The Kerry Line: John Kerry's Pre-9/11 Worldview

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The Kerry Line: John Kerry's Pre-9/11 Worldview

"John Kerry's characterization of terrorism as a 'nuisance' shows that he doesn't recognize the threats facing this country and does not have the vision and determination needed to defeat terrorism. The fact that his top foreign policy adviser sees the War on Terror as a 'metaphor' adds to Kerry's credibility problem on the most important issue facing our nation."

- Steve Schmidt, Bush-Cheney '04 Spokesman

Kerry's Pre-9/11 Worldview

Kerry Said Terrorism Is A Law Enforcement Issue Like Prostitution And Gambling That Can Be "Reduced" But Not Ended. "When I asked Kerry what it would take for Americans to feel safe again, he displayed a much less apocalyptic worldview. 'We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance,' Kerry said. 'As a former law-enforcement person, I know we're never going to end prostitution. We're never going to end illegal gambling. But we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise. It isn't threatening people's lives every day, and fundamentally, it's something that you continue to fight, but it's not threatening the fabric of your life.'" (Matt Bai, "Kerry's Undeclared War," The New York Times Magazine, 10/10/04)

Kerry Advisor Richard Holbrooke Doesn't Think We're At War. HOLBROOKE: "'We're not in a war on terror, in the literal sense,' says Richard Holbrooke, the Clinton-era diplomat who could well become Kerry's secretary of state. 'The war on terror is like saying 'the war on poverty.' It's just a metaphor.'" (Matt Bai, "Kerry's Undeclared War," The New York Times Magazine, 10/10/04)

Kerry Views The War On Terror As A Law Enforcement Matter

In March 2004, Kerry Balked At Calling War On Terror An Actual War. "The final victory in the war on terror depends on a victory in the war of ideas, much more than the war on the battlefield. And the war - not the war, I don't want to use that terminology. The engagement of economies, the economic transformation, the transformation to modernity of a whole bunch of countries that have been avoiding the future. And that future's coming at us like it or not, in the context of terror, and in the context of failed states, and dysfunctional economies, and all that goes with that." (The New York Times Website, "In His Words: John Kerry," www.nytimes.com, 3/6/04)

In January 2004, Kerry Said The War On Terror May Be "Occasionally Military," But It Is "Primarily An Intelligence And Law Enforcement Operation." NBC'S TOM BROKAW: "Senator Kerry, let me ask you a question. Robert Kagan ? has written recently that Europeans believe that the Bush administration has exaggerated the threat of terrorism, and the Bush administration believes that the Europeans simply don't get it. Who is right?" KERRY: "I think it's somewhere in between. I think that there has been an exaggeration and there has been a refocusing ? The war on terror is less ? it is occasionally military, and it will be, and it will continue to be for a long time. And we will need the best-trained and the most well-equipped and the most capable military, such as we have today. But it's primarily an intelligence and law enforcement operation that requires cooperation around the world ? the very thing this administration is worst at. I will renew our alliances. I will rejoin the community of nations. I will build the kind of cooperative effort that we need in order to be able to win. And most importantly, the war on terror is also an engagement in the Middle East economically, socially, culturally, in a way that we haven't embraced, because otherwise we're inviting a clash of civilizations. And I think this administration's arrogant and ideological policy is taking America down a more dangerous path. I will make America safer than they are." (Sen. John Kerry, Democrat Presidential Candidates Debate, Greenville, SC, 1/29/04)

In January 2004, Kerry Said: "[W]ar On Terror Is Far Less Of A Military Operation And Far More Of An Intelligence-Gathering, Law-Enforcement Operation." (The Iowa Brown & Black Coalition Presidential Forum, Des Moines, IA, 1/11/04)

In September 2003, Kerry Said The War On Terror Was "Far More Of A Law Enforcement" Than "Military" Operation. "t is important to fight terror abroad. And would I rather fight terror abroad than here in this country. But the fight against terror is far more of a law enforcement and intelligence operation than it is a day-to-day huge military operation." (MSNBC's "Hardball," 9/8/03)

In March 2003, Kerry Said: "[W]hat We've Learned Is That The War On Terror Is Much More Of An Intelligence Operation And A Law Enforcement Operation." (NPR's "All Things Considered," 3/19/03)

In June 2002, Kerry Said War On Terror Rhetoric "Is Overblown," And Should "Fundamentally" Focus On Law Enforcement. "[W]hat I think all of us need to focus on is the fact that the rhetoric of this war is overblown in some ways and not focused properly in others. This is not a war as we have known it. This is not a war in which there's a front-line or the troops are going out every day on control. This is fundamentally an intelligence operation and the law enforcement operation and a diplomatic operation." (NBC's "Meet The Press," 6/23/02)
 

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Most seems right on as we see how things have revolved.
We need to treat a lot of it as law inforcement. Military alone will never defeat all terror in the world. You can't fight little groups of folks with tanks all the time. If so Terror in the world would not have lasted 2000 years. Anyone who thinks it's going away. Well better look at the part of the glass that's half emty. But you can try to educate and control as mush as possibale to keep it out of the U S. And we need to do a lot here at home. Just makeing air travel safer wont cut it. Were along way from safer. And invading Iraq did not make us any safer. It did piss off about another 10000 recruits for terror. And as long as were seen as a tie in with Israel. Good Luck.
 
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"We're never going to end illegal gambling. But we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise"

Can you just imagine what the retorts here would be had Bush said this???????

Saw endless posts on Kyle from the left but not a whimper if he's one of their boys. ---quite transparent
 

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You just made a correct statement. Gambling and crime neither are ever going away. Can you try to controll them. Of course.
 

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Like DJV said, terrorism *is*, for the most part, a law enforcement issue. Not only is it common sense, it was proven as all the breakdowns and non-communication among our agencies greased the skids for 9/11. It wasn't a military breakdown, it was a law enforcement breakdown.

Any future terror attacks in this country will have nothing to do with how many, or how few Iraqi insurgents were rounded up in Iraq. It will, once again, come down to intelligence failures and law enforcement failures.

And isn't it obvious that we would all like to 'downgrade' terrorism to nuisance status? That *should* be our goal. He didn't say that he currently considers it just a nuisance, he said that hopefully down the rorad that's what it will be considered.

Now compare that to Dubya saying that there is no way to win this 'war' against terrorism. One view is defeatist and keeps us scared and the other is shrouded in optmism. Please.
 

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alot of poor voter will voting for kerry and they don't have a clue , mr kerry will rise taxes, alot of people don't have a clue


clueless lol but would be the first people to hide under there beds under a attack! lol
 

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Ray your one of the few here that will get taxes raised because you make big bucks. Consider your self so lucky. In Fact if they want another couple 100 from this old guy they can have it. As long as the country is doing well. It's the only place on earth to live and I will pay to do it. I just dont want it pissed away on places we need not be. If were throwing money around. Throw it in the good Old U S A.
 

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i work hard and that my reward , noone is giving it away , you must earn it! hard word paid off

god bless american and our troops and god bless you djv
 

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and god bless

Blitz, Chain Saw, Chanman, djv, DOGS THAT BARK, Eddie Haskell, kosar, SixFive, Turfgrass
 

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Thanks Ray, God bless you too!



djv said:
Ray your one of the few here that will get taxes raised because you make big bucks. Consider your self so lucky. In Fact if they want another couple 100 from this old guy they can have it. As long as the country is doing well. It's the only place on earth to live and I will pay to do it. I just dont want it pissed away on places we need not be. If were throwing money around. Throw it in the good Old U S A.

DJV, the next time you fill out your taxes...could you please write out a check for $200 to the General Fund. Thanks!
 

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kosar said:
Like DJV said, terrorism *is*, for the most part, a law enforcement issue. Not only is it common sense, it was proven as all the breakdowns and non-communication among our agencies greased the skids for 9/11. It wasn't a military breakdown, it was a law enforcement breakdown.

Any future terror attacks in this country will have nothing to do with how many, or how few Iraqi insurgents were rounded up in Iraq. It will, once again, come down to intelligence failures and law enforcement failures.

And isn't it obvious that we would all like to 'downgrade' terrorism to nuisance status? That *should* be our goal. He didn't say that he currently considers it just a nuisance, he said that hopefully down the rorad that's what it will be considered.

Now compare that to Dubya saying that there is no way to win this 'war' against terrorism. One view is defeatist and keeps us scared and the other is shrouded in optmism. Please.

:clap: Kosar. 9/11 didn't have to go that far up the ladder. We should have re-evaluated our Immigration Policies or at least not issue Visas at will when we know a primary abuse is overstaying on student, tourist, etc w/no accountability. We won't learn as it is witnessed by deporting that vile radical Cat Stevens not long after 13 Lebanese Musicians w/expired passports had boarded a flight from Chicago to L.A. The latest update is feeling a woman's bra for explosives, ala Denver Int'l Airport, while both borders are practically wide open.
 

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RAYMOND said:
and god bless

Blitz, Chain Saw, Chanman, djv, DOGS THAT BARK, Eddie Haskell, kosar, SixFive, Turfgrass

OOOPS- almost forgot*bows humbly, from the waist* God Bless U 2...

All beings tremble before violence. All fear death. All love life.
See yourself in others. Then whom can you hurt? What harm can you do?
He who seeks happiness by hurting those who seek happiness will never find happiness.
For your brother is like you. He wants to be happy.
Never harm him and when you leave this life you too will find happiness.
The Buddha

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Remember your first time trying to roll a 'joint?'
 

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Chan thats a great Pic. I can remember. LOL.
Ray, god bless you to. Your a good man.
 
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Chanman

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Looks familiar especially if those 'high water' pants and those sox. That should be a Pizza on the couch for later, when the munchies strike.

Of course my first score turned out to be oregano from some Senior entrepreneur classmen :rant2:
 
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