2003 Power Rankings

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KEY: PR=Final power rating, PS=Pre-season power rating, SOS=strength of schedule.


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Rank Team PR PS SOS PF PA Wins Losses Pct Conference
1 Louisiana State .896 .683 .636 33.93 11.00 13 1 .929 SEC
2 Southern California .869 .753 .608 41.08 18.38 12 1 .923 Pac 10
3 Oklahoma .852 .826 .642 42.93 15.29 12 2 .857 Big 12
4 Miami (Ohio) .832 .554 .506 43.00 19.43 13 1 .929 MAC
5 Georgia .829 .783 .764 26.50 14.50 11 3 .786 SEC
6 Florida State .819 .793 .773 32.23 16.69 10 3 .769 ACC
7 Miami (Florida) .810 .879 .625 27.77 15.08 11 2 .846 Big East
8 Ohio State .801 .803 .688 24.77 17.62 11 2 .846 Big Ten
9 Michigan .797 .774 .636 35.38 16.85 10 3 .769 Big Ten
10 Boise State .784 .675 .306 42.93 17.07 13 1 .929 WAC
11 Iowa .775 .678 .633 28.62 16.15 10 3 .769 Big Ten
12 Kansas State .765 .783 .548 36.60 16.27 11 4 .733 Big 12
13 Texas .765 .805 .587 41.00 21.54 10 3 .769 Big 12
14 Tennessee .763 .729 .626 28.08 18.38 10 3 .769 SEC
15 Maryland .759 .694 .586 31.23 15.85 10 3 .769 ACC
16 Mississippi .746 .598 .571 34.00 21.92 10 3 .769 SEC
17 Washington State .744 .690 .577 30.31 19.77 10 3 .769 Pac 10
18 Florida .740 .769 .750 30.00 20.85 8 5 .615 SEC
19 Utah .740 .523 .498 28.67 19.08 10 2 .833 MWC
20 Nebraska .739 .710 .529 24.77 14.46 10 3 .769 Big 12
21 Clemson .719 .622 .645 28.08 19.23 9 4 .692 ACC
22 Arkansas .717 .663 .648 33.54 23.46 9 4 .692 SEC
23 Purdue .716 .633 .611 26.85 17.31 9 4 .692 Big Ten
24 Bowling Green State .714 .531 .482 33.57 21.71 11 3 .786 MAC
25 Minnesota .713 .570 .444 38.69 21.92 10 3 .769 Big Ten
26 Texas Christian .690 .625 .325 29.23 21.23 11 2 .846 CUSA
27 Auburn .681 .693 .669 26.31 16.31 8 5 .615 SEC
28 Virginia .677 .620 .654 28.00 20.38 8 5 .615 ACC
29 North Carolina State .673 .684 .648 37.62 29.62 8 5 .615 ACC
 

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Since 1998 these teams have played the fewest ranked teams of all the BCS eligible teams.

Duke 15
North Carolina 16
Maryland 16
Wake Forest 16
Rutgers 16
Oregon State 18
Mississippi St. 18
Temple 19
Mississippi 19
Virginia Tech 19
Pittsburgh 19
N. C. State 19

Top 25 number of played from 98:

Florida 39
Michigan 36
Ohio St. 34
Auburn 32
Colorado 32
LSU 31
Alabama 31
Georgia 31
Miami (Fla.) 30
Tennessee 30
Virginia 29
Penn St. 29
Purdue 29
South Carolina 29
Michigan St. 29
Florida St. 28
Washington 28
UCLA 27
Notre Dame 27
Wisconsin 26
Nebraska 26
Texas Tech 26
Texas 26
Kentucky 26
Iowa 26

Scotty where are your Trojans and Pac 10 buddies???
Peck 10---2,,,,,SEC---8
 

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wareagle :nono:

Time for me to flex my muscles!!! :D

You obviously do not know that the SEC contrives its high rankings by playing a bunch of nobodies. SEC inflates their rankings by playing a weak schedule, then beating up on the bad teams in the league to produce five or six top 25 teams. Therefore, the SEC conference plays a lot of teams ranked in the top 25.

Note: this was compiled before last year's bowl games.

The SEC played only 68 games against BCS teams (28%) vs. the Pac-10's 85 games against BCS teams (41%). 12 teams on average played less than one game a year against BCS competition in nonconference play, while the Pac-10 played an average of one and a half BCS teams a year over the past six years. Against BCS competition, the SEC had a losing record over the past six years, going 30-38 (44%). The Pac-10 had a winning record against BCS teams, going 46-39 (54%).

The SEC was 151-24 in games against nonconference teams that weren't in the BCS conferences (86%). Even the bad teams in the SEC prop up SOS for the good teams by playing horrible teams that guarantee them wins.

Over that same period, the SEC was 21-20 in their bowl games, certainly not dominant like they all claim to be.

In case your a little "slow," I will spell it out to you how the system works. BCS and POLLS value wins more than anything. More wins you have, the higher ranking you will get. SOS, AWAY/HOME games do not carry as much weight. (Beating a 100th ranked division 1 school is worth more than losing by 1pt to a top 10 div. 1 school on the road) The SEC is not breaking any rules for beating the system, but this is the explanation as to why there are so many SEC teams ranked in the top 25. I am not gullible like many of you are and I will not proclaim this conference superior to anyone for the following reasons above. In addition, SEC is a 12 team conference, and the better teams in the conference often miss out on playing each other. If the SEC was deserving of such high rankings, WHY DO THEY HAVE A LOSING RECORD AGAINST BCS competition and are only 21-20 in BOWL GAMES??? The PAC 10 has a different philosophy and PAC 10 fans generally DO NOT support their teams beating up on pansy oppononts. Fans of the SEC are more passionate about football and they get joy out of beating a 90th ranked opponent by 40pts. Makes them feel superior. Which conference to you respect more? Pac 10 who plays TOUGH OOC OPPONENTS or SEC WHO PLAYS CRAP OOC OPPONENTS? Saying the SEC conference schedule is so tough there is no need for tough OOC schedule is absurd. CAL lost 6 games last season, if they played LSU SCHEDULE last year, CAL WOULD NOT LOSE MORE THAN 6 GAMES. I think CAL at most would lose 2-4 games. Your tricked into thinking the SEC conference is so superior because so many teams are ranked and have many wins. You fail to realize why so many teams are ranked and have so many wins. Again, if the SEC conference is so tough, why does the SEC have a losing record against BCS competition and are only 21-20 in Bowl Games?


Pac-10 vs. SEC past four years

Went back over the records of the two conferences and how they fared against BCS conference and Notre Dame over the past four years (since 2000). Here is what I found.

Pac-10 was 34-34 vs. BCS competition. SEC was 32-35. Of the 67 games against BCS conference competition, 23 were played because they were bowl games, and another 15 were played because of rivalry games (Georgia vs. Georgia Tech [ACC], Florida vs Miami and FSU [Big East, ACC] and South Carolina vs. Clemson [ACC]). That means the 12 teams of the SEC scheduled 29 games against BCS competition in four years, or a little more than one game every other year per team. The Pac-10 played 15 of its 68 games against BCS competition because of bowl games, and another four were from a rivalry game (USC vs. Notre Dame). That means the ten teams of the Pac-10 scheduled 49 games over four years, a one and a quarter games a year per team.
The SEC was 1-0 vs. Notre Dame, 16-11 vs. the ACC, 8-4 vs. the Big Ten, 4-8 vs. the Big East, 3-6 vs. Big XII and 1-6 vs. the Pac-10. That's right, the SEC's worst record against any one conference over the last four years comes against the Pac-10. Only LSU's victory against one of the worst Pac-10 teams in recent memory, this year's Arizona team, puts a W in the victory column against the Pac-10. Other losses were Auburn to USC (twice), Alabama to UCLA (twice) and Mississippi St. to Oregon (twice).

The Pac-10 was 12-12 vs. the Big Ten, 9-10 vs. the Big XII, 4-4 vs. Notre Dame, 3-4 vs. the Big East, 0-3 vs. the ACC and 6-1 vs. the SEC.

And the quality of teams the Pac-10 played was much better than the quality of teams that the SEC played. In the Big Ten, the Pac-10 played Michigan, Ohio St., Purdue and Wisconsin four times, Illinois three times, Iowa twice, and Penn St., Michigan St. and Indiana once. Only five of those games were because they met in bowl games The SEC played Michigan three times, Ohio St. twice, Penn St., Illinois and Minnesota once and Indiana four times. Eight of those games were played in bowl games. The only games scheduled against Big Ten competitition were the four times that Mississippi played Indiana, a time that Indiana went 12-34.

In the Big XII, the Pac-10 played Colorado six times, Kansas St. four times, Texas three times, Oklahoma twice, Nebraska, Oklahoma St., Baylor and Kansas once. Only five of those 19 games were the result of bowl games. The SEC played Oklahoma three times and Kansas St., Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Nebraska and Iowa St. once. Six of those nine games were bowl games.

The only BCS conference that the SEC routinely scheduled for games out of conference was against the ACC, and again, 12 of those games were rivalry games against members of that conference (South Carolina/Clemson, UGA/GTech, Florida/FSU). Throw in another six that were bowl games, and the SEC played only nine games against the ACC that weren't rivalry or bowl games.

Still, the record pretty much speaks for itself: the SEC's worst winning percentage against BCS conferences comes against the weak Pac-10. Try and spin that one away. When it comes right down to it, the Pac-10 will go out and play tough competition, and holds its own-- even its lesser teams. Arkansas has played only two BCS conference teams in the past four years, and those were both in bowl games. Mississippi St. has played only three, one of them being a victory over Texas A&M in a bowl game, and the other two losses to Oregon (Pac-10). Mississippi has also played only three BCS conference teams in the past four years, and two of those were in bowl games. Kentucky scheduled four games against Indiana, and that's the only OOC BCS teams they've played. Bama has played five OOC BCS games and is 1-4 (the victory was in a bowl game, the losses were scheduled OOC games).

In the Pac-10, Arizona (worst team in the Pac-10 the past four years) has played four OOC BCS teams, none in bowl games (Ohio St., Wisconsin, LSU and Purdue). Cal has played Illinois (twice), Rutgers, Baylor, Michigan St. and Kansas St. (no bowl games). Stanford has played Texas, Boston College (twice), Notre Dame three times and Georgia Tech (bowl game). Only Oregon St. has done what the SEC routinely does, and that is avoid BCS conference teams except in bowl games.

The fact that the Pac-10 is .500 in its out of conference BCS conference games is quite remarkable, considering that most of the games were not in bowl games. What is truly pathetic is how the SEC keeps claiming how superior they are, but against BCS conference competition, they have a losing record over the past four years. It's obvious that the conference inflates its importance by beating up on patsy OOC opponents and racking up victories that are then used to bolster its superiority claims. If every team has at least eight wins, it has to be a good conference, right? Uh-huh. Sure. The bowl record says they are 12-12, while the Pac-10 turned out to be 8-9.
 

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LETS COMPARE CAL vs LSU season schedules.

CAL lost 6 games last season while LSU lost 1 game.

CAL?s OOC opponents

@ #10 Kansas St. (in Kansas City)
Southern Miss
Colorado St.
@ #25 Utah
@ Illinois

THAT IS A FREAKING TOUGH OOC SCHEDULE. 3/5 games on the road and they went 2-3 in OOC play. 4 of the 5 OOC opponents were BOWL TEAMS this season.

The 3 Pac 10 teams they lost too were:

Oregon St.
@UCLA
@Oregon

All 3 were bowl teams and they lost to UCLA and Oregon on the road by 3pts and 4pts. In addition, they beat USC during the season which only 2 other teams in 2 years have been able to do!!!


If CAL played the BCS NC LSU schedule, these are the teams who CAL would have played for an OOC schedule:

Louisiana Monroe :lol:
@Arizona :lol: (down year for Arizona and horrible coach)
Western Illinois :lol:
Louisiana Tech :lol:

CAL would have smoked all 4 OOC teams, so CAL would have had ZERO OOC losses and CAL would have made the top 25 rankings. Instead, CAL played TOUGH OOC SCHEDULE, and lost 3 times and no way would rank in the top 25.

In LSU?s regular season schedule, CAL prob. would have lost too Georgia (just like LSU should have lost to UGA, LSU was completely dominated in that game) and CAL would have had good evenly matched games against Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Florida (however, FL was playing poorly when LSU lost to them and had frosh QB)

So if CAL played mighty LSU schedule (#1 team in the SEC), CAL "at most" would have had 4 losses, but realistically prob. 2-3 losses last year. With some luck, CAL prob. could run the table with that schedule or lose 1 game like LSU did. Remember, CAL was able to beat USC, so they can compete with anybody and ?could? beat UGA or anybody in the SEC.

In addition, 4 out of the 5 toughest games for LSU were played @HOME, so that would make things easy for CAL. How nice was that for LSU to have 4/5 toughest conference games played at home and 3/4 OOC games also at home against piss poor OOC competition. LSU is damn lucky BCS does not distinguish between home and away games. :lol:

This is a great example of the difference between SEC and PAC 10. If CAL played in the SEC and scheduled the way the SEC schedules, CAL without a doubt would have a better record vs playing in the PAC and the way the Pac 10 schedules OOC opponents. LSU was the SEC conference champs and CAL would have had an easier time playing LSU?s schedule. If CAL did play LSU?s schedule, CAL would have had a higher top 25 ranking. GREAT EXAMPLE!!!! :cool:
 

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Get a life Scott. I mean you are bragging about a middle of the road team in Cal. They probably will improve under Tedford but until they step up, stop pumping them up. You look ridiculous doing so.
 

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Nice intelligent post. You sure added quality info to this thread. :lol:
 
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Scott4USC

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Scott you need to get a life.

You obviously do not know that this is a COLLEGE FOOTBALL FORUM. Why do you feel compelled to give your personal opinion about me and offer personal advice? Why can't you talk college football? If you have nothing productive to say, don't say anything at all! :nooo:

You obviously are threatened by my posts otherwise YOU would not waste YOUR time offering YOUR opinion about me when this is a College Football forum. You do not have the intelligence to debate with me so you post worthless replies telling me to get a life. GROW UP and your worthless opinion of me has NOTHING to do with COLLEGE FOOTBALL! I look down upon you so your opinion about me holds no value. Look at your 2 posts in this thread. NOTHING PRODUCTIVE and both posts clearly show a lack of intelligence on your part.

By the way, my post comparing CAL and LSU was not intended to hype CAL. I was showing how CAL lost 6 games playing their schedule last season and how CAL would have had a better record playing LSU's schedule. Since you think CAL is "a middle of the road team", that further supports my opinion. A middle of the road team would have had more success playing BCS NC's LSU's schedule vs. playing their own schedule. :eek:
 
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I'm not even going to read your gag fest. The 2003 season is OVER, let it go already. Jesus grow up.
 

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Arkansas has played only two BCS conference teams in the past four years, and those were both in bowl games.

I assume you are talking about Arkansas' non-conference schedule (as usual)? In either case you are wrong (as usual).

Didn't Arkansas spank the sh-t out of Texas last year in a regular season game?


Scott,
When you spew bullshit info like this, why should anyone take your posts seriously?

:nooo:

Good day.

Stuman
 

Scott4USC

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Your right, Arkansas did play Texas and beat them. Thanks for correcting me.

Scott, When you spew bullshit info like this, why should anyone take your posts seriously?

1 error and that makes the post bullshit? :D Your too funny. :lol: Not putting Texas in the post hardly skewed the numbers. Nice arguments by your part, oh wait, you have no arguments. :nono:

People have no choice but to take my posts seriously. If you don't, your ignorant. I provide my opinion and then support it. Nobody here can counter argue the facts presented in front of you. NOBODY! In addition to everybody failing to counter argue the facts presented, nobody can support their own opinion. That is a shame, but I guess if that is all you have is an opinion, that is all you can give. :D
 
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