Lakers will win the NBA Championship

[HighRoller]

It is destiny that Malone and Payton win the championship...As shown in their series with the defending champs who were up 2-0. This Laker team is the best in the league when they play as a TEAM.

Taking the Lakers to win it all !

 

[THE KOD]

HR

Did this one hit you out of the blue like a lightning bolt ?

just wondering

KOD

 

[vinnie]

HR

Did this one hit you out of the blue like a lightning bolt ?

just wondering

KOD

:142lmao: :142lmao: :142lmao:

 

[countinguy]

HR,

I am really glad to hear u state this!!!
It makes me feel so much better about the east!!:thefinger :thefinger

 

[pt1gard]

isnt it more like

isnt it more like

when shaq shoots 64% for series he once again proves he's by far the best player on the planet? not to mention his 20 blocks and 59 rbs. in their four wins.

i dont like LA, but have always laffed when people try to verbally hammer Shaq (he came close to setting a NBA record for shooting % for series if he didnt--need some fact checker here

hes still the man, the Jupiter Effect, Moons gravitate and he frees others, simple as that--and, yes, i realize hes a joke at the line, in end it really doesnt matter

i do think Lakers will be tested in any series but prob pull it out

gl to all
gregg

 

[maverick2112]

I would'nt bet the house just yet.................remember if Fishers shot doesnt go then we are on our way to SA with game 7..........also I dont know how many remember this play but Sa was up 2 with the ball with under like a minute left and Parker shoots from top of the key and I swear it is in and somehow rattles out..........if it goes then Sa up by 4 with like 50 seconds left and possibly the series...........kudos to the Lakers but they did have a few breaks in the pivotal game 5..............

 

[KsYaS]

remember if Fishers shot doesnt go then we are on our way to SA with game 7........

also if duncan shot doesnt go wasnt neccesary another crazy shot!

 

[EMJ32]

Bring on the RING!!!

 

[pt1gard]

the forgotten shot of series might be

the forgotten shot of series might be

Luke Walton's trey in game 5 ... WTF was that

if spurs were good enuff they woulda found a way ... they are my fave team but Turgs is a joke and TP shot 23/73 after being annointed after first 2 wins; and what was deal with POP and Rose, he was HUGE LY in playoffs--now hes guarding Gatorade supply ... Bottom line, other than Gino's hustle, and with TD going in monstrous draughts, spurs had no firepower (Brown ended being their GOTO); LA outplayed them entire series and deserved to win; SHAQ will prob get another finals MVP (tho a possible letdown could happen, but w/o Bobby Jackson I dont see Sac doing it; and Minny has papier mache at the 5)

gl gregg

 

[IntenseOperator]

Re: isnt it more like

Re: isnt it more like

when shaq shoots 64% for series he once again proves he's by far the best player on the planet? not to mention his 20 blocks and 59 rbs. in their four wins.

i dont like LA, but have always laffed when people try to verbally hammer Shaq (he came close to setting a NBA record for shooting % for series if he didnt--need some fact checker here

hes still the man, the Jupiter Effect, Moons gravitate and he frees others, simple as that--and, yes, i realize hes a joke at the line, in end it really doesnt matter

i do think Lakers will be tested in any series but prob pull it out

gl to all
gregg

During one or two Laker possessions before Fisher's shot, Shaq had the ball off the side of the key, with only Duncan on him, and nobody else close. Does he, as the best player in the league, take an aggressive offensive move thru or around Duncan? No way. He sits on the ball for five seconds or so and doesn't want to have anything to do with the moment. The man can't shoot free throws. The next time down, you know Koby is shooting. This almost cost the Lakers this game and most likely the series. I will never rate Shaq with the top players of all time. He is not even close to a being a go to guy when it's crunch time. He's usually not even on the floor then.

 

[THE KOD]

Re: Re: isnt it more like

Re: Re: isnt it more like

I will never rate Shaq with the top players of all time. He is not even close to a being a go to guy when it's crunch time. He's usually not even on the floor then.

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IO

the go to guy thing is not Shaq's role on the team. They have others for that.

Shaq's overall dominance and play has to have him rated as a top player. At least the top ten to fifteen.

KOD

 

[pt1gard]

top 10 or 15

top 10 or 15

and not in the best of all time?

why do people downtalk Shaq when he is 7'1 350 and moves like ballerina for his size; Im not shaq's biggest fan, in fact i despise the Lakers, but I have coached for 25 years and watched nba/college/hs all my life and one thing is for certain: shaq is the focal point in every game he starts, the key man, the fulcrum to all LA does; no one can match up to him ... denigrate him all you want, say it's b/c hes as big as Transamerica building, it doesnt matter; he changes the game, alters geometry in all sorts of ways no one has since Jabbar and Wilt's heyday (whom coincidentally the public loved to rip at every opportunity)

Poll execs right now for a one 7 game series and ask who would they take first, right now, not for future, or past.

this is only one man's perception :shrug:

gl gregg

 

[freelancc]

Re: the forgotten shot of series might be

Re: the forgotten shot of series might be

Luke Walton's trey in game 5 ... WTF was that

that was for Brittany..

 

[ticali24]

why do people downtalk Shaq when he is 7'1 350 and moves like ballerina for his size;

Has Shaq "ever" led the NBA in rebounding? NO

Do the Lakers look to go to Shaq in crunch time? NO

Can Shaq make free throws? NO

Has Shaq improved his free throw shooting? NO

Is Shaq lazy? YES

Does Shaq move around on defense? NO

Does Shaq show up overweight every season? YES

Did Shaq go to Chick Hearns funeral? NO (classy fellow Oneal is)

*How about this Shaq quote, if they feed me the ball and get me involved early I will play tougher defense.

*How about during the beginning of this season Shaq was crying about his contract and wanted "more" money. Oh, I guess he was not aware Malone and Payton signed to play for less money.

*How about another quote from Shaq last season. Shaq said he should not have surgery in the off-season but have it during company time (during the season). What kind of teamate is that? Shaq delayed foot surgery hurting his team.

*How about Shaq always refering to himself as the "general" etc... and how he controls/leads the team. What kind of leader is that? Why can't he lead by example? I am glad his teamates do not follow him.

Poll execs right now for a one 7 game series and ask who would they take first, right now, not for future, or past.

Depending on their team needs, I think execs would take either Kobe or Duncan.

Detroit-Kobe
Indiana-Kobe
Minnesota- Kobe
Spurs- Kobe
Nets- Duncan
Kings-Duncan
Miami- Duncan

 

[british bulldog]

Here's a team of prima-donnas that think they have a god damn right to win by just turning up.

Wouldn't say Lakers won the series over Spurs. It was more of a case of Spurs losing the series.

LA didn't play great defense, perhaps they didn't have to as most calls by officials went to the team in murve (or yellow). Heck, it's the same every year so why expect anything different.

If Parker had picked and rolled and brought his team mates into the game more from game three onwards instead of trying to be the one-man show that he isn't capable of being on a game in game out basis then this series would have been over in five games.

Lakers will have to shoot better than 60% from the charity stripe if they want to progress to the championship. Sacramento will out shoot them and Minnesota are certainly a match for them.

Lets not forget the poor relations of the East. This year they may just have a real pretender in the form of Detroit. Second best "D" in NBA and can shoot the hoops when they need to.

Doesn't take much to state the obvious with the Lakers. Started at around +250 and must now be +100 at best. Even with Malone and Payton in the line up, the bench sucks and is about as deep as a kids paddling pool. All I hear over here in the UK is how good this Lakers side is. Yeah, on paper it looks good with the front 5-6 players, however, asking a lot for these players to keep going 40 minutes a game every game under playoff conditions.

This Laker side falls well short of previous Laker sides from the early 90,s and 2000's.

For once we have a great opportunity to make $$$$$ from here on in by fading the Lakers on the spreads. If they make it through to the championship game and meet either Detroit or Indiana, what spread will the Lakers be at home -13 or more? according to the power ratings thats the difference between the Lakers and the best from the East.

-13 LARGE NUMBER TO COVER.

 

[pt1gard]

so ...

so ...

ticali: you list Kobe and TD as players the GMs pick before shaq for a 7 game series; I strongly disagree, you'd better go check Lakers' record w/o Shaq, then check it w/o Kobe--those staggering Numbers don't lie )... Keep nitpicking but the truth is he's by far the best player in NBA, esp. in the playoffs (and 20 blox in last 4 games wasnt enuff for you?) and, ultimately,winning is all that counts and seems like Shaq got Finals MVP each time he appeared as Laker

Bulldog: the Lakers didn't play good defense? Game six they worked their asses off the entire game and won series on D--the Lakers held TP to 23/73 in their four wins, turned Turgs into a girl, and clamped TD for boggling stretches ...

anyhow, love to see others like Box-and-one and old timers opinion who the #1 pick would be for a series today

gl, gregg

 

[ticali24]

I strongly disagree, you'd better go check Lakers' record w/o Shaq, then check it w/o Kobe--those staggering Numbers don't lie )...

That is your argument? That is a very poor argument to make.

How many 7ft centers do the Lakers have? 1
-There are no other centers on the Lakers roster. So I would certainly hope that the Lakers record would be a lot worse without Shaq vs without Kobe. Lakers have many players on the roster who can play outside, but Lakers have ZERO centers replacing Shaq and very "limited" inside players playing power forward. Malone hardly plays inside, and forget about Slava, Cook, etc. I thought you knew and watched basketball? Guess your not familiar with this Laker team. Basically the only inside presence they have is SHAQ, but you can argue they have multiple outside players. Your argument does not support why any team exec would choose Shaq over Duncan or Kobe. I would take Duncan because he can hurt you inside/outside, better free throw shooter, plays with heart, hustles, better defender, and better all around game/player.

ultimately,winning is all that counts and seems like Shaq got Finals MVP each time he appeared as Laker

Again, do you watch the NBA??? Every final the Lakers took part in, they played a team "without" a legitimate center. It is expected that Shaq (a dominating center) would dominate a team who does not have a legitimate center. Too bad Shaq could not dominate Hakeem (a legitimate center) in the finals when he was with Orlando. I guess you were impressed with the Sixers, Nets and Pacers inside presence at the time.

Keep nitpicking but the truth is he's by far the best player in NBA, esp. in the playoffs

No, I would not currently say he is the top player in the NBA. You asked why do people put down Shaq. I told why and you call that nitpicking? Interesting. Why can't you defend Shaq for not "once" leading the NBA in rebounds? His piss poor free throw shooting and his decline in %? Constantly showing up overweight (except the year he 1st won title)? Being lazy on defense? Delaying surgery which hurts his team? Only playing tough defense if he gets the ball on offense? Complaining to the media about not being paid enough? Does this sound like the best player in the NBA?

 

[pt1gard]

i not only watch nba

i not only watch nba

I understand hoops, and your argument is not leading nba in rbs is criteria? :shrug: ... Jabbar led the nba in rebounding once, as did truck robinson, michael cage, swen nater and bill laimbeer--i dont think they are HOFs

sounds like to me you are a Kobe lover, which is great ... but dont delude yourself into thinking he's more valuable than shaq ... more exciting in hang time, twists and turns, thats your call, more valuable, not even close, and you answered that in your camouflage saying how many 7 footers does LA have?--bottom line is: IF Shaq is out vs Kobe missing, I beleive the team (the actual #) loses 20% more games ... its all about winning, not style, not weight, not attending funerals and grabbing rb. titles ... as far as getting finals MVP, who does have legit centers? and Rockets had better team, unless you are a Penny man, and Akeem at time was best in biz and a vet, shaq a baby, so that argument is pretty ludicrous ...

I think you gotta ask yourself why you cant credit him, hehe

again is Shaq my idol etc? hardly--but he is the best

heres my email; if you wanna persude me further so we dont waste any more MJ space

pt1gard@aol.com

gl, gregg

ps hey no hard feelings, U have passion thats great

 

[gmblnman]

Shaq is lazy, say what you will. But when the time comes he does focus at the task and does take care of business. lakers will take it all this year, that is obvious. Shaq is in alot of trouble and prussure without Kobe next year if it does happen. Then the questions will start and his lazy attitude will come back to kick him in the a**.

 

[ticali24]

I am a Laker fan, and I am glad Shaq is on the Lakers, however I do not respect him for the reasons I posted. You asked why are people down on Shaq, and I gave you the reasons. Very little to respect/admire about Shaq. Without question he is the most dominant player under the basket, but that is where it ends in his dominance. So many other players can dominate on a "regular" basis in multiple areas, NOT SHAQ!

Since you say you know so much about hoops, why do you have such a hard time understanding that missing a 7ft player (with no backups) is harder to replace than missing a 6.6 player with many backups. You do not understand that? That is the reason Lakers have a better record with Kobe out vs Shaq out. Very easy to understand if you have any understanding about the game of basketball. Big guys are tough to find/replace, while outside players are a dime a dozen. In addition, the Laker situation is an extreme, since Lakers have no inside game outside of Shaq and no backup centers. So of course the Lakers will struggle with Shaq out more than anybody. That is why it is a poor argument on your part and I pointed that out.

BTW, Shaq never won anything until Kobe came to the Lakers and I would bet that Kobe could manage to win without Shaq. DO NOT BRING UP YOUR SILLY ARGUMENT WITH LAKERS RECORD WITHOUT SHAQ because Shaq makes over $20million so by no means can you judge how well Kobe would do without Shaq. In addition, Lakers have piss poor role players who cannot create their own shots.

No hard feelings taken, that is what this forum and madjacks is all about. I do not understand why you feel this is wasted space on madjacks. It is not and if it were, madjacks would move it.