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and maybe a little on the moneyline....

an improving ballclub.....a young qb with a years experience under his belt....

rutgers lost only 13 lettermen from last year ... have experience and depth at most positions....and are supposedly a fairly quick ballclub..

mich st has had some turnover at the key skill positions...may take a little while for those high octane offensive schemes of smith`s to gel....stanton played some last year....

rutgers takes a step up the ladder this year....or,if not this year, maybe it doesn`t happen under schiavone....in a fairly wide open big east,they can possibly make a little noise....at least be very competitive......

always willing to take a whack at an underrated,experienced home dog on opening night...with revenge...vs the big boys from the big ten....

are mich st`s big ten athletes far superior to the scarlety knights`?.....maybe.. ..that`s the question...

although,i didn`t get the feeling watching mich st last year that they were your typical physical big ten club....more of a finesse team...and with new offensive personnel at some skill positions,it may not be a smooth transition early....

at least that`s what i`m hoping...(lol)

motivation shouldn`t be an issue...
 
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Garden and Reb..be careful.Rutgers has improved but they are having big time problems with their cornerbacks.I'll explain later in the week.I have been following them like a hawk the past 2 weeks.
 

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Rutgers day in camp
Saturday, August 28, 2004


THE BUZZ Rutgers emerged from preseason camp with fewer major injuries to key people than in any of coach Greg Schiano's three previous camps -- and maybe in recent memory.

With preseason practice ending yesterday, Schiano said only two players -- reserve cornerback Manny Collins and backup offensive guard Mike Fladell -- were definitely out for next Saturday's opener against Michigan State.
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Collins has a dislocated elbow and is still in a sling. Fladell, a redshirt freshman, is recovering from arthroscopic knee surgery and could return to practice in two weeks.

Beyond that, Schiano said there was a chance everyone else could be available next weekend -- including true freshman QB Mike Teel, who has yet to practice because of a high ankle sprain. DB Chazz Lynn (shoulder) could be back then as well.

"It doesn't really matter coming out of camp. It matters going into the game on Saturday," Schiano said of the short injury list. "Certainly it helps to be where we are now, in that position and, hopefully, we can maintain that during game week (starting Monday)."

Schiano said his previous camps featured far more injuries.

"No question," he said. "More of them -- severe and in quantity as well."

He credited the team's conditioning and maturity for its fairly robust status this August.

"I think it's, first of all, stronger, faster athletes. Second of all, it's guys who have learned to practice more efficiently," he said. "And then most important, the Lord's blessing on us that we stay healthy."

STOCK RISING True freshman Jeremy Zuttah -- who else? With Brian Duffy's knee "sore" yesterday, according to Schiano, Zuttah filled in at left guard with the first-team offensive line. Asked if he would be concerned about starting a freshman in the offensive line in the opener, Schiano smiled. "A freshman, yeah. That freshman, no," he said. ... When Schiano yelled for the second team offense to take the field for a drill yesterday, it was redshirt freshman Terrence Shawell, not Anthony Cali, who led the unit out.

STOCK FALLING Senior OL Clint Dato looks to be in danger of losing his place on the second team -- a tribute, in part, to the young offensive line talent Rutgers now has. ... Freshman PK Jeremy Ito missed an extra point earlier this week and failed on a 32-yard field goal try yesterday -- but it won't cost him the starting position he wrested away from senior Ryan Sands. ... LB Brad Cunningham slipped a little deeper on the depth chart with Will Gilkison back practicing yesterday. Gilkison's return has bumped Cunningham off the two deep.

DEPTH CHART Who's No. 2 at QB behind Ryan Hart? Still no answer -- and there may not be for a while. Though Schiano has never come out and said as much, it appears as if he is waiting for Teel to get healthy enough to join the competition before making a decision. "I think our backup quarterback will be an ongoing thing," Schiano said. "I don't think it's going to be 'this is our backup quarterback for the year. That's it, we're done.' I'm not comfortable with that yet and I'm not going to settle."

WELCOME ABOARD Sophomore LB Rashawn "Rocky" Ricks and true freshman offensive lineman Jon Fields will enroll in school and will be part of the football program -- although it's unlikely either will play this year. Schiano doesn't know when either will even practice. Ricks is recovering from injuries suffered in a car accident. Fields skipped preseason camp for undisclosed medical reasons.

QUOTE OF THE DAY "We've got to move him to cornerback, right?" -- Rutgers coach GREG SCHIANO, after 265-pound DT Ramel Meekins came up with his second interception of the week off a deflection.

INJURY REPORT Beyond Fladell and Collins, nothing serious. SS Jarvis Johnson (back) returned to practice yesterday, as did DT J'vonne Parker (shoulder) and LB Will Gilkison (knee). WR Shawn Tucker (groin) said he will be ready to go Monday.
 

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Rutgers: Inexperienced CBs still a concern
Friday, August 27, 2004


Eddie Grimes knows it doesn't matter at this point what he says about his ability to fill one of Rutgers' two open cornerback positions -- the only spots on the Knights' defense that doesn't feature a returning starter.

Four years of being in the program, three career starts (even if two of them were as a nickel back) and one game-changing interception return for a touchdown against Syracuse last year have Grimes feeling confident he can do the job.





But until he and either Joe Porter or Derrek Roberson prove themselves to be adequate replacements for Nate Jones and Brandon Haw, the underlying apprehension will still be there.

"I understand why people would be worried with our lack of experience. But that's the only reason people look at it as a concern right now -- because of the inexperience," Grimes said. "The question will be answered Sept. 4 when we step on the field against Michigan State (in the season opener). We'll let our play do the talking for us.

"Otherwise, it's just that now -- talk."

On a defense entrenched with starters everywhere, the up-for-grabs cornerback spots have been more than a secondary issue.

"It's a concern," Rutgers coach Greg Schiano said. "It was coming into camp and it still is."

Grimes, a career reserve, has claimed one of the starting corner spots, despite being slowed all summer by a groin injury. Porter and Roberson, both sophomores, are waging a spirited competition for the other job. Both will play, but neither has started before -- and neither has had to be out there on an island alone for an entire game.

With Jones and Haw in NFL camps, one or both will have to be now.

"Two of our corners went to the NFL. Personally, I'd be a little skeptical about what's going to happen there too," said Porter, a 5-9, 190-pounder from nearby Franklin Township. "But all of those questions will be answered the first game."

For better or worse.

With two proven corners, Rutgers was still roughed up for 351 passing yards by Michigan State -- with only Pittsburgh getting more through the air against the Knights last season. Spartans quarterback Jeff Smoker is gone, but Michigan State's three starting wide receivers return.

"I feel I'm ready. All of us feel that way," Porter said. "Football is football. Cover two is cover two wherever you go. Receivers are the same everywhere. Experience is just something people talk about."

Roberson, a 5-10, 170-pounder from Oakland Park, Fla., did see time in 10 games last year, mostly as a backup corner. Porter played in nine games last fall, almost exclusively on special teams.

The 6-1, 190-pound Grimes has shown flashes of ability, but has never been asked to handle the position on an every-down basis. He played with a broken bone in his thumb last year.

"They are making a ton of progress," Schiano said of the three, "but they still have a ton to make."

Compounding the concern is that all three have to be the solution, since Schiano has almost nothing in reserve behind them.

With Manny Collins sidelined for several more weeks with an elbow injury, the fourth cornerback will either be senior walk-on Matt Mitchell or junior Akil Boucaud, a transfer from the University of New Haven. Mitchell's playing time has primarily been limited to special teams. Boucaud, from Orange, isn't even listed in the team's media guide.

"I'm very confident we'll get the job done," Grimes said. "But there's no point in talking about it. We have to go out and do it."
 

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gw,

i'm with you on rutgers.

here is an interesting article on how rutgers is recruiting in fla.


Knights take Florida talent


BY DICK WEISS
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER


Rutgers football sent a huge Christmas card to South Florida last year.
Coach Greg Schiano and marketing director Kevin McConnell designed billboards that said, "Season's Greetings from Rutgers football" with a picture of the Scarlet Knights' Florida-recruited players and placed them across the street from specifically targeted high school in Palm Beach, Broward and Dade counties during December and January, the two months before the signing date.

Schiano also had his TV show pumped into the state on the Sunshine Network and his coaching staff has held clinics there.

It may look like sensory overload but it actually has been a creative plan to establish Rutgers as a viable alternative to high school prospects in a fertile recruiting ground.

Rutgers finally looks like it is on the verge of making a breakthrough in the revised Big East this season. And when the history of the Schiano era is written, his Florida connections will play an important part. Schiano, who had been the defensive coordinator at Miami before taking over this once-stagnant program four years ago, has used his contacts to lure 29 players from Florida to New Jersey.

At least 14 of them could be starters on a team that is actually talking about the postseason. Rutgers has not had a winning season since 1992, but a seven-win season seems possible now.

"When I got here I made it clear we needed to recruit our state for the best players," Schiano said. "But I felt we also needed to recruit Florida. That was definitely our strategy. And we wanted to limit the areas where we recruit - not go national. People say, 'Why don't you go to Maryland?' When you look at the number of Division I signees out of Maryland, then you look at the state of Florida, what was it? There were 361 Division I signees out of Florida.

"People say, 'Well, you're taking seconds out of that state?' Well, what is a second? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

Consider most of the star players on this year's Scarlet Knights. Senior free safety Jarvis Johnson is from Miami South Dade HS. Junior Quarterback Ryan Hart is from Cardinal Gibbons in Coral Springs, junior wide receiver Shawn Tucker is from Parkland Douglas and senior wideout Tres Moses is from Delray Beach Atlantic. Hart, who completed 59% of his 398 passes for 2,714 yards and 15 touchdowns last season, could be the best quarterback in the Big East if he can cut down his 19 interceptions. Tucker and Moses both caught over 50 passes a year ago, while Johnson led the team in tackles with 97.

"When I first heard about Rutgers, I honestly can say I didn't even know where the school was located," Moses said. "I had no idea. I didn't know anything about Rutgers. When I signed, a lot of players from my class just came on blind faith. We just went from word of mouth from coach Schiano. But now, more and more people are starting to see what's happening around here. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot more people from Florida want to be a part of that."

Hart, who has been a starter since midway through his freshman year, was an all-state quarterback at Gibbons. "When Rutgers recruited me, I was a junior in high school," he said. "I didn't know much about the program. In fact, I didn't know what state it was in. Then, I talked to the coaches and got more informed about it. I was really excited when I came up here for a visit. I went to their summer camp and was really shocked by their facilities."

Everybody who actually ventures onto campus to see this well-kept secret says that. AD Bob Mulcahy has gotten the university to put its money where its mouth is. The facilities on the Piscataway side of the river match up well with every school in the Big East. Mulcahy has upgraded 41,500-seat Rutgers Stadium with FieldTurf, a video scoreboard and luxury boxes. He oversaw the $13 million expansion of Hale Center, the school's football operations building that now houses digital classrooms and meeting rooms, a 150-seat amphitheater, an expanded weight room and cutting-edge training center. Mulcahy also turned the former baseball field into an enclosed practice area with three full-length fields.

He also has been patient with Schiano, who suffered through 2-9 and 1-10 seasons his first two years, but has recruited an infusion of talent and a creative offensive coordinator in Craig Ver Steeg from Utah, which has made Rutgers fun to watch on offense and should make the Knights competitive in every game they play.

"I think the Big East is pretty even," Hart said. "It's going to be like the SEC or the Big Ten, where any team can upset any team on a given Saturday."

The first given Saturday might be in just five days, when Michigan State comes to Piscataway and gives Schiano's Scarlet Knights their first chance to make some noise on the national scene in a long time.


good luck.
 

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and one more...a game of little interest....

stanford-17....why this garbage game?....because san jose lost some very important players off last year`s club and they are shuffling guys all over the place.......

stanford brings back highly rated trent edwards who threw for 278 yds ly in a relief role vs the spartans....their top 2 backs lemon and tolon are back...as is top receiver bradford....9 defensive starters return...

sjs loses star qb scott rislov....their top "6" receivers and return only one offensive lineman....their defense is always shaky...

sj st has lost their last 7 in a row ats vs the pac-10....by an average of 26 ppg....

after losing seven straight openers,stanford has covered 4 straight....and under teevens stanford has handled the spartans easily the last 2 years....this is teevens best, most experienced squad...

i know motivation will be with sj st,but trent edwards was a very highly regarded recruit and may just break out as he is surrounded with young,but experienced guys... while sj st returns 9 starters total....

i could be very wrong laying points with potential rather than a proven quantity....

just a hunch...nobody seems to be paying any attention to this ballgame....

maybe,with good reason....lol

small...
 
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adding navy -7(a play on coach johnson,who is one of the truly underrated college coaches).......not to mention having many key personnel back,replacement qb polanco is a more naturally talented qb than departing candetto...and he`s played a good deal leading up to this year...with success...although candetto was a leader..


and fresno st+4......just believe we have the better,more experienced team....getting points,imo,is a bonus....

g.l.
 

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4-0 on posted plays(rutgers m.l....rutgers+7...navy-7....stanford -17)....

god protects fools and children...and i`m no child...lol

split on non-posted(ucla L....under okie st/ucla L......hit with under lsu and minny/toledo over...got 57 when it first hit the book...an amazingly low line in retrospect...i should have hit it much harder).....

fresno+4 and louisville -7(bought down) pending......might see somrthing else between now and tomorrow....

hope everyone got off on the good foot....

on to tomorrow....

g.l. my bruvva`s.....
 

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real nice job weasel. not only were those winners, but they were comfortable winners. damn good capping.

looking forward to browns/ravens next sunday. will be in attendance, hoping to see clowns open the season with a win for the first time since coming back. assuming youre hoping their 0-fer streak continues in openers, lol. total seems kinda high at 37 considering browns strength is running the ball, and on D, they are going to do everything in their power to atone for the embarrassment of letting lewis destroy them last season, even if that means loading the box and letting boller have time to throw. i dont see how that game is more than 17-14 one way or the other, but who knows.

again, congrats on a great saturday
 

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thanks,guys.....considering the number of times i`ve filched plays from you both(actually i stole penn st from ar1 today...lol),i`m very flattered....

i`ll look back with fondness on this thread when i inevitably hit that "cold streak"...probably next week....

g.l. tomorrow...
 

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gw quote:"i`ll look back with fondness on this thread when i inevitably hit that "cold streak"...probably next week.... "


lol......your underestimiating yourself.....


keep up the good work.
 
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