Lowe vs. Wakefield for Game 7

JCoverS

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First of all, allow me to prefice this post. I am only offering this opinion as a sports fan and not as a baseball bettor. Ever since the fav and over trend tore me a new a-hole in the early part of the playoffs, I placed a moratorium on my future baseball wagering. Glad to see the unders rolling in for other MJ'ers now :rolleyes: . You all can thank me for that. But anyway, I digress...

Maybe it's just me, but I couldn't believe it when I heard Francona waivering in the post-game interview on whether to start Wakefield or not. IMHO, starting Lowe in Yankee Stadium would be a very bad move. And he even had the audacity to say that the reason they might go with Lowe is that he is more fresh? Are you kidding? Knuckleballers don't tire easily!

Regardless, I don't care how fresh he thinks Lowe is....the fact is that he has a tendency to get pounded in road starts. Allowing Lowe's solid start in Game 4 to blind Francona, I predict will prove to be costly here. This guy is wildly inconsistent with virtually nothing to predict when he might come up with a good outing or a clunker. Add in the Game 7 pressure and the considerable gap in experience between he and Wakefield and I just don't get it.

Surely I am not the only one who thinks this guy is NOT a "big game pitcher?" For all Red Sox fans around the world, I certainly hope that Francona's words tonight were nothing more than a smokescreen to give the Yanks a false sense of security. I have a feeling they would much rather face Lowe than Wakefield. There is good reason that the line is a little shorter at Pinny for the Wakefield/Brown matchup.

Now I know there will be those that will try to shoot holes in my argument here, but please allow me to expand on my reasonings even more. While it would be difficult at best to argue that Wakefield is any picture (or pitcher) of consistency, but such is the nature of knuckleballers. They run hot and cold for extended periods because the knuckler is such a feel pitch, more than any other pitch in baseball. These type of pitchers have to find their groove with it. When they get that knuckler workin' it usually goes really good for multiple outings, dancing around like Michael Jackson in his better days, and able to throw it for strikes at will. However, the flip side is when they lose command of the pitch, they can have prolonged bad stretches where they just don't have it (ie. getting shelled in Detroit and setting record for most HR given up by a winning pitcher). Rarely do you see a good knuckleball pitcher flip-flop like this: good start, bad start, good start, bad start. It's just one of those things I can't explain, but have noticed over the years.

Recently, Wakefield had not shown command of his pitch of choice.....that was up until his fine relief effort the other night. To me that tells me he is on that mysterious "knuckleballer positive cycle." You may laugh that this is just a statistical anamoly, but I think there is logic behind this trend. One that if I was Francona I would take stock in. My point being that seeing Wakefield really pitch well in his relief effort the other night gives me alot of confidence that he can roll that type of pitching right into Game 7 as the starter. Derek Lowe rolling that same type of pitching performance from Game 4 into Game 7 is highly unlikely IMO. Yanks will get to him this time around.

Sure, Wakefield is the guy who gave up the game winning bomb to Boone in 2003 ALCS, who could forget that? But what most people too easily disregard is the fact that the guy beat these same Yankees in that series two different times in consecutive starts (see....that even lends credence to my theory). Bottomline: Wakefield should get the start here as the more experienced pitcher who has a recent history of shutting these Yankee bats down in "big games". After all, who better to help exorcise those demons for the Red Sox than the guy who ultimately allowed them to linger a little longer over the storied franchise just last year?

Anyone else feel the same, or am I just full of hot air :shrug: ?

-JC
 

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great post. i think lowe is the better pitcher, but wakefield is far more consistent. i think if boston went with wakefield, they would know what theyre gonna get. 6 or 7 innings and he'll probably allow 3 or 4 earned runs. that is more than good enough for boston to have a chance. with lowe, you could get a great outing where that sinker is working and he allows 1 or 2 runs..... but you also run the risk of lowe imploding and having the yankees put up a 4 spot in the 1st or 2nd inning. tough call. but youre right, wakefield gives them a better shot.
 

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Both pitchers should be effective in the cold damp air tomorrow nite, but I must agree, the way WAKE threw the other nite, I would probably go with him. The only positive with starting LOWE, is to see if he has his "A" game and can keep the YANKS off balance with his sinker, then counter with WAKEFIELD, but I don't know. My thinking is the cold damp air should have WAKEY at his best, and at his best, he's tough to hit.... period. :cool:
 

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I agree also, I remember Wake in Pittsburgh, when he was on it was great, when he was off, ouch! He has looked good this series and was good in the big games last year. I would go with the experience of Wakefield and hope he continues being on.
 

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At Pinnacle: They dropped the Wakefield line so it looks like Lowe may be starting. :shrug:

MLB Baseball Wed 10/20
Game Run Line Money Line Total Runs More
Wed 10/20 965 Houston Astros
P. Munro +1.5 +105 +225 OVER 10.5 +110
01:15 PM 966 St Louis Cardinals
M. Morris -1.5 -115 -243 UNDER 10.5 -120

Wed 10/20 967 Boston Red Sox
D. LOWE +1.5 -137 +153 OVER 10 -103
05:15 PM 968 New York Yankees
K. Brown -1.5 +127 -161 UNDER 10 -107
 

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other than boone's lucky homer, the yanks never hit wakefield. but we don't know anything about any of the pitcher's arms. some of these guys must have tird arms.
 

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The weather forecast for today there involves winds gusting. Tonight may not be a good night for a knuckle baller if this continues. Winds tonight 12-14 mph.
 

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Ok, boys. When I am wrong I have no problem admitting it. It is not only good karma, but also good therapy.

D. Lowe proved me wrong here. Much to my surprise, very solid effort from him. However, that early run support sure can make a guy feel like Cy Young in a hurry.

With the Boston bats tonight, it might not have mattered who started. But it looks for all the world that Francona pushed the right button here. I still say had I been in his shoes, I would have sent Wakefield to the hill for all the reasons I expounded on last night. Maybe that is why I don't get paid the big bucks to manage the likes of Big Papi and the Damon-Man.

Gonna get back and enjoy the rest of the game, now.

-JC
 
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