but i still think huskies have some nice athletes on that team. for whatever reason, they made me some nice money to close out last season, especially at home. theyre a brutal road team, but they had their moments at home. hoping some of that carries over. game is sold out and although gonzaga is loaded this year, still think uw hangs in this one. washington coming off some cupcake games to gain some confidence and nothing on their schedule in the coming weeks in terms of power teams. good spot for washington to lay it on the line and go balls out vs the powerful zags. (open to feedback from the west coast guys. ive had pretty good success in the WCC the lasy few seasons. pac-10 always a crapshoot. washington the only team i really made some money with LY)
 
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gman.. i pay close attention to the bucks as well as IU and both teams seem to be pretty weak. I am very surprised at a line of 3.5 and i think GA tech has a superior team.. almost looks too good to be true for georiga tech backers.. just a thought, surprised by that line quite a bit..
 

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i was surprised too buckeye, but what gman says makes too much sense, g tech is a terrible road team year after year and i am not gonna pul the trigger on it because gtech is the only way i can convince myself to go and i was blinded by the line and did not consider gtechs road record and the fact that ohio state is a good home team.
 

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thx for responses guys. tech couldnt buy a win away from atlanta year. they desperately needed wins for the ncaas but couldnt win vs lame ass teams in clemson and in florida state. not convinced they all the sudden learned how to win on a true road court. thats damn near the exact same team from LY. ohio state no prize, but have performed pretty well at value city arena vs big ten elite teams. no reason to think this isnt a even up game at worst
 

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adding: 1 unit.....butler (+120) over ball state
sometimes not always a good thing to back teams coming off a tough loss (overtime down to the wire for butler) but im confident this team can respond. butler's claimed 4 of the L5 in this in-state series. gonna sound like a broke record by the time the seasons done, but in whats expected to be a close game, love backing a team that shoots the 3 well and shoots FTs well. if they bring their 2h michigan effort into this game, they win it...plain and simple
 

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Gman:
Agree with Miami, thats a lot of points to give to a team that you know right up front that will not get out smarted. Juby Johnson can play with the best of them and has a better supporting cast this year. They should hang within 10 here and an outright win would not shock me.

Agree to disagree with the OSU -GT tilt. but I do know if it gets to six or even higher I may be shopping for a middle.

Did you look at the Va.- Minn game ? I think Va is a getting off a bit cheap at -6 and I like them a bit here.
 

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I'm not playing the OSU game either way, but for a recent example of a team looking really impressive to start the season at home and then laying an egg in their first hostile environment, look at Texas Tech from a couple of nights ago. I took SMU and the points, but apparently 90% of bettors were all over Texas Tech based on the way they were blowing out teams at home in Lubbock. If you looked at the schedule from last year, it was obvious that Texas Tech was a completely different team at home and on the road, and it very well could be the same with Georgia Tech. I can't put money on a team that has looked as lousy as Ohio State, but I'd like to see how Georgia Tech responds on an opponent's court before I take them as a road favorite. Good luck, I've been looking at Miami(OH) as well. Can't bet on Duke, but I hope you're right there as well.
 

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spang:

virginia is one of my favorite ncaa teams to bet (for better or for worse sometimes, lol) but i cant lay chalk with em this early. i love betting virginia as a road dog or a small chalk. last year they had really high expectations. they shoulda been a player in the acc. and they stumbled into the NIT. they brought back a ton of guys from that team and i can assure you that i will be betting on virginia a shitload this year in january and february. just cant do it now with that chalk. that team is absolutely capable of covering for you. but they dont always close out games the way they should. (on a side note, billet is one of my favorite players in the country. amazes me that he can co-exist on that team with some of the guys he plays with :D )

heyward:

good point man. texas tech (like you said) couldnt win away fro lubbock last year and nothings changed. at very worst, i think this game is ohio state or pass. when a team goes 1-13 or whatever SU on the road last year with the exact same team, whats the rush to hammer em -3.5 (or -5) tonight in columbus? id say wait and see if they can prove it first. unlikely it happens.
 

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disagree with you guys on the dayton game...

was at the dayton / MU game two years ago where they got killed...I think they had 6 points in the first half with about 1:30 left...while that may give them reason to get revenge I don't think that they will match up as well with dayton deep line up...especially with brian gregory's home opener he is going to make sure the game is not close and show the loyal dayton fans that he deserves to coach there...the line is at 9.5 right now and I think that it will eventually come down to fouling and covering the line...dayton will ether win by 15-20 if they make the free throws which they have been, or by 7-12 if not....
 

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Gman I think the G. Tech/OSU game is either OSU or pass. Everyone and their mama was on NC State and Illinois last night(except for a few). And of course look what happened there. If it looks to easy, then most of the time it is. You would think we would know by now:confused: anyways good luck tonight gman:D
 

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jcuaudi:

youre right, i think miami had 8 or 9 pts at halftime of that one, lol. that was a complete debacle. trust me, im not playing any "revenge angle". all im saying is that coles probably had little trouble getting their attention and reminding them that they have to take care of the ball and not play from behind in this one. dayton very good. but thats a definite overlay imo, especially given miami's expectations this year. we'll see how it goes
 
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