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8 Marines Dead in Iraq; Car Bomb Kills 7

12 minutes ago Middle East - AP


By RAWYA RAGEH, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - In a bloody day in Iraq (news - web sites), eight American Marines were killed in fighting west of Baghdad on Saturday, and a car bomb killed at least seven people in attack on an Arab television bureau in the capital. Iraqi troops fired wildly on civilian vehicles, killing at least 14 people, witnesses and hospital officials said.






The U.S. military said nine Marines were also wounded in the fighting in Anbar province west of the capital which includes the insurgent stronghold of Fallujah. The statement gave no further on how or where they were killed.


The deaths came as U.S. forces are gearing up for a major assault on Fallujah, seen as the toughest bastion of Sunni Muslim guerrillas, ahead of crucial elections due by Jan. 31.


Fierce clashes erupted Saturday in Fallujah as an American military convoy entered the southeastern industrial Shuhada neighborhood and nearby Nueimiya village ? an apparent probing foray on the city's edges. Explosions and gunfire rocked the area and smoke was seen billowing in the air, witnesses said.


Marines responded with heavy artillery fire after insurgents shot mortar shells from positions in the southeast of the city. About 4 p.m. a Marine Harrier jet bombed a mortar position inside Fallujah and strafed it with machine-gun fire, "neutralizing the target and any threat," said Marine spokesman 1st Lt. Lyle Gilbert.


In Baghdad, the car bomb blasted the offices of the Al-Arabiya television network in the upscale Mansour neighborhood, killing seven people and wounding 19, according to police and hospital officials.


Three bodies, including one of a woman, were mutilated beyond recognition, said Al-Arabiya correspondent Najwa Qassem. She said they could not tell if any of the three bodies were those of Al-Arabiya employees. However, she confirmed that one guard and one administration worker were among the dead.


The blast collapsed the first floor of the building, where staffers were holding a meeting, said Saad al-Husseini, a correspondent of MBC, a sister channel of Al-Arabiya based in the same building.


Employees "were trapped between fire and the shattering shards of glass," he said. That "led to the high number of casualties. We were all there."


A militant group calling itself the "1920 Brigades" claimed responsibility for the attack, blasting Al-Arabiya as "Americanized spies speaking in Arabic tongue" in a statement posted on the Web.


"We have threatened them to no avail that they are the mouthpiece of the American occupation in Iraq," the statement said. It warned of more attacks against this "treacherous network." It was impossible to verify the claim's authenticity.


The group said Elie Nakouzi ? the Christian Lebanese anchor who presents the TV program "From Iraq" ? is No. 1 on their hit list. Nakouzi used to present the program from the network's offices in Baghdad before he was relocated to their studios in Dubai amid fears he would be targeted.


Meanwhile, south of Baghdad, witnesses said Iraqi forces opened fire randomly and threw handgrenades, hitting three minibuses and three vans, after a U.S. convoy came under attack Saturday


Abdul Razzaq al-Janabi, director of Iskandariyah General Hospital, said 14 people were killed and 10 others injured. More wounded were taken to other hospitals.


Footage by Associated Press Television News showed bloody bodies riddled with bullet holes inside the buses and on the street near the town of Haswa, about 25 miles south of the capital. Blood and gas was trickling underneath the vehicles. Empty bullet cases were also scattered around.


An APTN cameraman saw at least 18 bodies, while witnesses said there were more than 20 people killed in the incident.


The footage also showed the morgue of the hospital in nearby Iskandariyah packed with bodies stacked on top of each other.





The shooting came after an American convoy was attacked early Saturday on the road, witnesses said. Al-Janabi said some of the victims told him three improvised explosive devices detonated near the U.S. convoy.

After the U.S. troops pulled out, Iraqi police and National Guards arrived on the scene and began firing wildly, the witnesses said. The U.S. military had no immediate comment.

The area is a major insurgent hotspot where ambushes and attacks against U.S. and Iraqi forces are common.

Witnesses said police also broke into the Osama bin Zayd mosque in the same area and detained its cleric and two guards.

In Baghdad Saturday, Mohammed Bashar al-Faydhi, a spokesman for the influential Association of Muslim Scholars, called for a government investigation into "this massacre, because it is a big disaster that the Iraqi policemen are carrying out such crimes."

Marines carried out a three-week siege of Fallujah in April that left hundreds dead ? including civilians ? angered many Iraqis and only left insurgents in tighter control of the city. The siege was launched after militants ambushed and killed four American contractors, mutilated their bodies and hung them from a bridge.

Now U.S. and Iraqi commanders are planning a new assult in a bid to tame insurgents before the elections. Up to 5,000 Islamic militants, Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) loyalists and common criminals are hunkered down in Fallujah, U.S. officers said Friday. U.S. planners believe many of the city's 300,000 residents have already fled the city.

American officials stress that the final order to launch a big operation would come from Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi. "We're gearing up to do an operation and when we're told to go, we'll go," Brig. Gen. Dennis Hejlik, deputy commander of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, said at a camp near Fallujah. "When we do go, we'll whack them."
 

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I often wonder why, if Bush is so tough, we are playing games with Fallujah. He talks tough about what those before him did or didn't do but as far as I can see he ain't doing much. Just blow the place up. He had no problem blowing up others in the Shock and Awe aspect of this disgrace. It makes we wonder what he would do if we were attacked again. He has Sadr running free. Those guys cutting heads off, he doesn't retaliate or do anything to them. I mean if it was Kerry running this war you tough guys would be calling for his head for not doing anything. God Bless them all.
 
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it wouldn't make any difference. bush is a hapless moron and kerry is just hapless. cheny runs this country and the slaughter will go on until he gets what he wants. the shameless ads they're both running the last 2 weeks makes the american electorate look stupid which is what they want
 

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True Cheney is as evil as they come but how can those on the right support Bush for being so tough when....he has them making fools out of us in Fallujah.
 

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as of yesterday it looks like they're getting ready to level it which will play right into the the hands of the terrorists(the other ones)
 

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Cheney has been a drunk for years as it is well confirmed in Washington! This guy has embezzaled more funds than the greatest white collar crook in history. Cheney better hope that Kerry doesnt win ( long shot that Kerry wins) as this probe by the FBI into Halliburton will be expanded and it will expose him.
 

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-Dubya, 2003

MORON!!!!! How many Bin Ladens could $150 billion caught?
 

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Face it we are not after Bin Laden he is part of the Saudi family and was not an easy target. It was easier to go into Iraq and remove Saddam even though no terrorist were from Iraq, but wait since there are no WMD's we went there to remove a brutal dictator. I guess we are ignoring China, North Korea and Cuba plus a vast majority of the Afrian nations that have brutal dictators.
 

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Yes, we are ignoring them. Just as we ignored Saddam....no, actually HELPED HIM while he was gassing Iranians in the 80's. Disgusting.
 

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"Cheney has been a drunk for years as it is well confirmed in Washington! This guy has embezzaled more funds than the greatest white collar crook in history. Cheney better hope that Kerry doesnt win ( long shot that Kerry wins) as this probe by the FBI into Halliburton will be expanded and it will expose him."

Yep I assume he had to embaezzal so he could give 7 million plus to charity(in one year) ;)

If anyone is going to embezzal its someone like Kerry who when on his own merits stiffs charity for 0--until he marrys some who has aquired wealth he hasn't been able to on his own merits--Do you know the last time Kerry owned a home he bought and paid for himself???---and on the invsetigation I think Kerry will be too busy covering up his own investigation on kick backs from Insurance co on The Big Dig :)

Maybe you missed print on Halibuton so will repost for your benefit

The truth about Haliburton
One of the things that I'm perpetually sick of is the whining over Halliburton that I hear from so many on the left. Of course, usually a protestor can't say "Halliburton" without "Dick Cheney". Initially, I thought that this was something that, along with the more ludicrous conspiracy theories, wouldn't get much farther than a protest sign. But increasingly, I've found that it is popping up more and more.

So when I found this post at Moxie, I was absolutely thrilled. Finally, a point by point refutation about the Halliburton/Iraq situation. Among the articles Mox links to is this one by Rich Lowry for Townhall.com, where he discusses the issue of "no-bid" contracts:

As journalist Byron York has reported, it's not really true that the company got its work without competitive bidding. In the 1990s, the military looked for ways to get outside help handling the logistics associated with foreign interventions. It came up with the U.S. Army Logistics Civil Augmentation Program, or LOGCAP. The program is a multiyear contract for a corporation to be on call to provide whatever services might be needed quickly.

Halliburton won a competitive bidding process for LOGCAP in 2001. So it was natural to turn to it (actually, to its wholly owned subsidiary Kellogg Brown & Root) for prewar planning about handling oil fires in Iraq. "To invite other contractors to compete to perform a highly classified requirement that Kellogg Brown & Root was already under a competitively awarded contract to perform would have been a wasteful duplication of effort," the Army Corps of Engineers commander has written.

Then, in February 2003, the Corps of Engineers gave Halliburton a temporary no-bid contract to implement its classified oil-fire plan. The thinking was it would be absurd to undertake the drawn-out contracting process on the verge of war. If the administration had done that and there had been catastrophic fires, it would now be considered evidence of insufficient postwar planning. And Halliburton was an obvious choice, since it put out 350 oil-well fires in Kuwait after the first Gulf War.

The Clinton administration made the same calculation in its own dealings with Halliburton. The company had won the LOGCAP in 1992, then lost it in 1997. The Clinton administration nonetheless awarded a no-bid contract to Halliburton to continue its work in the Balkans supporting the U.S. peacekeeping mission there because it made little sense to change midstream. According to Byron York, Al Gore's reinventing-government panel even singled out Halliburton for praise for its military logistics work.

So, did Clinton and Gore involve the United States in the Balkans to benefit Halliburton? That charge makes as much sense as the one that Democrats are hurling at Bush now. Would that they directed more of their outrage at the people in Iraq who want to sabotage the country's oil infrastructure, rather than at the U.S. corporation charged with helping repair it.
So we've settled the issue of the no-bid contracts. Now the question is how much Cheney is benefitting from these Iraq contracts. The answer? Nothing. Check this out:
FACT: Vice President Cheney?s Income From Halliburton Is Fixed Portion Of Money Owed From 1999, Not Based On Current Contracts Or Investments. ?Cheney and his wife had more varied sources of earnings, including the vice president?s $198,600 government salary; the $178,437 he earned in deferred compensation from Halliburton Co., the Dallas-based energy services firm he headed until Aug. 16, 2000 ? Halliburton has been awarded as much as $6 billion in contracts in postwar Iraq but has been under scrutiny for allegedly overcharging the government. Cheney elected in 1998 to recoup over five years a fixed portion of the money he made in 1999 as the company?s chief executive officer.? (?Bush, Cheney Benefit From ?03 Tax Cuts,? The Associated Press, 4/14/04)

Cheney?s Statement Of No Financial Interest Is ?Accurate.? ?Cheney?s office said that to avoid any such questions and any suggestion that Cheney would have a stake in Halliburton?s continued success, he bought an insurance policy back in 2001 ? at a cost to him of $15,000 ? to guarantee that he would receive his deferred salary regardless of whether Halliburton stayed in business. Cheney is expected to receive three more installments of his deferred salary ? in 2003, 2004 and 2005. ? The aide said the insurance policy would pay Cheney $140,000 a year for five years if Halliburton went insolvent and was unable to pay Cheney?s deferred salary. In strict accounting terms, Cheney?s claim that he has no financial interest in the company is accurate, said certified public accountant Doug Stives of the Curchin Group in Redbank, New Jersey, who has handled similar executive pay arrangements. ? ?Assuming he has divested himself of all stock holdings in the company,? Stives said, ?it is accurate for Cheney to say he has no financial interest in Halliburton.? The aide said Cheney elected in 1998 ? two years before he became the head of the Bush campaign?s vice presidential search committee -- to defer his 1999 salary. ? The Cheney aide said that on January 18, 2001 ? just before being sworn in as vice president ? Cheney assigned all of his Halliburton stock options to a charitable trust.? (John King, ?Cheney Aide Rejects Halliburton Questions,? CNN.com, 9/16/03)

The Remaining Stock Options Have Been Donated To Charity. Cheney sold most of his Halliburton stock before taking office in 2001. ?[T]he vice president arranged to donate the eventual profits from exercising the remaining $7.8 million in stock options he holds, primarily from Halliburton, in the following percentages: 40% to the University of Wyoming, his alma mater; 40% to the George Washington University Medical Faculty Associates, which benefits the cardiac unit where he has been treated; and 20% to Capital Partners for Education, a foundation that provides scholarships to low-income, high-school-aged children in the Washington.? (Craig T. Ferris, ?2000 Tax Returns: Bush Has No Tax-Exempt Holdings, But Cheney Has $2 Million,? The Bond Buyer, 4/17/01; Scott Lindlaw, ?Bush, Cheney Earnings Documented,? The Associated Press, 4/14/01)
I guess the radical left will have to go shopping for a new conspiracy theory
 

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Sounds like that article comes from a right wing enabler of the corruption of the bush administration. Halliburton is a dirty country and hopefully the general public will be privy to underhanded dealing of Cheney and Halliburton
 

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Another 3. That's what you get when you rush in some place with bad equipment and a bad plan. The hummer has no harden protection on it's underside. Our leader ship new this all along. But hell we had to rush to Iraq so they can have there dam elections.
 

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i don't know why but 130,000 troops wearing jocks traps should handle 10,000 opponents wearing sandals using no technology, no aircraft, no nothing. what' missing here?
 

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danmurphy jr said:
i don't know why but 130,000 troops wearing jocks traps should handle 10,000 opponents wearing sandals using no technology, no aircraft, no nothing. what' missing here?

Leadership?
 
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