gman......we will just have to disagree on that one i guess. i dont see it....i will give you east tenn state....i really like that team. manhattan is not bad and may win a game. i just dont see anything coming out of the usual conferences, mac, missouri valley, etc. i am not a big fan of lafayette, and murray state, if they get a decent matchup may win a game.......i would be completely surprised if a mid major made it to the round of 16 other than e tenn state