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DOGS THAT BARK

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This is only full transcript I found of recent letter from
al-Qaida. Scarey!!!!!!!!!!!!
---- do you feel safer knowing the liberals will be out there making sure there is no racial profiling. What ever stakes don't dare approach any Muslims just because they look suspicious and happen to be carrying packages on trains or crowded areas.;)
Wait till after the fact then whine no one is protecting you.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/2CDD53D6-7AF7-40C7-AF88-32A16072F81B.htm
 

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White, anarchist looking fellow buying explosives wearing wife beater T-shirts should probably not be allowed to buy explosives

there ya go Eddie
 

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You now, its funny guys although I have never met either one of you in person, I would imagine that you two would have short haircuts, are white, wear tee-shirts, own guns, drive pick-ups, like hunting, belong to the NRA, etc.

Excuse me but I do not know what an"...anarchist looking fellow..." looks like. Frankly, guys, on the McVey-Koresh profiling scale, you both are right up there. I mean don't you realize how bigotted you both are. God, look in the mirror.

Ed
 

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You don't think like Eddie therefore you are bigotted. :shrug:
 

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its funny guys although I have never met either one of you in person, I would imagine that you two would have short haircuts, are white, wear tee-shirts, own guns, drive pick-ups, like hunting, belong to the NRA, etc


LOL and eddie.. let me guess..

long dirty hair, tie-dyed shirt with matching head band, round sunglasses, flashbacks, hemp sandals, stench of bong water, unkept beard, flower painted mini van, and most likely carry around a bongo.
 
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Re: The full transcript

DOGS THAT BARK said:
This is only full transcript I found of recent letter from
al-Qaida. Scarey!!!!!!!!!!!!
---- do you feel safer knowing the liberals will be out there making sure there is no racial profiling. What ever stakes don't dare approach any Muslims just because they look suspicious and happen to be carrying packages on trains or crowded areas.;)
Wait till after the fact then whine no one is protecting you.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/2CDD53D6-7AF7-40C7-AF88-32A16072F81B.htm

Dogs my brother,

How would you go about this? Have policemen watch out for 'Muslim looking' people carrying packages on the New York subways, or what? Have them detain and search said people? Set up search kiosks throughout the station? Maybe pull over any 'Muslim looking' person as they try to go through a tunnel in NYC?

I don't have much of a problem with some degree of racial profiling in general, but i'm interested in how you think this would be best implemented.
 

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If they look A-rab and have a beard, and talk some lala sounding language, seem too bulky around the midriff, profile em right into detention. :D
 

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You don't think there are 'radical' Christians out there?

(Old stats here, but you get the picture).......in 5 years from 1993-97, there were 17 murders, 58 bombings/arson attacks, 943 invasions/assults/vandalism/stalking and death threats and 4018 harrassing phone calls, hate mail and bomb threats.
Where? Abortion Clinics.

What we think of the abortion issue here is beside the point....You don't think it takes a 'radical' to do those things?? How do you plan to 'profile' them?

In fact, with over 16,000 murders per year in the US, I know where the %'s are. I'd quite happily take my chances sharing a subway seat with an 'evil looking Arab'.
 

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Just when did George W get tough on terrorism. It couldn't have been before 911 because that was when he further cut the CIA budget and when he called them off of Bin Laden.
 

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MrChristo said:
You don't think there are 'radical' Christians out there?

(Old stats here, but you get the picture).......in 5 years from 1993-97, there were 17 murders, 58 bombings/arson attacks, 943 invasions/assults/vandalism/stalking and death threats and 4018 harrassing phone calls, hate mail and bomb threats.
Where? Abortion Clinics.

What we think of the abortion issue here is beside the point....You don't think it takes a 'radical' to do those things?? How do you plan to 'profile' them?

In fact, with over 16,000 murders per year in the US, I know where the %'s are. I'd quite happily take my chances sharing a subway seat with an 'evil looking Arab'.

What does this have to do with this thread:confused:

We can only handle one important issue at a time;)

Were are these Christians? I got the lions:tongue
 

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There is one way to handle this. As we did in in WWII to the Japanies. Round all the Arab's and Mexicans up and put them in protective custody. I mean for there own safty from the boys in the T Shirts. Driveing the pickup trucks with the rifles hanging in the back window. Then after about ayear we let them out and say we were wrong and are sorry. Is this great country im liveing in becoming scared of ever shadow it sees. Holy chit folks don't ley this bunch in the White House turn you into believers of any old B's they throw our way.
 

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whether everyone realizes it or not

whether everyone realizes it or not

there is a segment of the radical muslim population out there that doesn`t like us.....as a matter of fact they would like nothing better that to murder us and every other free thinking,thriving society in the world that doesn`t conform to their religious fanatacism.....

killing women and children is not only acceptable,it`s probably preferrable....the more heinous....the more harrowing....the more terrifying and senseless the better....



There is a common thread over the last 20 years of relentless attacks on America by Muslim extremists: it`s that the attacks have been perpetrated BY muslim extremists....

Sept. 11,2001 the twin towers..



our warship, the USS Cole, was attacked by Muslim extremists.



In 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim extremists, killing 212 people and wounding thousands.



In 1996, Muslim extremists exploded a truck bomb outside an Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia, killing 19 and injuring hundreds more.



In 1995, five Americans were killed in a car bomb explosion executed by Muslim extremists.



In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by Muslim extremists, killing six and injuring thousands.



Also in 1993, Muslim extremists plotted to assassinate then U.S. President George Bush. (Intriguingly, the word "assassin" comes from a Muslim sect active in the 11th to 13th centuries known as "the Assassins" for their religious practice of murdering infidels.)



In 1988, another passenger jet, Pan Am flight 103, was bombed by Muslim extremists, killing 270 people.



In 1986, Muslim extremists bombed a West Berlin discotheque frequented by U.S. servicemen.



In 1985, Muslim extremists seized an Italian cruise ship, the Achille Lauro, and murdered Leon Klinghoffer, a 69-year-old, wheelchair-bound American.



In 1983, Muslim extremists blew up U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, killing 241 American servicemen.



In 1982, Muslim extremists bombed the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 49 people, including 17 Americans.



In 1979, Muslim extremists stormed the U.S. Embassy in Iran and held American Embassy staff hostage for 444 days.


Meanwhile, al-Qaida just keeps on coming. The chairman of a London mosque recently told the British Broadcasting Corp. he believes there are hundreds more Islamic extremists in Britain lying in wait for their chance to become suicide bombers.....


yet,many are still crying that ethnic profiling is not "civilized"....it may not be pleasant,but it`s necessary...how about....

" "Excuse me, sir, but persons of Near Eastern background like yourself are entering the country for purposes of inflicting severe harm, so we ask if you could come inside and answer a few questions and indulge us in a little extra rigorous search of your shoes before boarding the aircraft."

the shoes bit was funny,eh...lol...maybe not.........but,good people of middle eastern descent must realize what the current situation in this country is...if it were me,i wouldn`t mind being scrutinized more closely....i would have nothing to hide and i understand the seriousness of the security issues that face this country....


the truth is,all this carnage and murder hasn`t been executed by "amish" extremists?....

The refusal to make a connection between Muslim extremists and unending violence by Muslim extremists borders on insanity.....

and in wartime this idiocy is life-threatening......make no mistake about it,we are in a war....they want to kill us....

it is inevitable that what happened on 911 will happen again if we let our guard down.....

or a madrid.... probably will happen even if we are extremely vigilant...

but we have to do everything we can to prevent it....it will be harder on those of middle eastern extraction..........that`s an unfortunate fact...


it`s very sad when you have friends and acquaintances that are middle eastern and that an unfair burden may be put on them(hellah is a great example....a guy that is actually a hero and served his country even though i don`t think he agreed with the iraqi situation...i`m surmisng there....he can correct me if i`m wrong)....

very difficult times we live in...
 

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garden - never have and never will agree with any policy that the government enforces....and definatly dont agree with sending millions and millions of troops to Iraq. Fakers are talking about sending me again on a 18 month rotation. Fawk that, I`ll claim conscience(however u spell it) objective.

and if any fawking white, black, asian, anybody profiles me and puts thier hands on me, they will most certainly be beatin to oblivion - luckily Toledo/Detroit area is very Arab friendly. The non-arabs in these areas are welcomed which is coo....but the arabs in Chicago and NYC, man sucks to be them...and I certainly feel for them.

and some have asked me about a beard. The answer is - no, Im not afraid to grow my beard out. In fact, I had it grown out a bit when It got real cold....its not Bin Laden beard...but its damn near close to it. And no, I dont wear a turbine. And yes, I do speak arabic in public....and no, I dont give a shit if people look at me funny.

In fact, people have said "omar, if you dont like this shit...then go back where you came from!" Well Ive actually put some thought into it, and dont be surprised if you all dont find me here one day cuz Im seriously considering moving to Lebanon.

either way, viva the MAC ;)
 

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Re: whether everyone realizes it or not

Re: whether everyone realizes it or not

gardenweasel said:
(Intriguingly, the word "assassin" comes from a Muslim sect active in the 11th to 13th centuries known as "the Assassins" for their religious practice of murdering infidels.)

Im not harping on ya garden...your coo, Ive always liked ya....

buttttt

who told you that?!? :confused:

Ive read the Quran hundereds of time, arabic and english version...and not once have I read that "murdering" is a religion practice. Your not the only person who has said that either, Im just wondering where u guys are getting this from. Taking the words of the Quran and twisting them....thats just wrong. Maybe the extremists say that....but certainly not us "normal" muslims.
 

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Stevie I would be curious of evidence to support your statement.

"Just when did George W get tough on terrorism. It couldn't have been before 911 because that was when he further cut the CIA budget and when he called them off of Bin Laden."

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When is it profiling and when is it prudence.

Chances are 90%+ that a serial killer will be a white male

Blacks comprise about 13 % of population but commit 42% of all homocides.

I don't have the % but chances but I'll lay 2/1 that any deaths that occur world wide where civilians are targeted on purpose it was done by Islam fanatics.

So is it profiling or prudence when looking any of the above to target the segments that are likely to be quilty.
I think it would be quite a waste of time to speculate on black females when looking for serial killer.

When is it justified to be politically correct and disregard the obvious. Noth Dakota-Vermont-Maine and South Dakota have the lowest crime rates they coincidenly have another factor that is lowest in all these states.

Now on to your question Kosar. I have conflicting emotions. I know there are many very good Muslims and hate to have them suffer for actions of few--then again I remember after 911 some of these muslim states cheering collectively--Palestin-Syria ect.
I also read daily in AFP which is Asian and Middle East paper where terrorist occurances go on daily in all countrys and each have basically one common denominator--it involves Muslim fantics.
So we have catch 22 how to seperate the good from the bad. The problem I have is the lack of the good Muslims aiding in policing their own. The INS has failed in sending back those with expired visa's or catching those coming in illegally. So my solution to find who's who is all Muslims would have to go to INS to determine their status and the legitimate be issued cards.If you don't have a card, you don't get on train-plane-rent or buy a car-own property-buy a gun-ect. --and if the rest of the world would follow--instead of having the fanatics making it bad for the majority of Muslims you'd have the majority of Muslims making it bad for the fanatics. I know these are drastic measures but they are drastic times.

---and on Edwards biggot issue.
If theres a fire at a black church-a terrorist bombing- a stabbing in drug deal and I am confronted with 3 suspects-a skin head-black-and muslim it nots going to take me long to decide who my suspects per crime are going to be--if that makes me a profiling biggot--so be it.
 
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