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changes/final card (upgraded auburn)

1 unit.....montana (+18) over auburn
1 unit.....montana (+20) over aubrun (thats the added one)
1 unit.....butler (+4) over bradley

keep on stumbling on more pro-montana stuff. really think this game could stay in low double-digits.
 
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montana is an interesting pick, kinda like the points there. would call the siena game the other way.

done for the night now, but i'm going to take a hard look at wichita st catching the points in manhattan. shockers are a tough team and right now they're pretty miffed that k state has refused to renew the series on a home and home basis. looks like they might play with a grudge.
 

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butler...........simply put, this team has an incredible knack for playing close games. their style of play is conducive to tight games. their first 4 games have been decided by a TOTAL of six points. theyve been somewhat enigmatic early on this season, winning at northern iowa, taking michigan to overtime, going to the wire with nut state, and then inexplicably struggling with a lame evansville team at hinkle. my main concern with butler was how long it would to take for avery sheets to adequately fill the void left by miller and archey from last season. he's starting to assert himself and looks more comfortable right now. his scoring has increased every game this season (5,7,14,14). the kid can play -- it was just a matter of him adjusting to his new role. bradley does hold a rebounding edge here -- thats something butler is going to have to be careful with; however that has been butler's achilles heel for years now. they normally find ways to offset their deficiencies on the boards (the 3-pt shot, good FT shooting, etc). both teams have played a respectable schedule to this point. this series has been very tight as well. their 3 most recent meetings (all butler victories) have been (75-70), (51-50), and (51-48). no reason to think another butler game doesnt go to the wire.
 
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Wichita's best player, Jamar Howard, hurt his knee on Monday in practice and sat out yesterdays practice. Will be a gametime decision according to Turgeon, Wichita has only won outright 2 of 14 times @ KSU. GL
 

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montana........more of an anti-auburn play than anything else. tigers have once again been cruising through a lame non-conference schedule that has inflated their record. theyre sitting at 6-0, but havent played anyone. their toughest test was probably the college of charleston and that game was a 4 point auburn win. auburn's numbers are obviosly gonna be a little skewed since theyve played some real mutants, but they do hit the glass. what i like about montana is that they have outrebounded all but one of their opponents this year and the grizzlies are just about even size-wise with auburn (and might even be a little taller, as auburn goes 6'6,6'7,6'8 on the frontline, and montana goes 6'7,6'7, 6'10). while im not saying its a textbook lookahead, auburn does travel to vegas next week to play unlv in their next game, followed by some (relatively speaking, lol) better competition in the coming two weeks. could be a dead spot for auburn. they struggled with air force a good deal in the 1st half on sunday. montana gets up and down the floor a lot more, so both teams are gonna score.i just dont see auburn ever really busting this one open.
 

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azjeff:

i cant offer a legitimate opinion on the total in that game and i dont want to just throw something out there. with auburn playing such mutants up to this point, a lot of their numbers are skewed and i dont have a true idea of what their style of play is. what they try to do in non-conference play isnt necessarily what theyre gonna do once sec play rolls around.

toward the end of last season, they were really trying to grind games out. their final game against syracuse was an anomaly -- they really wanted to out-physical teams. their scores early on this year seem to indicate theyre pushing the ball more, but the level of competition has been so bad that who knows? killingsworth is their only player that really scares me.
montana does have a tendency to let up a lot of points on the road.

no real opinion though. sorry.
 

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Might be forgetting about Kyle Davis for Auburn. He goes at least 6'10 and gets major minutes for them even if he doesn't start.
 

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thanks. was making more of a general statement. i actually think davis might be their leading rebounder. just more or less implying that montana isnt going up against a team that has a ton of size (to the point where they could get killed on the glass)

thanks for the heads up
 

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jesus. im bending down and touchin toes while montana and butler take turns.

montana turns 5 pt deficit at half into 22 pt loss
butler turns 12 pt outright lead at half into 4 point loss

0-2-1 for the night.
gave some back from the last few days.
 
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