Initial Thoughts on the Super Bowl

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Just to get this out of the way...let me say that a 7 point line in this game is obsurd. I am by no means saying that New England cannot cover this line.....but giving 7 points in a NEUTRAL field is obsurd. No one can convince me that this game would be Pats -10 at Foxboro or Pats -4 in Carolina. It would not happen......this line is inflated for one reason and one reason only.....this is the biggest bet game of the year, and the public loves a favorite. If you make this line 3.5-5 (what it should be) the public takes the Pats at an enormous rate.

Sorry but on one can convince me that this line is justifyable on the football field.......The Pats do not have the offensive firepower to blow teams off the field. The only blowout they have had on the streak was 31-0 against the Bills (who gave up) There is a reason for this......the Pats do not run the ball effectively when they need to. Meaning the RED ZONE....even against the lowly Colts offensive line....they had to settle for 5 field goals in the RED ZONE.

Notice good RED ZONE teams, RUN THE BALL effectively. (The Chiefs) Now....before I piss off too many Pats fans....the Panthers are not good at RED ZONE offense either. Both are quite comparable. And both teams are VERY effective at hold their competition to field goals in the RED ZONE. This game will have a lot of field goals kicked....I GUARANTEE IT. Field goals do not amount to covering 7 point spreads on neutral fields.

An even bigger factor when you have two solid defensive squads going at it is field position.....BIG ADVANTAGE Panthers. New England is near the bottom in punting avergae in the NFL, and the Panthers are near the top. The Pats will have to make up this lost ground in total yardage.

I guess what I am saying is that the Panthers do not have a glaring weakness to expose.

Can they run the ball? They are about average....but they stick with it.

Can they pass it? The emergence of Steve Smith and Delhomme and the postseason play of Muhammed looks pretty good.

Can they stop the run? The Pats dont have a huge attack and the Panthers are a little better than league average, so YES.

Can they stop the pass? The Pats do not look to expose cornerbacks downfield, so unless Brady and the Pats become a big play offense overnight, the big play will not kill the Panthers.

Field Goal kicking? Kasay has been pretty solid for the majority of the year.

Special Teams and Punting? Panthers are among the league leaders in punting and kickoff returns are not horrible.



What will the Pats scheme against? The Pats will play solid defense and will play Pats football......but Pats football is not covering 7 points in a neutral site. It is attempting to sustain long drives with short passing and a marginal run game. They will be able to have a few nice drives.....but will they be able to continually punch in touchdowns? I doubt it.

Not that the Panthers will.....but again.....the Panthers dont have to win this game for me to win money. They just have to lose by 6 or less.

I will take my chances right now with the Panthers and the under.

Any thoughts?
 

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The under looks like a good play, but I don't bet totals. They are often difficult for me to predict. And one key play or turnover could put the game over. Plus suberbowls are often high scoring. Remember how many points were scored in the Ravens/giants game. Who would've predicted that?
 

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Very, very hard to gauge the over/under in this game IMO. Both teams are capable of putting up big points or holding the other team to field goals. If I were to guess, I'd say that the total comes in close to 40, but it could just as easily be a 28-24 game or a 10-3 game.

The play, as you mentioned, has to be Carolina. I figured the line would be NE-5 max. Getting 7 points on a team with a strong defense and solid running game is nuts.

I'll be hoping that the line jumps to 7.5, but I've already played Carolina +7, and I'll take them on the moneyline as well. ;)
 

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The line for this game is inflated and I think it is to high. One thing to consider,not sur of the exact number, is that the team that wins the super bowl covers some where around 80%.
 

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you better watch out criticizing New England on this site.

The many "homers" and "fans" will be coming out very soon (you all know who you are)...

I'm sick of seeing the "fans" of the Patriots talk their shit non stop here, but that's just me.

I'm big on Carolina +7 btw too

But Carolina will get blown out because

1) NE has the best coach ever
2) NE defense will get a shutout
3) Carolina sucks
4) NE will never lose till November 04
 

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played ne -6.5 for a bunch....will probably take car with 7.5 by game day and hope for a 7 point ne win

did same with total played over 36 (bought it) and will play under for like amount as total is likely to rise

jr capper :cool:
 

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like n/e about 31/17..pats d will slow down the cats o and the pats o will have a field day with excellent passing and enough running to suffice:)
 

The Big Tease

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wow.....thats a pretty bold prediction.....not sure how the Pats will have a field day against a defense that not ONE team has scored 31 offensive points against ALL YEAR. Tennessee scored a touchdown on defense in their 37 point performance. So unless you expect a defensive touchdown or special teams TD for New England.....that 31-17 prediction doesnt make a whole lotta sense.


Good Luck.....but it takes some balls to give a touchdown in a Pats game
 

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11 of the last 12 superbowls have been decided by 7 points or more. I think that is why the line is inflated. These games tend to get out of hand when 1 team gets behind and becomes desperate and makes mistakes.
 

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The key to this game IMO is which defense NE brings.If its the one they've brought for every other road game they've played this year the seven points are way too many and ML is a good play.Show it going over as well.If they somehow play the d they play at home it'll be a close win for NE.The reason the Bosox plight the last 88 years has been so pleasant is because as bad a losers as the NE fans are,they are much worse winners.I only hope someday Davie inherits the reins,they'll be in conflict.
 

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The reason the Bosox plight the last 88 years has been so pleasant is because as bad a losers as the NE fans are,they are much worse winners.I only hope someday Davie inherits the reins,they'll be in conflict.

You're right. You could sure give us all a lesson in class huh?:thefinger
 

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i don't think n/e will have any trouble moving the ball and scoring vs the cats..once the pats take the lead the cats will have to put the ball in the air and the fun begins for the pats defense..:D
 

The Big Tease

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WINNA! Congrats to the Patriots but they proved two of my points.....

They are not as scary away from home and 7 points is too much for a team that doesnt blow people out.

WOOHOO!
 
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