can ANYONE plllleeaase HELLLLPPPP :D

BahamaMama

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you're right kick...it IS messed up :(

i've tried EVERYTHING i could think of to get an advantage towards figuring it out, and all it does is mess me up even more :(

i've done screen captures while it is sitting on 12, screen captures while it is sitting on 13, screen captures while it is in midstream *switch* mode, cut APART the midstream after printing all pages.... placed them in both positions possible, and STILL can't tell WTF is happening.


when someone finally posts the solution, i'm probably gonna be in tears after looking at it so long and not being able to figure it out!!!!
 

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Ok bahama mama i think i've got it...explaining it may be a bit trickier!

First off, we are going to divide the screen into zones.

In zone 1, we have the left most column (3 people) and the one next to it on the right (2) people. That's a total of 5 people.

In zone 2, we have the middle column at the start, which has only 2 people.

In zone 3, we will have the right two columns, the first of which has 3 people in it, the last on the right having two.

This is all at the start, so hopefully you are with me. Here is a screenshot, with M standing for a person.

M_M____M___M_M
M_M____M___M_M
M__________)M

z1_____z2____z3


Now, here is what happens. The top halves of the people in zone 1 move onto the top halves of people in zone 3. But there is nothing special about that, because zone 3 starts with five people, and ends up with five people. The next move is the trick.

In the second movement, the top halfs of the people in zone 2 and 3 (7 total people...see above pic) are only placed on the bottom halves of 6 people from zone 1 and 2. The man on the bottom left is the key. On the first move, he loses a slice of his head when the tops of zone 1 move onto zone 3. But when the tops of zones 2 and 3 move onto 1 and 2, nothing ever replaces on top of him. If you watch it after reading this and look for these things you should see it.

Does that make any sense whatsoever?
 
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KotysDad

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Re: can ANYONE plllleeaase HELLLLPPPP :D

Mama,

Anyone who can succinctly express this solution can probably obtain a PhD is mathematics on the spot. It hasnt been done yet. Alot of people have made alot of observations about this solution, all of them on the right track, but I havent seen anyone yet fully solve the optical trick it plays on your mind. Here are two links where two people attempt to explain their version. They do a decent job, but neither fully solves the problem. You arent the only one stumped. This solution hasnt been provided yet to fully account for everything that's going on. Read for yourself.

http://www.mystrealm.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1563

In the above link, "Snowman" does a decent job but doestn fully explain it.

http://jroller.com/page/bioye/20031204

This one's a bit more mathematical, but he even admits to having unanswered questions about the solution.
 

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TBONEZ0295 said:
MAMA you have alot of time on your hands this evening?????:D

T ----- i'm in Iowa with the storms, what can i say???? LOL

visiting the relatives, and this mess is my DAD's fault :(

saint and kd, i'll print out your explanation right now, and try and read it in the a.m. when it may make more sense ;)
 
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