hillary: bush should thank bill for military's success

AR182

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i'd like a toke of whatever hillary's been smoking. i would say she is delusional.


Insists Clinton administration deserves credit for U.S. successes


In a foreign policy speech at a Washington think tank, Sen. Hillary Clinton chided President Bush for not thanking her husband for handing the current administration such a strong military.

The Democrat from New York told an audience at the Brookings Institution Bush is now engaged in "nation building" in Iraq, a concept he derided during his 2000 campaign.

"But from what I saw, the victories that we can look to in the post-conflict period in Iraq are largely due to the actions of our military," she said. "And not just our generals but, literally, all up and down the chain of command. And it has been an extraordinary display of American know-how and willingness to dig in and do some very difficult work, while still trying to engage the Iraqis and create a condition of stability and security."

Clinton then noted that during the 2000 campaign, Vice President Cheney said there is almost nothing you can do to improve the quality of a military force created by your predecessors.

Cheney, she pointed out, wrote a letter to former President Reagan "thanking him for building the military that fought so capably."

"Well, I don't know, but I don't think any letters have yet arrived on the desks of anyone associated with the Clinton administration," she said.

Critics, however, point to deep cuts in military spending during the 1990s and Clinton's personal loathing for the military, which they contend led to low morale among the ranks.

From 1990 to 1998, active Army ranks were reduced from 770,000 to 495,000. After the cuts, the Army had 10 active combat divisions compared to the 18 it had at the start of Operation Desert Storm in 1991. The following also were cut:


293,000 reservists;

two reserve divisions;

20 Air Force and Navy air wings along with approximately 2,000 combat aircraft;

232 strategic bombers;

13 ballistic-missile submarines with 3,114 nuclear warheads on 232 missiles;

500 ICBMs;

four aircraft carriers;

121 surface-combat vessels and attack submarines, plus all the support basing, transport and logistic access, tanks, armored fighting vehicles, helicopters, etc.

In her Brookings speech, Clinton also said she thought women in Iraq were better off under the Saddam Hussein regime because of their participation in the public arena.

Under Saddam, she said, women "went to school; they participated in the professions, they participated in the government and business and, as long as they stayed out of [Saddam's] way, they had considerable freedom of movement."

Now, however, the governing council has attempted to "shift large parts of civil law into religious jurisdiction."

She said Iraqi women told her they can't leave their homes and go about their daily business, "and there is a concerted effort to burn schools that are educating girls [and] to intimidate aid workers who are women."
 

gardenweasel

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what`s gonna happen to hilary if kerry takes on edwards as his running mate and beats bush?....

and for arguments sake,what if kerry and edwards win a second term......wouldn`t it stand to reason that edwards,young fellow that he is, would follow as the next democratic nominee after kerry?.....

alot of supposition there,i know.... but,under this scenario,it would seem that hilary would be aced out.....at least until she`s around 70......

:confused: :thinking: :shocked: :toast:

C`MON KERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!C`MON YOU WISHY WASHY,WAFFLING WAR HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i`m liking this guy more and more:142hail: :spotting: :lol: :lol:
 

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gw,

i'm surprised that you like this guy. this guy waffles more than any politician that i can remember.

however, mark my words, kerry will never beat bush.

i also heard that he is high on sen. nelson from fla., who was an astronaut. much better choice, imo than edwards.
 

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my post was with tongue firmly planted in cheek.......but,under my scenario,it`s possible that "hil" could get the shi-ty end of the democratic stick......

i don`t think hilary would mind 4 more years of bush one bit....

i`d vote for lyndon la rouche before i`d vote for hilary....
 

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sorry about that.

sometimes it's hard to tell when somebody is being sarcastic.

hillary will never win, too many negatives.

and i would vote for kucinich before hillary !!
 

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If for some reason hillary would ever get even close to running for President, I can't believe some upstanding right wing wacko wouldn't shoot the lying bitch:eek: :shocked:
 

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Can't you just see Hillary on Pennsylvania Ave... laying drunk in her dominatrix outfit in The Lincoln Room while Big Jimbo is sneaking off down the hallway again!

:D :lol:
 

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Ctownguy

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ctownguy said:
If for some reason hillary would ever get even close to running for President, I can't believe some upstanding right wing wacko wouldn't shoot the lying bitch:eek: :shocked:

I've always thought the same thing may happen.

But I think a stake through the heart is the only way;)
 

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As for Military and spending. It is always done with 5, 10 and 15 year plans. Then they work within those years to fine tune what is needed and and see that the monies are there. So Ronny and and Bill and first old boy Bush can all take some cerdit for our fine militray we have today. The young Bush will show how good some of his adamianstrations ideas were starting in about 2 more years. Lets remember the troop strength was dropped starting with Bush1. Why because more modern weapons were coming on streem that need less men. The use of NG with better training was another step in allowing the main armed forces to have less active men. Also the call up of them was a priorty way past anything in the past. So some of what Hillary said is not all wrong. In fact many vision a even smaller army coming with more weapons that will do the job. Some of those black projects as they are called have been funded and on going for 20 years.
We will see the fruit of some of that work coming soon.
And no the militay did not all hate Clinton for one simple reason.
He gave then more in raises then they had had for some time.
 
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