7 Pts By the USC #1 Supposed Rated Team against Ore St
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Here are pictures of the USC vs OSU game. I think USC showed why they are the #1 team in the country. Playing in back to back road games up north in back to back poor weather conditions, against a good/talented OSU squad, and coming back from being down 13-0 in the 1h, USC came out with a victory and was ahead by double digits late in the 4th quarter. Go ahead BBK, judge how USC played in these conditions..............
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Didnt the other team play in fog; USC was VERY VERY VERY lucky to win against a horrible horrible 5 loss team; you talk about how OU got lucky give me a freakin break; their defense basically shutout A&M in the 2nd half and the REAL HEISMAN winner threw 5 td without a pick against a real opponent. OU did get lucky with that one td at the start but they forced that fumble thats not luck when you force a fumble. Also what about Ore State just dropping the ball without being touched and USC getting the lucky int when Oreg State would have had the go ahead td. Anyone that watched that game knows how should have won that game and just like I said Oreg State would dominate the game but turnovers in the 2nd half did them in. Just be glad that USC won and move on dont downlow FOG pics to try to make up excuses. :142lmao: :142lmao:
Also they won back to back road games against Wash and Oreg State their combined record is 5-14. :142lmao: :142lmao: :142lmao:
Are you freaking kidding me?? That is a complete joke. USC has yet to impress me in one single game. You better hope they lose to ND because they will get embarrassed if they actually have to play a team that has more than 5 wins. :142lmao:
Also they won back to back road games against Wash and Oreg State their combined record is 5-14. :142lmao: :142lmao: :142lmao:
Are you freaking kidding me?? That is a complete joke. USC has yet to impress me in one single game. You better hope they lose to ND because they will get embarrassed if they actually have to play a team that has more than 5 wins. :142lmao:
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I don't get your reasonings BBK. USC also had turnovers (mostly due to the fog). USC also had dropped passed. Freshman Dwane Jarret dropped a TD pass and injured WR McFOy dropped a goal line pass as well. Then Leinart threw an INT at the end of the 1h when USC was driving to score. Then you look at OSU who got majority of the bounces that night. For example, OSU had a 40 yard pass play but USC DB knocked the ball out of his hands and there were 4 USC players there and 1 other OSU player. Guess what? The ball bounced right into the OSU players hands AND he ran for another 15-20 yards inside the 10 yard line. Plain and simple, What about the 2 missed FG's by USC vs the 2 made FG's for OSU? OSU had more breaks going for them then against them. Can't use that argument.
The FOG, weather, and fans were all benefiting OSU. USC did not play a crisp game but there was a major reason for that. Take away the fog and USC would have won by 20+ pts guaranteed. USC defense in that game was only responsible for 7-10 pts.
Then again, BBK's opinion doesn't mean much. I quote BBK saying USC is 1 dimensional.
Against OSU, running back Lendale White had
25 carries for 116 yards 4.6 ypc
Reggie Bush had.........
11 carries for 88 yards 8 ypc
Both White and Bush average over 5 yards per carry this season. But BBK says USC is one dimensional yet both Bush and White put up those numbers in the bad weather which hampered the USC passing attack. Makes those #'s even more impressive.
How can anybody say USC is 1 dimensional when they have 2 running backs that average over 5 yards per carry. Makes no sense.
The FOG, weather, and fans were all benefiting OSU. USC did not play a crisp game but there was a major reason for that. Take away the fog and USC would have won by 20+ pts guaranteed. USC defense in that game was only responsible for 7-10 pts.
Then again, BBK's opinion doesn't mean much. I quote BBK saying USC is 1 dimensional.
Against OSU, running back Lendale White had
25 carries for 116 yards 4.6 ypc
Reggie Bush had.........
11 carries for 88 yards 8 ypc
Both White and Bush average over 5 yards per carry this season. But BBK says USC is one dimensional yet both Bush and White put up those numbers in the bad weather which hampered the USC passing attack. Makes those #'s even more impressive.
How can anybody say USC is 1 dimensional when they have 2 running backs that average over 5 yards per carry. Makes no sense.
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Oreg State is horrible they have 5 losses Big deal if you ran for a bunch of yards against them; Boise State a team that was almost beat by Tulsa ran for 240 yards against Oreg State; Oreg State sucks; the Pac 10 is lucky Cal, Az State and USC didnt all lose. Just goes to show how overrated Cal is; they were one pass completion from getting beat at home. OU destroyed Oreg. Cal got luckier then USC to win. Just goes to show why the SEC, ACC, and Big XII are so much better than the cellar dwellers of the PAC 10 :142lmao:
scott:
youre very close to compromising a lot of your usc credibility and objectivity by making any mention/excuse whatsoever relating to the fog. thats such a lame friggin excuse for usc playing like shit.
youre saying usc couldnt throw because of the fog? funny derek anderson didnt have a problem throwing the ball. what would HE have passed for had the conditions been optimal?
the fog/weather should not have ANYTHING to do with usc looking like dog shit as an 18 point favorite against a team that got destroyed by cal.
youre very close to compromising a lot of your usc credibility and objectivity by making any mention/excuse whatsoever relating to the fog. thats such a lame friggin excuse for usc playing like shit.
youre saying usc couldnt throw because of the fog? funny derek anderson didnt have a problem throwing the ball. what would HE have passed for had the conditions been optimal?
the fog/weather should not have ANYTHING to do with usc looking like dog shit as an 18 point favorite against a team that got destroyed by cal.
Gman
you hit the nail on the head; when usc looks like crap against tech, cal, stanford and now oreg state that's all he has is excuses about why. USC looked like absolute dog crap if they are supposed to be the number 1 team in the country you dont play like that to a team that sucks as bad as Oreg State. Thats why I picked Oreg State on the moneyline is USC is overrated. I cant think of one game where they have looked impresssive whatssover. Their best win I believe is Vtech because Cal has shown they can be beat; almost losing as a 22 pt fav to team OU demolished. The reason he is going for Auburn is because he knows if they play OU with Perkins back; USC will get embarrassed and the people that voted USC #1 last year will be saying how USC is a fraud and should have never even got the AP vote. :142lmao:
you hit the nail on the head; when usc looks like crap against tech, cal, stanford and now oreg state that's all he has is excuses about why. USC looked like absolute dog crap if they are supposed to be the number 1 team in the country you dont play like that to a team that sucks as bad as Oreg State. Thats why I picked Oreg State on the moneyline is USC is overrated. I cant think of one game where they have looked impresssive whatssover. Their best win I believe is Vtech because Cal has shown they can be beat; almost losing as a 22 pt fav to team OU demolished. The reason he is going for Auburn is because he knows if they play OU with Perkins back; USC will get embarrassed and the people that voted USC #1 last year will be saying how USC is a fraud and should have never even got the AP vote. :142lmao:
gman2
USC did not play an A game. However, the FOG did play a major part not only on the team but coaches as well. After the game, Carroll said he could not make his usual game adjustments because he could NOT see the OSU players being substituted in. OSU wears black with orange lettering. Carroll and USC coaching staff could NOT even see across the field much less the OSU players numbers. The FOG did limit USC's passing attack, especially their long passing plays. OSU did not have to worry too much about the long pass.
A great example of the fog hurting USC. Reggie Bush fumbled a punt which ended up giving 3pts to OSU and MOMENTUM + crowd getting into it. Bush has NOT fumbled trying to catch a punt all year.
You also forget that USC is VERY BANGED UP at the WR position. When you have to rely on 1st year players catching and playing in the FOG and ROAD does spell trouble. Few key dropped passed. 1 was Jarret on the OSU 5 yard line and other was McFoy on the OSU goaline. Both dropped passed both 20yard + passes.
Both USC and OSU played sloppy during the game and I think MOST teams would play sloppy if you factor in those conditions. Playing in FOG IMO is a lot worse and hurts USC more than playing in the rain/mud. TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE PICTURES! You got be kidding me if this does not hurt USC's passing attack and rushing attack (cuz OSU does not have to play the long ball)
USC had 3 turnovers and so did OSU. ONE of USC's turnovers was due to the fog and ZERO for OSU was due to the fog. If you watched the game, OSU got more breaks than USC. For example USC stripping the ball and despite 4 USC players around him the ball hits the carpet and JUMPS right into another OSU players hands and he runs with it. That is called a BREAK! USC missed 2 FG's was a break for OSU. Gonna blame the USC "team" for one players mistake?
LASTLY, USC was up by 15pts with less than 4min. to play. OSU scored their last TD with over 2min. to play in the fourth against the USC 5th string DB. USC's 5th string DB gave up the TD pass. Point being, Carroll had a mix of backups and starters at the end of the 4th which gave up the late TD to OSU. BTW, that was the 1st TD the USC defense gave up in the 4th quarter ALL YEAR!
USC defense dominated the OSU offense all night long. Carroll does not care about stats, He cares about how many pts his defense gives up. When are you people going to realize that? Last year USC gave up $hit load of yards to OSU yet OSU still lost and was dominated. If you watched the game, you would realize that the USC starting defense basically only gave up 7pts to the OSU offense and on that TD drive was the fumble that USC stripped the player where OSU not only recovered but advanced it another 15+ yards.
OSU battled USC tough and hung with USC. However, the game is 4 quarters and you have to beat a team playing 4quarters. USC dominated the game and won soundly. If USC just made one of their 2 missed FG's , and USC did not give up the late meaningless TD to OSU against the USC 5th string DB (terrel Thomas), USC would have covered the spread. Anybody who took USC -18 in the FOG and on the ROAD with numerous injuries/missing players on the USC team would be a fool to think USC should have covered the spread. In 2 weeks USC will be a healthy and experienced team.
ALL THAT SAID, I hope people think USC played horrible and that USC is not a legitimate #1 team. I also hope people think USC does not have a great defense. I hope people doubt USC. That just means I can POUND USC in the Orange Bowl and win more money in addition to my USC futures bets on USC winning the Orange Bowl. I have been hearing these exact same things being said about USC that I have heard the last 2 years. Same exact things. Without a doubt in my mind, USC is the most tested undefeated team in the country and has past the test with flying colors this year due to the extreme circumstances Chow and Carroll were dealt with. The USC team you see playing now will be COMPLETELY different by the time the Orange Bowl will be played. The USC team you see face UCLA and ND will be similar to the team you see play in the Orange Bowl. USC should be healthy and experienced. Remember, this was a major rebuilding year for the USC offense due to extreme circumstances.
USC did not play an A game. However, the FOG did play a major part not only on the team but coaches as well. After the game, Carroll said he could not make his usual game adjustments because he could NOT see the OSU players being substituted in. OSU wears black with orange lettering. Carroll and USC coaching staff could NOT even see across the field much less the OSU players numbers. The FOG did limit USC's passing attack, especially their long passing plays. OSU did not have to worry too much about the long pass.
A great example of the fog hurting USC. Reggie Bush fumbled a punt which ended up giving 3pts to OSU and MOMENTUM + crowd getting into it. Bush has NOT fumbled trying to catch a punt all year.
You also forget that USC is VERY BANGED UP at the WR position. When you have to rely on 1st year players catching and playing in the FOG and ROAD does spell trouble. Few key dropped passed. 1 was Jarret on the OSU 5 yard line and other was McFoy on the OSU goaline. Both dropped passed both 20yard + passes.
Both USC and OSU played sloppy during the game and I think MOST teams would play sloppy if you factor in those conditions. Playing in FOG IMO is a lot worse and hurts USC more than playing in the rain/mud. TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE PICTURES! You got be kidding me if this does not hurt USC's passing attack and rushing attack (cuz OSU does not have to play the long ball)
USC had 3 turnovers and so did OSU. ONE of USC's turnovers was due to the fog and ZERO for OSU was due to the fog. If you watched the game, OSU got more breaks than USC. For example USC stripping the ball and despite 4 USC players around him the ball hits the carpet and JUMPS right into another OSU players hands and he runs with it. That is called a BREAK! USC missed 2 FG's was a break for OSU. Gonna blame the USC "team" for one players mistake?
LASTLY, USC was up by 15pts with less than 4min. to play. OSU scored their last TD with over 2min. to play in the fourth against the USC 5th string DB. USC's 5th string DB gave up the TD pass. Point being, Carroll had a mix of backups and starters at the end of the 4th which gave up the late TD to OSU. BTW, that was the 1st TD the USC defense gave up in the 4th quarter ALL YEAR!
USC defense dominated the OSU offense all night long. Carroll does not care about stats, He cares about how many pts his defense gives up. When are you people going to realize that? Last year USC gave up $hit load of yards to OSU yet OSU still lost and was dominated. If you watched the game, you would realize that the USC starting defense basically only gave up 7pts to the OSU offense and on that TD drive was the fumble that USC stripped the player where OSU not only recovered but advanced it another 15+ yards.
OSU battled USC tough and hung with USC. However, the game is 4 quarters and you have to beat a team playing 4quarters. USC dominated the game and won soundly. If USC just made one of their 2 missed FG's , and USC did not give up the late meaningless TD to OSU against the USC 5th string DB (terrel Thomas), USC would have covered the spread. Anybody who took USC -18 in the FOG and on the ROAD with numerous injuries/missing players on the USC team would be a fool to think USC should have covered the spread. In 2 weeks USC will be a healthy and experienced team.
ALL THAT SAID, I hope people think USC played horrible and that USC is not a legitimate #1 team. I also hope people think USC does not have a great defense. I hope people doubt USC. That just means I can POUND USC in the Orange Bowl and win more money in addition to my USC futures bets on USC winning the Orange Bowl. I have been hearing these exact same things being said about USC that I have heard the last 2 years. Same exact things. Without a doubt in my mind, USC is the most tested undefeated team in the country and has past the test with flying colors this year due to the extreme circumstances Chow and Carroll were dealt with. The USC team you see playing now will be COMPLETELY different by the time the Orange Bowl will be played. The USC team you see face UCLA and ND will be similar to the team you see play in the Orange Bowl. USC should be healthy and experienced. Remember, this was a major rebuilding year for the USC offense due to extreme circumstances.
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Franky Wright said:
yikes. i dont know if thats a compliment to this post or an indictment of my other threads. lol. i take it you dont care much for my other posts elsewhere on the site?
bbk- i think part of it is that he knows oklahoma would pose a far more serious threat than auburn
Why don't we just wait and see what happens...still alot of football to go here.You can make a case for all of the top teams if you wanted to. I could make a great case right here for USC and a couple of other teams, big deal, lets see what happens in the next month
RexBudler said:
I nominate this for the Post of the Month club.
Besides, I think Wisconsin could give a lot of the teams ahead of them all that they could handle.
