Amazing as Bush is now +230 at WSEX

BobbyBlueChip

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GM, No one hates the Canadian people. We just don't like anyone in our business. I understand why the rest of the world wants to get involved because our actions affect everyone, but the outside critiqueing is not something that we (at least, me ) deals with very well.

I've never met a Canadian I didn't like.
 

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GM said:
While I really can't defend WR's behaviour or attitude, it really bothers me to see how many of you truly hate my country. Why you do, I don't know. I have nothing but respect for your country. And I believe many Canadians feel the same way.

Unfortunately, some idiot like WR comes on here and embarasses us with his jackass behaviour, and then the closed-minded in your bunch will decide that he represents us and that we all think like he does. We don't - believe me.

Every time one of you people bashes my country I lose a lot of respect for you. Some of you are people that I have great respect for as handicappers and really looked forward to meeting at some point. But then I see this other side of your personality. If you're lashing out at WR in particular, then go after him. I would have a VERY difficult time shaking your hand at a MJ's party, for example, knowing that you had such hatred for my nation. It makes me sick to read this shit. I have no hate for you, and I don't understand what it is that makes people like you hate so much.

As to "why do we care"...well, why wouldn't we? You SHOULD care about what happens up here too and not just be obsessed with yourselves. You'll never understand the rest of the world if you pay it no attention.

Well I guess this should piss off both sides of the thread... :rolleyes:


GM, ppl here really don't want to 'knock' your country its just hard to reply to his posts w/out bringing up differences-right or wrong. There are plenty of posters from outside the US who are welcomed & respected here. An alias, who can't even cast a vote, posting to garner inflammatory responses should expect the same in return.

Sorry if you were offended- Believe me I'm sure I speak for all.
 

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BUSH WINS

BUSH WINS

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Bush has 269, waiting for Nevada to put him over the top. Never imagined it would be so close. Given the venom voiced in this, and other forums , I hope this country can pull together. Its obvious that there are at least 2 distinctly different world views. :clap:
 

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lol...at I LOVE WR "reading the financials"...whatever the shit that means.
Last I checked the United States was the most powerful nation IN THE WORLD. Where's Canada on that list? :thinking:

the Gibber...sorry man I haven't seen you here very much, nobody told you about this I LOVE WR guy.......
This is the guy who lied about his betting record 5 times in 1 week :142smilie
.............just let it go....lol trust me on this one...he's only here to fight. He's some pussy American-hating fat homo from Canada who just lost $10,000 on the election.
 

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Only thing I can see is they sure put a lot of confidence in te early exit polls that were" leaked" out. Will be curious to see which of the pollsters were the more accurate. Sure was a wild ride on lines. Someone made a ton.If anyone see any reports on how books did overall--chime in.
 

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LOL

Look at you..

Your so involved in this.. The more you hang around in here the more you prove my point..

Do you think for one second that anyone on this site would be sitting and watching who won Canadian elections?

nope

cause nobody gives a shit...

Stop worrying yourself with our election and go shovel some snow

:142lmao: :142lmao: :142lmao: :142lmao:

Too funny, go shovel some snow! :SIB
 

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It was only a wild-ride because the media made it "appear" that way!! :clap:

Cmon you guys are so mindfawked by the liberal media that it just cracks me up!!!!!! .......WHEN WILL YOU EVER LEARN!! LOL

:chairshot

lol morons

ADIOS JOHN KERRY......HAVE FUN HUNTING IN OHIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :violin:
 

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Egg On Face of Exit Pollsters

Wednesday, November 03, 2004

By Kelley Beaucar Vlahos



WASHINGTON ? Once again, exit polls (search) received a black eye in the presidential election.

By the time most of the polls closed in precincts across the country Tuesday night, real numbers began to suggest that the early estimations that had been so upbeat for Sen. John Kerry were over-inflated ? so much so, that FOX News Channel decided to quit using the exit poll results Tuesday evening, calling them inaccurate and unreliable.

FOX News had been using exit poll numbers crunched by Edison Media Research (search) in New Jersey and Mitofsky International (search) of New York, which had been contracted by the six news organizations that had formed the National Election Pool ? besides the FOX News Channel, they were ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and the Associated Press.

The new pollsters had replaced the Voter News Service (search), a consortium of media outlets that did its own exit polling and vote counting in 2000, and was largely blamed for misjudging the 2000 election.

Long before the polls closed, Tuesday's exit polling, which included presidential preferences as well as gauges about the importance of issues to voters, had been widely circulated via the Internet along with independent voting predictions. All suggested unusually strong numbers for Kerry.

Early numbers looked so positive for Kerry that FOX News analyst Jim Pinkerton, at 3:30 p.m. EST, said, "I think it looks good for angry Democrats."

Television anchors and pundits, who are expected not to reveal trends, began reporting the "buzz" or the "mood" of the campaigns, suggesting they too had seen the numbers and were reacting accordingly.

NBC News' David Gregory said Bush "appeared subdued," while ABC News' Terry Moran noted the president had expressed a "rare sense of doubt."

The political Web logs or "blogosphere," posted the numbers throughout the day, and depending on which side of the aisle bloggers aligned themselves, either embraced or were repulsed by what they saw during the day.

"Clearly exit polls are not meaningless: I think they have something to do with the Bushies' glumness," wrote "Alexander" on the Democratic-leaning Dailykos.com.

Later on FOX News, analysts talked openly about how some actual results contradicted exit polls numbers.

"Either the exit polls are completely wrong or George Bush loses," FOX News analyst Susan Estrich said.

By midnight, Bush was declared the winner in Florida, though throughout the day the state had been predicted a winner for Kerry. Similar predictions in Ohio were also found to be wrong as the state was put in Bush's column.

"We began noticing there was some very odd things," in the polls, Bush spokeswoman Karen Hughes told FOX News. "We knew there were some problems from the get-go."

One Republican strategist told FOX News that "in the beginning of the night, we were asking how we could have been so far off.

"I bought a box of Kleenex. But I didn't open them," he said.

Exit polls did elicit some news about voters' moods, which suggested that neither candidate had a clear mandate on the issues. The close nature of the popular vote in the early morning hours Wednesday seemed to indicate that those attitudes may have been more accurately reflected in exit data than presidential preferences.

Exit polls suggested that slightly more voters trusted Bush to handle terrorism than Kerry. A majority said the country was safer from terrorism than four years ago. Those voters overwhelmingly backed Bush.

But among those who said they were very worried about a terrorist strike, Kerry held a slight lead. The majority of voters who said things were going poorly in Iraq heavily favored Kerry.

Kerry was also favored by eight of 10 voters who listed the economy as a top issue.

Half said the country was headed in the right direction, a good sign for the incumbent.

The Associated Press contributed to this report
 
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