Bonds admits to ROID use!

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I am truly shocked :scared :moon:

The San Francisco Chronicle reported in its Friday editions that Barry Bonds admitted to using substances supplied by the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative, but he didn't think they were steroids.


Bonds told a U.S. grand jury that he used undetectable steriods known as "the cream" and "the clear," which he received from personal trainer Greg Anderson during the 2003 season. According to Bonds, the trainer told him the substances were the nutrional supplement flaxseed oil and a pain-relieving balm for the player's arthritis.


According to a transcript of Bonds' Dec. 4, 2003, testimony reviewed by the Chronicle, prosecutors confronted the slugger with documents allegedly detailing the steroids he used -- "the cream," "the clear," human growth hormone, Depo-Testosterone, insulin and a drug for female infertility that can be used to mask steroid use.


Prosecutors also questioned Bonds about "doping calendars" and other documents showing he used illegal substances that were seized from Anderson's home in a September 2003 raid. But the slugger denied knowing the drugs were steroids and said he had no knowledge of the doping calendars. He also said he had never paid Anderson for steroids; had never discussed steroids with the trainer; had never asked what the products he was given contained; and was certain Anderson wouldn't give him illegal substances without his knowledge.


"Greg and I are friends," Bonds told the grand jury, according to the Chronicle. "I never paid Greg for anything. ... You're going to bring up documents and more documents. I have never seen anything written by Greg Anderson on a piece of paper."


Bonds said that, to his knowledge, Anderson had only given him legal drugs to treat his arthritis and fatigue, which was especially bad when the Giants would play a day game after a night game. He said the trainer brought the substances to the Giants' clubhouse, where Bonds would use them.


"It was in the ballpark ... in front of everybody," Bonds testified. "I mean, all the reporters, my teammates. I mean, they all saw it. I didn't hide it."


Bonds' former teammates Armando Rios, Benito Santiago and Bobby Estalella, as well as former Oakland A's Jason and Jeremy Giambi, have admitted using performance-enhancing drugs provided by Anderson. All the players said they came to know Anderson because he was Bonds' trainer, and all five also testified because they were offered immunity as long as they told the truth to the grand jury. But prosecutors warned the players, including Bonds, that they would be charged with perjury if they were discovered lying under oath.


According to the Chronicle, Gary Sheffield also testified that in 2002 Bonds arranged for him to receive "the clear," "the cream" and "red beans," steroid pills manufactured in Mexico. Sheffield further stated he was never told he was using steroids; that Bonds was using both "the cream" and "the clear"; and that he had no dealings with Anderson directly.


"Nothing was between me and Greg. Barry pretty much controlled everything," Sheffield testified. "... It was basically Barry (saying), 'Trust me, do what I do.'


"...I know I've seen Greg give Barry the same thing I was taking," Sheffield said. "I didn't see him taking those red beans, but I seen him taking this (clear) and this cream here."


Bonds has maintained he never knowingly used performance-enhancing drugs. But the Chronicle has reported that Anderson, in a secretly recorded conversation, claimed Bonds had used a "undetectable" steroid in 2003. BALCO president Victor Conte and vice president James Valente also told investigators that Anderson gave steroids to Bonds, although both have since denied making those statements.
 

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............and in other news today, shit stinks.

How can you be surprised? The human body breaks down after 30 or so years of age, it is not possible to maintain that mass even if you lift 10 hours a day at Barry's age. Not to mention his head was the size of a watermelon. I thought it was obvious to everyone? Did you just not want to believe it or did u truly not think he was roiding??
 

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saint my friend, you didnt detect any sarcasm on my behalf :sadwave: i am as shocked as i was when i found out santa wasnt real :scared You know Barry is sweating like a whore in church or as nervous as a cat in a room full of rocking chairs
 

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Is there no end to this witch hunt? Giambi now Bonds?????Jeeze who is next Ferigno, Bosworth or Manderich?? I'm sorry but the guy did go from Pee-wee Herman to Bo Jackson in the matter of 1 year and that ain't natural. I think it should be refered to as the Brady Anderson test. if you average 20 HR's for 6 years then gain 60lbs of muscle and jack over 50, time to pee in a cup for Bud! did the movie "the program" teach us anything?

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First off no elite athlete puts anything in or on their body with out knowing what it is. and clear and cream have been around longer then these people investagating have a clue balco might of improved it but it is not like it is brand new, just another way for it to get into the body , you could get hgh that you put under tounge and rub on type of other forms of test for at least 10 years. The investigators are about as clueless as some of the testers.

I said it for over 4 years on here and have gone in to it deep at times, but you can beat a juice test depending on what you are using, and this has gone on since the mid 80's with baseball and juice. Like i said in another thread, track, swimming and baseball it is all over the place in ncaa and olympic as well as pro sports, it won't ever change if you know what your taking and how to take it and how long it stays in body some oil base can stay in body for 3-5 months some orals can be gone in a few days as with sub lingual roids.

BUT EVERYONE COLLEGE OR PRO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE PUTTING INTO BODY TRUST ME ON THAT,and in college you don't get tested unless your in a championship game they will have you drop a random test, or the college might have a player drop one but very rare and in pro you are told 24 hours in advance, you can mask it if you are doing the right things. Players don't shot oil in season it is used out of season so it has time to get out of body,in season the use oral, sublingual or cream because it is easy to mask and out of body fast, you use it to maitain what you gained in offseason. you don't see any player from any sport bulk up or get cut up or gain speed and endurance during the season, you see it happen in off season, then you just maintain with juice that can be mask or covered up fast. trust me unless they the testers are going to spend about 500 a test anything except oil base can be covered and as i said with test their is no set number of how much someone has in the body , they go by a range limit and if you are out of range then they call it dirty after a 2nd test. everyone is different in how much and what type of test you have in body, estragen female hormone type of test as well as cipanate male type is different in each person and you carry both in your body.

This is a joke everyone around sports knows it, it is not new the only thing that is new is people telling the truth to save ass but they are rats and will be blacked ballled. but juice is used in every single sport that you have a chance to make money and a living at, yes i said every sport. I know rodeo people pros who have used it.

saint said it once you get into 30's body just does not hold the same amount of horemoans as when you are in your 20's and I don't care how good you eat and how much you work out, which over work will break down body more and add injury the older you get. Also if you look at the injuries people in sports get most of the time, it is a torn ligament or tendon or ripped muscle, not a lot of broken bones wonder why? well it is because you are asking body to do more then it was made to handle with juice, you would not have all the ligament and tendon or ripped or torn bicep or pec muscles if they were not jucied up, it adds to the strain the sport already puts on body.

He knew what he was taking they all know what they are taking college or pro, have meant many dumb people but have not meant many dumb people who are using juice, they know everything about it for the most part, hell they know more then their dr does about the drugs.
 
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