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Lightning said:
No doubt. I'll just have to vote for the one who hasn't proven (yet) to be totally corrupt and incompetent as a President. I don't think he has much of a chance in 4 years to clean up all the messes that he will have been left with, but maybe he won't screw us up worse. If Bush is re-elected, that's a certainty.
fletcher said:
fletch could you call me????? or email??????
RAYMOND BUSH SUCKS!!!!!!! :scared moon1 :weed:
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"No doubt. I'll just have to vote for the one who hasn't proven (yet) to be totally corrupt and incompetent as a President"
I have to assume you did not vote for Slick for 2nd term then.
While they have yet to prove Bush corrupt (unless you have some proof) last adminstration is clear cut.
---and on competence---I think you forgot it took this admin less time to occupy 2 countries than last adminstration to conquer rag tag outfit in Wacko--and then had to tourch women and children to get job done---- and Somollia --they drag our soilders thru sreet and burn them and our fearless leader cuts and runs----Hmm He'd be shoe in if he decided to run again in Spain or Phillipines.
I have to assume you did not vote for Slick for 2nd term then.
While they have yet to prove Bush corrupt (unless you have some proof) last adminstration is clear cut.
---and on competence---I think you forgot it took this admin less time to occupy 2 countries than last adminstration to conquer rag tag outfit in Wacko--and then had to tourch women and children to get job done---- and Somollia --they drag our soilders thru sreet and burn them and our fearless leader cuts and runs----Hmm He'd be shoe in if he decided to run again in Spain or Phillipines.
Clinton Adviser Probed in Terror Memos
Clinton Adviser Probed in Terror Memos
By JOHN SOLOMON
WASHINGTON - President Clinton (news - web sites)'s national security adviser, Sandy Berger, is the focus of a criminal investigation after admitting he removed highly classified terrorism documents from a secure reading room during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings, The Associated Press has learned.
Berger's home and office were searched earlier this year by FBI (news - web sites) agents armed with warrants. Some drafts of a sensitive after-action report on the Clinton administration's handling of al-Qaida terror threats during the December 1999 millennium celebration are still missing.
Berger and his lawyer said Monday night he knowingly removed handwritten notes he had taken from classified anti-terror documents he reviewed at the National Archives by sticking them in his jacket and pants. He also inadvertently took copies of actual classified documents in a leather portfolio, they said.
"I deeply regret the sloppiness involved, but I had no intention of withholding documents from the commission, and to the contrary, to my knowledge, every document requested by the commission from the Clinton administration was produced," Berger said in a statement to the AP.
Berger served as Clinton's national security adviser for all of the president's second term and most recently has been informally advising Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites). Clinton asked Berger last year to review and select the administration documents that would be turned over to the commission.
The FBI searched Berger's home and office with warrants earlier this year after employees of the National Archives told agents they believed they witnessed Berger put documents into his clothing while reviewing sensitive Clinton administration papers, officials said.
When asked, Berger said he returned some of the classified documents, which he found in his office, and all of the handwritten notes he had taken from the secure room, but said he could not locate two or three copies of the highly classified millennium terror report.
"In the course of reviewing over several days thousands of pages of documents on behalf of the Clinton administration in connection with requests by the Sept. 11 commission, I inadvertently took a few documents from the Archives," Berger said.
"When I was informed by the Archives that there were documents missing, I immediately returned everything I had except for a few document that I apparently had accidentally discarded," he said.
Lanny Breuer, one of Berger's attorneys, said his client has offered to cooperate fully with the investigation but has not been interviewed by the FBI or prosecutors. Berger has been told he is the subject of the investigation, Breuer said.
Government and congressional officials familiar with the investigation, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because the probe involves classified materials, said the investigation remains active and that no decision has been made on whether Berger should face criminal charges.
The officials said the missing documents were highly classified, and included critical assessments about the Clinton administration's handling of the millennium terror threats as well as identification of America's terror vulnerabilities at airports to sea ports.
Clinton Adviser Probed in Terror Memos
By JOHN SOLOMON
WASHINGTON - President Clinton (news - web sites)'s national security adviser, Sandy Berger, is the focus of a criminal investigation after admitting he removed highly classified terrorism documents from a secure reading room during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings, The Associated Press has learned.
Berger's home and office were searched earlier this year by FBI (news - web sites) agents armed with warrants. Some drafts of a sensitive after-action report on the Clinton administration's handling of al-Qaida terror threats during the December 1999 millennium celebration are still missing.
Berger and his lawyer said Monday night he knowingly removed handwritten notes he had taken from classified anti-terror documents he reviewed at the National Archives by sticking them in his jacket and pants. He also inadvertently took copies of actual classified documents in a leather portfolio, they said.
"I deeply regret the sloppiness involved, but I had no intention of withholding documents from the commission, and to the contrary, to my knowledge, every document requested by the commission from the Clinton administration was produced," Berger said in a statement to the AP.
Berger served as Clinton's national security adviser for all of the president's second term and most recently has been informally advising Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites). Clinton asked Berger last year to review and select the administration documents that would be turned over to the commission.
The FBI searched Berger's home and office with warrants earlier this year after employees of the National Archives told agents they believed they witnessed Berger put documents into his clothing while reviewing sensitive Clinton administration papers, officials said.
When asked, Berger said he returned some of the classified documents, which he found in his office, and all of the handwritten notes he had taken from the secure room, but said he could not locate two or three copies of the highly classified millennium terror report.
"In the course of reviewing over several days thousands of pages of documents on behalf of the Clinton administration in connection with requests by the Sept. 11 commission, I inadvertently took a few documents from the Archives," Berger said.
"When I was informed by the Archives that there were documents missing, I immediately returned everything I had except for a few document that I apparently had accidentally discarded," he said.
Lanny Breuer, one of Berger's attorneys, said his client has offered to cooperate fully with the investigation but has not been interviewed by the FBI or prosecutors. Berger has been told he is the subject of the investigation, Breuer said.
Government and congressional officials familiar with the investigation, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because the probe involves classified materials, said the investigation remains active and that no decision has been made on whether Berger should face criminal charges.
The officials said the missing documents were highly classified, and included critical assessments about the Clinton administration's handling of the millennium terror threats as well as identification of America's terror vulnerabilities at airports to sea ports.
DOGS THAT BARK said:"No doubt. I'll just have to vote for the one who hasn't proven (yet) to be totally corrupt and incompetent as a President"
I have to assume you did not vote for Slick for 2nd term then.
While they have yet to prove Bush corrupt (unless you have some proof) last adminstration is clear cut.
---and on competence---I think you forgot it took this admin less time to occupy 2 countries than last adminstration to conquer rag tag outfit in Wacko--and then had to tourch women and children to get job done---- and Somollia --they drag our soilders thru sreet and burn them and our fearless leader cuts and runs----Hmm He'd be shoe in if he decided to run again in Spain or Phillipines.
While it's great that we were able to occupy 2 countries in record time, I really have to question whether that shows competence or utter stupidity.
It was stupid to go to Somalia in the first place. The difference is that one guy saw that it was a mistake and did the right thing and the other guy continues to stubbornly 'stay the course' in Iraq in the face of all common sense. You call it being a coward and I call it doing what's best for the country. Some admire machismo at any cost.
You mention that corruption in the Clinton admin is 'clear cut'. If you're (still) talking about lying about a blow job, then I guess we have different definitions of 'corrupt'.
Kosar I believe Clinton had the cuts to call somollia a mistake on his part. Of course he counted on our military to know what the hell they were doing. Never the less he said it stopped at his desk and was a screw up. Now we have someone that cant say he's made any mistakes in his life. And he does not let that buck get close to stopping at his desk. He's a ducker.
"Kerry is well on his way to reaching his magic number of 2,162. That's
the total number of delegates he needs to win the Democratic nomination.
See, for President Bush it's different. His magic number is only 5. That's
the number of Supreme Court judges needed to win." -- Jay Leno
the total number of delegates he needs to win the Democratic nomination.
See, for President Bush it's different. His magic number is only 5. That's
the number of Supreme Court judges needed to win." -- Jay Leno
KOSAR :scared (enough said!!!!!!)
GOD I AM GLAD THAT POLITICS DOESN'T DO TO ME WHAT IT DOES TO SOME OF YOU....................(KOSAR,RAYMOND,DTB,DJV,EDDIE THE GREAT,WILSON,AND SO ON)
NOW RUN ALONG AND CHANGE THE WORLD BOYS, BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT ALL OF THE HEATED DEBATES THAT YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS AROUND WILL CERTAINLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE lmao
sorry fellas I am just amongst the small majority around here that is sick of these stupid political threads, WE ALL "VERY WELL" KNOW WHO IS A RIGHT WINGER AND WHO IS A LEFT...........I would much prefer a re-appearance of private petey TO BE QUITE HONEST!!!! :brows: :lol: :fingerc:
This place could certainly use some mindless chats and some good humor IMO
GOD I AM GLAD THAT POLITICS DOESN'T DO TO ME WHAT IT DOES TO SOME OF YOU....................(KOSAR,RAYMOND,DTB,DJV,EDDIE THE GREAT,WILSON,AND SO ON)
NOW RUN ALONG AND CHANGE THE WORLD BOYS, BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT ALL OF THE HEATED DEBATES THAT YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS AROUND WILL CERTAINLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE lmao
sorry fellas I am just amongst the small majority around here that is sick of these stupid political threads, WE ALL "VERY WELL" KNOW WHO IS A RIGHT WINGER AND WHO IS A LEFT...........I would much prefer a re-appearance of private petey TO BE QUITE HONEST!!!! :brows: :lol:
:fingerc: This place could certainly use some mindless chats and some good humor IMO
Tara, it's not so much left wing and right wing. More like centrists and then the nutty, emotionally driven far right wingers(no offense Wilson). The centrists, like myself, find the going tough in this environment, but we try our best to hang in there. We've had one casualty lately though.
In the future I suggest that you don't open political threads because the seem to be causing you distress. Thanks for sharing, good luck and God bless.
In the future I suggest that you don't open political threads because the seem to be causing you distress. Thanks for sharing, good luck and God bless.
I know I sure miss the mindless posts as well. By the way, whatever happened to the softball team?
Now you listen here KOSAR, don't you tell "me" what thread to open or not open. Every other thread is political garbage :cursin: IMO and jezzzusss, have some sympathy for me I thought you were my friend, it would take me forever to correct some of the spelling errors made by RAYMOND if he really started to type what he felt politically. (not that I am a spelling genius myself LOL
Chainsaw - thats what I'm talkin bout YO!!!!!
Madjacks was hoppin then!!!!!!!!
I do believe the girls got to a few men around here though , they just couldn't take us :142lmao:
Chainsaw - thats what I'm talkin bout YO!!!!!
Madjacks was hoppin then!!!!!!!!
I do believe the girls got to a few men around here though , they just couldn't take us :142lmao:
I don't have time for your silly games right now.
I've heard of people getting whacked out when they turn 45, but Christ Tara! Keep it together!
I've heard of people getting whacked out when they turn 45, but Christ Tara! Keep it together!
I have all day for games and rest assured I could take you "and" RAYMOND single handed...........
