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SUNDAY: 11-12 -3.55***

YTD: 69-101 -309***

BUY THE HOOK INDIANAPOLIS COLTS -7 LAY 60**/50**

INDIANAPOLIS COLTS -.5 1ST QUARTER LAY 11**/10**

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I HOPE I AM NOT BREAKING ANY IN HOUSE RULES, BUT I SAW AN ARTICLE I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE.

Winning Percentages

Once And For All, - When Laying 11 To Win 10, What Percentage Of Bets Do Professional Gamblers Win?

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There's always an awkward pause when a non-gambler or a beginner asks me, "What percentage of bets do professional bettors win?"

It's a less-than-simple question to answer because it can't be answered simply. That, of course, sounds like a cop-out, but the answer to that question really does demand an explanation.

Many people believe professional-level sports bettors win at least 60% of their bets. It's understandable that people think that, but it's just not true. The fact is, the difference between the percentage of bets won by successful sports bettors and the percentage of bets won by chronic losers is relatively very small.

We'll ignore money line bets here for the sake of clarity, and address only those bets wherein the player must risk 11 to win 10; - pointspreads and over/under bets. Against this type of bet, anyone at all can expect to win 50 percent. After all, the only thing required is to flip a coin and pick a side. The bookmakers' profit comes from the difference between what a bettor must risk and what a bettor expects to win. Every time a player wins, the bookmaker withholds slightly more than 9 percent of the winnings ($1 for every $11 risked). Consequently, a bettor winning only half his bets will ultimately go broke.

Professional sports bettors, by comparison, rarely sustain a long term winning percentage higher than 57 or 58 percent, and it's often as low as 54 or 55 percent. People find that hard to believe, and they understandably get even more skeptical when told that, for a genuine professional-level sports bettor, a long term winning expectation of 60% or more is actually too high.

That last paragraph sounds crazy at first, but as crazy as it may seem there is a simple explanation: If a bettor has five bets on a given day, risking $110 to win $100 on each bet, and wins three of them, that's a great winning ratio of 60% and a net profit for the day of 80 dollars. (The bettor wins $300 and loses 220 dollars.) If another bettor has fourteen bets on that same day, risking $110 to win $100 on each one, and wins eight of them, that's a much poorer winning percentage of only 57%, - but almost twice as much profit for the day of 140 dollars. (The bettor wins $800 and loses 660 dollars.)

The second bettor was not necessarily less skilled at picking winners than the first bettor; the second bettor may simply have chosen to apply all his advantages - including those which had less than a 60% chance of winning in the first place. If the ultimate goal is to make money, it is obvious which of those two bettors was more successful. The real goal is, of course, to make money. The measure of success of a sports handicapper is not his percentage of winning bets, but the relative amount of profit he made over any given period of time.

Although there are, indeed, propositions that offer more than a 60% expectation of winning, such propositions are relatively few and far between, and are only a very small part of the overall picture. With the break-even point at about 53%, genuine professional bettors know there is no tenable excuse to pass up propositions offering expectations of higher than, say, 55 percent. A small advantage applied over and over is awesomely effective. Mathematicians will confirm that a profit is more assured from a group of 200 bets with a 55% expectation-per-bet than from a group of 50 bets with a 60% expectation-per-bet. In other words, the more bets placed, the more predictable the outcome. (See our article, Binomial Distribution.)

"The measure of success of a sports handicapper is not his percentage of winning bets, but the relative amount of profit he made over any given period of time."

That, too, is one of the facts of life of which successful bettors must be familiar. It's a basic principle of math: The more bets you are able to place, the more likely it is that your winning percentage will be close to your expectations. A pro bettor must be more concerned with profit than with establishing a great winning percentage, and those two conditions are not always compatible. A real pro applies all his advantages as often as possible, not only the best of his advantages when they occasionally arise.

To illustrate the point, consider casino craps. The house has less than a 51% winning expectation against a passline bet at craps, yet casinos advertise their craps games on signs 100 feet tall. Casino executives know that if they can get enough players to make enough bets they will end the day with approximately the percentage of profit expected. They also know that the fewer bets placed, the less predictable the percentage of winning bets. Can you imagine a casino wanting to limit the number of times you throw the dice?

The accompanying illustration (below) shows the results of different winning percentages over different numbers of bets when risking 11 to win ten. Standard vigorish charges of 4.55 percent are figured into the numbers. (The bookies' net commission is 4.55 percent of all monies risked when bettos risk 11 to win ten. See our article, A Crash Course in Vigorish.) Notice in the illustration that winning 55% of 250 bets is more profitable than winning 65% of only 50 bets, - and remember that a profit is more assured - that is, more dependable - because of the higher number of trials.

percent of winning
bets
Total number of bets

50
100
150
200
250

65.0%:
13.3
26.5
39.7
53.0
66.2

62.5%:
10.6
21.2
31.9
42.5
53.1

60.0%:
8
16
24
32
40

57.5%:
5.4
10.7
16.1
21.5
26.9

55.0%:
2.7
5.5
8.2
11
13.7

52.5%:
0.1
0.2
0.4
0.5
0.6

Net number of units profit

Graph shows effect of different win percentages over different numbers of bets. When risking 11 to win 10 it is best to use no more than 2% of your bankroll per bet - (Most pros use about 1 percent) - and 'pull the trigger' whenever you feel you have at least a 55% expectation of winning. Pro bettors tend to have a lot of bets compared to non-professionals. Note that winning 55% of 250 bets is actually more profitable than winning 65% of only 50 bets. More importantly, a bettor is more assured of achieving his expected win percentage over a larger total number of bets, and with more bets and smaller bet sizes, the 'ride' is much smoother, less risky, and more predictable. (Graph assumes all bets are same size.)


Generally speaking, non-professional gamblers go wrong by risking too much of their bankroll on individual bets. They don't spread their risk thin enough over a big enough number of bets. Professionals use smaller bet sizes in proportion to their bankroll over larger numbers of bets. As a matter of fact, one good way to spot a non-pro is that he oten has fewer than a half-dozen bets per week, and he risks more than two percent of his bankroll on each bet. (Those sports touts peddling progressive betting schemes such as the "Kelly criterion" or "one-star, two-star, three star" systems aren't professional gamblers at all; they're salesmen selling dreams over their 900-numbers. Big swings in the size of your bets will send you back to your job at the car wash quicker than bad handicapping.) If you're a part-timer with a wad of 'mad' money to risk, it may be okay to risk 4 or 5 percent of your bankroll on a single bet, but don't expect to play that way for long. Sooner or later, such poor management will annihilate you. To quote from my book, How Professional Gamblers Beat The Pro Football Pointspread, the population of bad handicappers in Tap City is dwarfed by the population of bad money managers.

Of those genuine professional-level sports bettors I've known, most would never risk more than two percent of their working bankroll on any single bet, and all of them usually risk much less than that. The general consensus seems to be about one percent. - J. R. Miller

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HARD TO BELIVE SOMEONE ELSE THINKS LIKE ME.......

INDIANAPOLIS COLTS -4.5 1ST HALF LAY 22**/20**

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By the way have you ever thought about changing your book to pinnacle they have 5cent juice all year long could save you alot of money
 

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THANKS TREYNOLDS, BUT INVESTING IN NEW BOOKS FOR ME IS EXTREMLY DIFFICULT.

DO THEY UPGRADE ON TIME? PAY OUT DAILY? USE WU? LIMITS $5,000.00 GAME OR MORE?

PARLAY ACTION!!

INDIANAPOLIS COLTS -.5 -125/OVER THE TOTAL 10.5 -120 LAY 10**/23**

INDIANAPOLIS COLTS -7.5 /UNDER THE TOTAL 58 LAY 10**/26**

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I don't want to be dick here but daily payout is least of your worries. You could have easily got 6 - with paying that extra vig.
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VINNIE, BLEEDDODGER BLUE: I HAVE A TON OF TRANSACTIONS TO MAKE, AND THOSE ARE MY PRIORITY ITEMS. NOT GETTING UPGRADES ON GAMES ON TIME HAS COST ME THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN THE PAST. WAITING ON A PAY OUT FOR MORE THAN 24 HOURS HAS DONE THE SAME....AND NOT KNOWING LIMITS BOTH GAME, DAILY, MONTHLY, YEARLY HAS ALSO BEEN FRUSTRATING. THOSE PROBLEMS HAVE COST ME A LOT MORE THAN JUICE.
THROW A COUPLE OF PROPS OUT THERE.....

WINNING MARGIN INDIANAPOLIS COLTS BY 13-18 +400 LAY 5**/20**

WINNING MARGIN INDIANAPOLIS COLTS BY 19-24 +700 LAY 5**/35**

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Ill preface by saying I'm not here to start a pissing war. Ill also say i hope you win every play you make. Maybe I shouldn't have laughed, I actually spit up my cocoa-crisps when I read your post. What each person bets is personal. Fine, but you made it your business to post what your unit size was. In terms of betting that is. For you, you post that it is ten dollars. Fine, you also play 20 or 40 unit games. Fine, thats 400 or so. Im fairly certain you've even come up with a 60 unit play. Fine, that's 600 dollars.

I for one have no idea what an upgrade on a game is??

Why in the world are you worried about having a book with limits over 5k on a game. Have more than one book, theres a thought

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BLEEDDODGERBLUE I WILL GET BACK TO U...

TODAY: 2-1 +20***

INDIANAPOLIS COLTS -3.5 +110 LAY 40**/44**

INDIANAPOLIS COLTS -3.5 +110/OVER THE TOTAL 28 -120 LAY 20**/49**

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BLEEDDODGERBLUE: MY UNIT MEASURE CHANGES ALL THE TIME, BUT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO STICK TO $10.00 PER UNIT TO KEEP ME UNDERCONTROL.

GAME UPGRADE: IS JUST TO IMMEDIATELY CREDIT MY ACCOUNT AFTER A WINNING BET. ON SATURDAYS THIS BECOMES CRUCIAL TO WHAT I WANT TO DO....I AM SITTING ON PLAYS FOR GAMES STARTING IN MINUTES BEFORE THE CURRENT GAME ENDS. SOME BOOKS HAVE TO GET SOME OFFICIAL SCORES AND CAN TAKE LONGER THAN OTHERS.
 

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i dont wanna start a pissing match either cuz master l is a funny poster who i like, however, i was laughin and thinkin the same thing when i read that. you ALWAYS post $10 per play, NOT $100 per play. so i highly doubt you need a book to take $5k per play. if you were, you would be down like a million bucks this season!!!!! good luck to ya anyway.
 

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gl keeping it under control, just a few suggestions to make your posts more sane. take with a grain of salt.

1. change your unit size to $100 since you apparently never bet less than 10 units on a game anyway. do it for posting sake so at least you might get some credibility.

2. symantics lesson. An upgrade is what a book does to its software. As for paying you money its called grading. they grade your bet, not upgrade it. they do however update your account with the funds.

3. if you are worried about getting bets in because its crucial to what you are trying to "do" as you say, then i would recommend keeping more money in your account. this is a fairly simple concept which i don't think needs explaining.

book suggestions from what you "need" to do the crucial things you need to do. Pinnacle and Oly grade as quick as any. Both have impecable payout records, and you will save juice with pinnacle because all your plays seem to be at -110

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i dont wanna start a pissing match either cuz master l is a funny poster who i like, however, i was laughin and thinkin the same thing when i read that. you ALWAYS post $10 per play, NOT $100 per play. so i highly doubt you need a book to take $5k per play. if you were, you would be down like a million bucks this season!!!!! good luck to ya anyway.

at least he posts his record daily.
 

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Last night pinnacle had the game -7 -112 juice there alone you would have saved $40. You make enough plays that you should really look into changing. Im sure some of the games you are playing at -110 at your book you could probaly be getting for even money or even +105 somtimes at pinnacle. Seriously you could probaly be saving like $700 a month with all the bets you make.

Just somthing to think about Keep up the hard work.
 
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