i heard today like the range from 18-twenty something target was the same as 4 years ago. 17%??? thats unreal. was it just me, or was P Diddy's Vote or Die like a waste of time?? that guy annoys the hell out of me anyways, but its sad in a way alot more youth votes weren't cast. you guys have any info on that?
Youth Vote
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The youth vote was about as big of propaganda as Y2K.
If you think about it, it was just another desperate attempt to scrounge out pothead slackers and get them to vote democrat. Ever seen the losers on MTV? Ever been to a P-Diddy show? or Eminem?
Those are the voters the liberals were banking so much on. What an embarrasment. The Democratic party is at an all time low for sure. The entire party and it's aimless political agenda is in shambles.
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If you think about it, it was just another desperate attempt to scrounge out pothead slackers and get them to vote democrat. Ever seen the losers on MTV? Ever been to a P-Diddy show? or Eminem?
Those are the voters the liberals were banking so much on. What an embarrasment. The Democratic party is at an all time low for sure. The entire party and it's aimless political agenda is in shambles.
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I saw tonight that exit poll's indicated that either:
1) 1 in 10 voters were aged 18-23.....or;
2) 1 in 10 18-23 yo's actually voted.
(It was one of the two...I wasn't taking a whole lot of notice at the time.)
Manson, how the hell can you put that down to one party or another??
So, by your logic, 90% of 18-23 yo's are 'pothead slackers' who sleep 'til lunch time and watch M-TV??
Any 18-23's reading this??...Will be interested as to what you do with yourselves?....
...Actually...let's ask the more mature, working types here....
...What were you doing aged 18-23?...Anyone??
Doc Freeze??....Were you wasting your life on a couch watching Eminem video's, smoking pot and drinking brews?...Your buddy seems to think you were.
Come to think of it, Manson...what were (will you be
) you doing with yourself at that age?...Might explain alot.
1) 1 in 10 voters were aged 18-23.....or;
2) 1 in 10 18-23 yo's actually voted.
(It was one of the two...I wasn't taking a whole lot of notice at the time.)
Manson, how the hell can you put that down to one party or another??
So, by your logic, 90% of 18-23 yo's are 'pothead slackers' who sleep 'til lunch time and watch M-TV??
Any 18-23's reading this??...Will be interested as to what you do with yourselves?....
...Actually...let's ask the more mature, working types here....
...What were you doing aged 18-23?...Anyone??
Doc Freeze??....Were you wasting your life on a couch watching Eminem video's, smoking pot and drinking brews?...Your buddy seems to think you were.
Come to think of it, Manson...what were (will you be
) you doing with yourself at that age?...Might explain alot.It's a shame over 4 million registered age 18 to 24 did not vote is what was said. I agree with you not all were Dem's. And hey the guy in the W H right now was one of those potters.Even had a D W I. So these kids if they were all as Charlie said they are. Would have followed the leader.
i honestly think they ran that 'vote or die' program right into the ground. sad state to see that though. and its like they all say the same thing. my cousin who is 21, she didn't vote and i asked her why and she said she didn't like neither canidate and she said bush would win anyways.
Vote or Die!
Can we start the Paris Hilton deathwatch now? The amateur porn star seems to enjoy partying a lot more than voting:
So did they vote?
Or are they gonna die?
The early returns from Sean Combs' mega-hyped Citizen Change campaign suggested that reality television star Paris Hilton and rapper 50 Cent - who appeared in eye-catching posters modeling Combs' "VOTE OR DIE!" T-shirts to encourage voting - didn't make it to the polls yesterday.
Looks like "Vote or Die" was a failure. It seems like we see the same things every four years: All of a sudden there's a health care crisis, any unemployement means the economy is in the toilet and the youth vote will come out in droves and elect the Democrat candidate. This year, once again, the kids showed they don't really care:
With an all-out registration push by both parties on campuses across the country, exit polls demonstrated that fewer than one in ten voters Tuesday were 18 to 24, about the same numbers that were seen in 2000's electorate.
Can we start the Paris Hilton deathwatch now? The amateur porn star seems to enjoy partying a lot more than voting:
So did they vote?
Or are they gonna die?
The early returns from Sean Combs' mega-hyped Citizen Change campaign suggested that reality television star Paris Hilton and rapper 50 Cent - who appeared in eye-catching posters modeling Combs' "VOTE OR DIE!" T-shirts to encourage voting - didn't make it to the polls yesterday.
Looks like "Vote or Die" was a failure. It seems like we see the same things every four years: All of a sudden there's a health care crisis, any unemployement means the economy is in the toilet and the youth vote will come out in droves and elect the Democrat candidate. This year, once again, the kids showed they don't really care:
With an all-out registration push by both parties on campuses across the country, exit polls demonstrated that fewer than one in ten voters Tuesday were 18 to 24, about the same numbers that were seen in 2000's electorate.
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KDogg
The really sad thing is that many (if not most) of the youth voted because of some unsupportable fear of being drafted. Without this driving those to vote, the numbers would have been even lower.
I have always gotten some degree of satisfaction from voting. Especially when I was a teenager (2 years ago lol). i was doing something that carried as much weight as anyone in my life regardless of age or income. My girlfriend just laid into her 18 year old baby sitter because she had all kinds of things to say about the election and opinions on the candidates, but wasn't going to vote.
I do think parents need to bring more attention to this as their kids are growing up. I know mine didn't.
The really sad thing is that many (if not most) of the youth voted because of some unsupportable fear of being drafted. Without this driving those to vote, the numbers would have been even lower.
I have always gotten some degree of satisfaction from voting. Especially when I was a teenager (2 years ago lol). i was doing something that carried as much weight as anyone in my life regardless of age or income. My girlfriend just laid into her 18 year old baby sitter because she had all kinds of things to say about the election and opinions on the candidates, but wasn't going to vote.
I do think parents need to bring more attention to this as their kids are growing up. I know mine didn't.
"just another desperate attempt to scrounge out pothead slackers"
well if that were the case theyd deify the 20's Bush and all slacker votes siphoned to the jack daniels, coke head HS chearleader wannabe whose "forgotten years" and records are all in same place the pics of JFK's Bethesda autopsy went
well if that were the case theyd deify the 20's Bush and all slacker votes siphoned to the jack daniels, coke head HS chearleader wannabe whose "forgotten years" and records are all in same place the pics of JFK's Bethesda autopsy went
Just curious (on a bit of a serious note)....has there ever been any thought/push for compulsory voting in the US?
It is compulsory here in Australia...although when I say compulsory, I think the fine is something like $20 if they can be bothered catching up with you...So it's hardly a life of death thing!
I think the point is tho, that it gets ingrained, and 95% of Australians are happy to vote, and vote in the correct manner. (I think there's usually about 5% inelligable/donkey vote.)
I know there are 1000 arguments either way...not least of which is: "How is it democracy if you don't have a choice?".....
...Like I say, just wondering if it's ever been seriously discussed over there?
It is compulsory here in Australia...although when I say compulsory, I think the fine is something like $20 if they can be bothered catching up with you...So it's hardly a life of death thing!
I think the point is tho, that it gets ingrained, and 95% of Australians are happy to vote, and vote in the correct manner. (I think there's usually about 5% inelligable/donkey vote.)
I know there are 1000 arguments either way...not least of which is: "How is it democracy if you don't have a choice?".....
...Like I say, just wondering if it's ever been seriously discussed over there?
I've never heard anything about voting being compulsory. Honestly, the way it is with the electoral college - most people realize their vote essentially doesn't count anyway. First time I voted outside of California - and the nearest my vote ever came to actually counting. People who vote based on 1 simple religious issue - I'd rather they stay home anyway.
This was the election of celebrity failure. Most of America did not take kindly to being told to vote by P-Diddy or to Whoopi Goldberg bringing a coat hanger on stage for a Kerry rally. Some how, Arnold got respect, but most others fell flat. You need to sort of trick Americans into thinking if your a celebrity - most spoke to us like we were children. It wasn't a good approach to say the least.
This was the election of celebrity failure. Most of America did not take kindly to being told to vote by P-Diddy or to Whoopi Goldberg bringing a coat hanger on stage for a Kerry rally. Some how, Arnold got respect, but most others fell flat. You need to sort of trick Americans into thinking if your a celebrity - most spoke to us like we were children. It wasn't a good approach to say the least.
Actually I am somewhat of a hip-hop fan and have been to several hip=hop concerts. You would be surprised to find that much of the audience is in the 25 and up category and the socio-economic level is also pretty high. I am not talking about the big names like M, Dre, 50 cent, etc. They will always attract the younger thug crowd. But groups like OutKast, The Roots, etc. are much more mainstream. There are even some fairly popular groups like 4th Avenue Joneses that don't curse, don't glorify sex, don't put down women, etc. Like all music, hip-hop spans a big swatch of people. It isn't all bad. Hear what I'm saying? Ya feelin me?
I saw a lot of first-time 18-30 year old voters. Possibly, the vote or die campaign inspired Bush voters. Why is it automatiacally assumed that everybody in this age group, if they register, is going to vote for Kerry??
History tells us that Democratic candidates almost always receive the majority of youth vote. Kerry got the vast majority this time, but the total numbers were no different than in 2000. It would be unusual for any candidate to inspire huge numbers of this crowd, because they (youth) just don't see any connection between who the president is and what is going to happen to them next week - except in this case where the Dems tried to scare kids into voting for Kerry since Bush was going to reinstate the draft (hogwash as we know). But even so, and even with the concerts and the movie stars and Michael Moore .. the youth vote was no different.
