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I dont know lines yet so I will predict them

usa - 3 vs Spain

Greece even vs Argentina

Lithuania -14 vs China

Italy - 3 over PR


[THOSE BRACKETS HOLD CORRECT FOR SEMIS]


some great battles here, I know, how can i make USA fave over unbeaten spain with great backcourt, well I think USA finds a way to win and betting public will force them to be faves ...

Greeks really showed mettle in finale winning easily; Ginobli will have his club ready--should be fun one to watch, homeboys might have enuff to prevail

Lithuania has proven class of OLY yet USA had game in hand until they couldnt solve pick and roll in closing minutes (plus Ivy and Marbury's 6/26 fgs :142lmao: ) --China had their hurrah "W" today and I could see rout here ... Lith has package to win it all and should be faves IMO

Ive won money on Italy and like their spunk, PR is yo-yo, tuff game to cap but Arroyo could lead them to slight upset but gimme the Pastas

anyhow, my 2 cents on the games :)

gl gregg
 
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5dimes Gold odds

usa +145 (BOUT WHAT I EXPECTED)

Lith +195 (lotsa value there IMHO, but the caveat is that USA really licking chops to get another shot at them IF THEY CAN GET THERE IS THE QUESTION)

Spain +625 (GASOL and speedy backcourt, beat USA they are still facing 2 tuff games)

Argentina +1300 (Gino getting huge odds)
 

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well here are the real lines

usa -4.5
arg -3.5
italy -7
lith -16.5


comments: heard PR might have tanked game to improve seeding etc; think that line is a tad high, like Italy a lot but they win squeakers too ... arg with have hands full with that crowd; other two games are what i expected ...

Best Value IMHO is PR

gl, gregg :clap:
 
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ATHENS, Greece (AP) -- Larry Brown let his team rest Tuesday as it prepared for the quarterfinals. With undefeated Spain up next, the Americans might need the time off.


They became the first U.S. men's basketball team to finish anywhere other than first place in the opening round of an Olympics. It won't get any easier against the Spaniards on Thursday.


``They're the best team I've seen thus far,'' Brown said. ``(Pau) Gasol is as good of a player as there is in the tournament, but they're a veteran team, they're a team that beat the United States at home in Indianapolis at the 2002 World Championships.



``The fact they have gone through their pool undefeated tells you how good they are,'' the coach said.


The difference between winning and losing will be huge.


A victory would put the United States in the semifinals against Greece or Argentina; a loss would drop it into a game for seventh place against the loser of the Lithuania-China.


And no, they don't give medals for seventh place.


Spain has played its best in the fourth quarters of each game in Athens.


After routing China by 25 points in their opener, Spain outscored Argentina 29-16 in the fourth quarter to win by 11, closed with an 18-8 run to defeat Italy by eight, then outscored Serbia-Montenegro 25-16 in the fourth quarter to win 76-68.


The key factor each time was defense, and when Spain plays defense things can get a little rough. Perhaps that message will be delivered with a shot across Tim Duncan's nose or an elbow to Carlos Boozer's gut.


``Spain is a real rugged, tough team with great size, great experience at the guard positions, and they're a real rough and tumble group,'' U.S. assistant coach Gregg Popovich said. ``They play very physical.''


And they get away with it, too. Spain finished the preliminary round with fewer fouls, 84, than any other team.


Spain also had the best free-throw percentage, 71.9, while the U.S. team was next-to-last at 64.4 percent. The Americans' biggest advantage could be offensive rebounding. They lead the tournament with 80, almost twice as many as Spain's 41.


New Zealand's strategy against Spain on Monday was to dare them to fire away from beyond the 3-point line. Coming into that game, Spain was ranked ahead of only one team, the United States, in 3-point accuracy. But New Zealand's strategy backfired when Spain shot 14-for-26 on 3s in an 88-84 victory.


``I think any team going against Spain has probably got to be considered an underdog,'' New Zealand coach Tab Baldwin said.


Two of the key matchups will be Duncan vs. Gasol and Stephon Marbury vs. Juan Carlos Navarro.


Duncan is shooting 63 percent and averaging team-highs of 15.6 points and 11.0 rebounds, while Gasol is shooting 56 percent and averaging 18.2 points and 7.6 rebounds.


The point guard matchup could be a mismatch despite Marbury's advantages in salary, hype and tattoos. He has struggled in each of the Americans' games, getting badly outplayed by Puerto Rico's Carlos Arroyo and Lithuania's Sarunas Jasikevicius in the U.S. team's two losses.


Marbury is shooting only 6-for-30 from the field and 2-for-16 from 3-point range, struggling to buy into Brown's preference for a point guard to be the initiator of the offense rather than a scorer. It took Chauncey Billups of the Detroit Pistons an entire NBA season to adapt to Brown's way, but he had 82 games to adjust while Marbury has had only 11.


Navarro is not a traditional point guard, either, but more of a combo guard -- as is his backcourt mate, Jose Manuel Calderon. Navarro has been struggling, too, shooting 33 percent overall and 20 percent on 3-pointers.


The other quarterfinal pits Italy against Puerto Rico. The semifinals are Friday and the gold-medal game is Saturday, meaning the team that stands atop the medal podium in the wee hours Sunday morning will have defeated three tough teams in three days.


It'll be a tricky task for anyone, especially for an American team lacking in cohesion, international experience, outside shooting and free-throw accuracy.


The U.S. players may have pondered those problems Tuesday as they enjoyed their day off, perhaps visiting the Acropolis, walking through the ancient Athenian marketplace or lounging aboard the luxury liner serving as their temporary home.


The time for wake-up calls has passed, and if they sleepwalk into Thursday's game they'll head home as the first U.S. men's basketball team ever to leave an Olympics without a medal dangling from their necks.
 

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good luck toyou

thanks for the write ups

i played china +17 yao ming should be enough to keep this close

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TV SCHEDULE FOR GAMES


7-9:30 am ET Men's quarterfinals (live) USA
9 am-noon, ET Men's quarterfinals (live, ET) Bravo
11 am-8 pm ET Men's quarterfinals Telemundo
1-3 pm ET Men's quarterfinals (live) MSNBC
6-8 pm ET Mens' quarterfinals CNBC


Time Event Calendar
7:30 am United States vs. Spain (Men)
9:45 am China vs. Lithuania (Men)
1:00 pm Puerto Rico vs. Italy (Men)
3:15 pm Argentina vs. Greece (Men)
 

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I agree PR has a pretty good shot. The Italians always seem to get tangled up in close ones. Didnt play that one, however.

Instead, went with Greece 3.5 and ml at 149. They will be ultra scrappy and I really havent been that impressed with Argentina in this tourney. Home crowd will be in an absolute frenzy, and I think they will get the Greeks over the hump in this one.
 
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