Bush gets skewed on 60 minutes tonight

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this should be interesting, involves Clarke and his new book that just came out. Fair criticism or not, I guess we'll see tonight.



On another note, some dam good tournament games today:)
 

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it`s ashamed

it`s ashamed

that the guy`s not a little more objective....he`s basing 9/11 as the reason for the invasion of iraq.....

i`ve never heard anyone from the administration say that 9/11 was the reason for the invasion....wmd`s?......o.k....but,not 9/11....

bush is getting what he deserves here...that`s what he gets for keeping a clinton guy on the payroll(although in all fairness,he also worked for george sr. and reagan)........
 
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you could be right

you could be right

but he`s selling a book,don`t forget.....

he stabbed clinton in the back after the U.S.S. COLE bombing....

""And in a "60 Minutes" interview set to air Sunday night, Clarke blasts Bush for doing "a terrible job on the war against terrorism."

But just a year ago Clarke was singing a different tune, telling reporter Richard Miniter, author of the book "Losing bin Laden," that it was the Clinton administration - not team Bush - that had dropped the ball on bin Laden.

Clarke, who was a primary source for Miniter's book, detailed a meeting of top Clinton officials in the wake of al Qaeda's attack on the USS Cole in Yemen.

He urged them to take immediate military action. But his advice found no takers.

Reporting on Miniter's book, the National Review summarized the episode:

"At a meeting with Secretary of Defense William Cohen, Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, Attorney General Janet Reno, and other staffers, Clarke was the only one in favor of retaliation against bin Laden."

The list of excuses seemed endless:

"Reno thought retaliation might violate international law and was therefore against it.

"Tenet wanted to more definitive proof that bin Laden was behind the attack, although he personally thought he was.

"Albright was concerned about the reaction of world opinion to a retaliation against Muslims, and the impact it would have in the final days of the Clinton Middle East peace process.

"Cohen, according to Clarke, did not consider the Cole attack 'sufficient provocation' for a military retaliation."

And what about President Clinton? According to what Clarke told Miniter, he rejected the attack plan. Instead Clinton twice phoned the president of Yemen demanding better cooperation between the FBI and the Yemeni security services.

Clarke offered a chillingly prescient quote from one aide who agreed with him about Clinton administration inaction. "What's it going to take to get them to hit al Qaeda in Afghanistan? Does al Qaeda have to attack the Pentagon?" ....

Clarke's testimony before the 9/11 commission will surely boost sales for his new book, "Against All Enemies," which his publisher is releasing on the eve of his appearance before the panel.

The book's bombshell news hook is Clarke's claim that after the 9/11 attacks, President Bush wanted him to look for evidence of Iraqi involvement.

But it's not clear how much politics has tempered his recollections. Clarke certainly sounded partisan on the morning of December 15, when, as the nation was celebrating Saddam Hussein's capture, he was complaining that the brutal dictator's apprehension was actually bad news.

"I don't think it's going to have a near-term positive effect on security," Clarke told ABC's "This Week."

"In the short term, we may have actually a worse problem," he insisted""""".....

sounds like the guy likes the attention...
 
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ouch, sounded like a straight shooter to me. Hadley seemed to be the only one backpeddling to me.
 

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http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/09/25/us.iraq.alqaeda/

The administration did try and connect Saddam to Al Qaeda and used that as the reason for war. Until, it didn't work, and then they talked about chemical weapons, and then liberation. That's my main problem with this administration. They have an agenda and then they try and sell it with whatever works. They've wanted to go into Iraq since the early 90's and then 9/11 gave them the excuse.

Kinda like the tax cut. It's giving back the surplus, no wait . . It's a demand-side stimulus, no wait . . . It's a supply-side policy.

Having said the above, I didn't watch 60 minutes tonight, so I may not be addressing the questions
 

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gw- I always try to be objective, again, I voted for Bush. Don't Mean I have to be pleased with his results, frankly I'm not.

Precisely what Mr. Clarke stated has been my personal opinion and conflict with Bush policy for some time. As far as politics go this guy seemed about as straight shooter as you'll find. Hired by Reagan, served 3 republicans 1 Democrat.

Steven Hadley attempted to lie regarding Clarke comment regarding 9/11-Iraq, Leslie said they had 2 independent witnesses of their own, he changed his tune.

hey Bush wants to centerpiece his reelection around 9/11, he deserves the criticism. And that was some MAJOR CRITICISM.



ANOTHER NOTE: should be some decent fights coming up
 

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why hasn`t anyone

why hasn`t anyone

commented on clarke`s allegation regarding clinton dropping the "bin laden ball?"..i never saw that on 60 minutes...i wonder why????...lol

and bobby,i disagree that that was a rationale for going into iraq...it was not....it might be the misconception of a moronic,uninformed minority of the public....i never heard anyone in the administration use that as rationale...although behind closed doors,i feel that they do believe that among all the despotic regimes in the middle east,that saddam posed the greatest potential threat to create havoc...

who exactly was it that stated this?.....

and shammy....i was joking around...no offense intended.....
 
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He did make reference to Clinton dropping the ball. The difference is that Clinton isn't running for re-election based on his great terrorist record. Clinton also didn't attack Iraq and say that they were the cause of 9/11, or that they were the force behind al-Queda.........The fact of the matter is that Bush knew, and he was in office for 230 days and was told of the " excessive chatter" from al-Queda and not only didn't do anything about it, but now that they blew up two buildings and thousands of lives he is using his "tough stance on terror" as his re-election tool. That's the difference.
 

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Re: why hasn`t anyone

Re: why hasn`t anyone

gardenweasel said:
and bobby,i disagree that that was a rationale for going into iraq...it was not....it might be the misconception of a moronic,uninformed minority of the public....i never heard anyone in the administration use that as rationale...

GW,

I posted a link in my above post that talked about Rice's comments and referenced Bush's and Rummy's agreement w/ Iraq - Al Qaeda ties. I can get their quotes if you need them, but the comments were said.
 

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show me where bush or the administration said that iraq was the cause of 9/11......

bobby...i think that the jury is still out on whether iraq or any other middle eastern country has ties to al qaida or any other fringe terrorist organization....how do you know?...

but that was not the rationale for going into iraq....believe it..



maybe bush had a hard on for saddam due to the attempted assasination ofb his father....you can argue that...

but,that iraq was the cause of 9/11?.....who said that?....i ask again...
 
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Dear Mr. Speaker: (Dear Mr. President: )

Consistent with section 3(b) of the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Public Law 107-243), and based on information available to me, including that in the enclosed document, I determine that:

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic and other peaceful means alone will neither (A) adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq nor (B) likely lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and

(2) acting pursuant to the Constitution and Public Law 107-243 is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

Sincerely,

GEORGE W. BUSH http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030319-1.html
 

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I was hoping to find a thread open for those of you who saw 60 Minutes tonight, otherwise I was going to start one. Unfortunately, after viewing the posts, I realize that is an endless issue of Reps vs. Dems. The Reps are going to defend Bush no matter what evidence is contributed to contradict his actions. How can you honestly watch Hadley and tell me his only requirement for that interview was anything but to defend Bush? I found him laughable. And just to be clear, I'm not a Leftist looking for anything to persecute Bush. I have voted for both parties. I find it very peculiar that Reps are quick to bash Clark after he was a member of the Reagan (aka Republican god). I think that speaks a lot for itself.

And as far as selling books...do you really think this guy needs a New York Times bestseller to better his life?

Ok...flame away....

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