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I have slept of the anger and frustration from the g tech total loss. I am ready to go at it again. My only explanation here is that Vegas is setting the line thinking these guys are going to slip up at some point. I do not see it happening. This is a very good club and superior to anyone in the conference. I think the coach they have is awesome and yes even better than Majerus. I just do not see this club slipping up. They have had chances to do it yet there margin of victory is 19pts. This tells me they are playing hard and focused with a goal in mind. UTAH-3 hugggggggggggggggggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeee :clap:
 

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fwiw.. I thought the same thing when I saw this line. However, CSU matches with UT better than anyone in the conf. The rams have a trio of 7 footers and fresh. Smith is starting to look like the player he was predicted to be. CSU is 9-0 at home and seem to be a diff. team in Moby arena. GL.
 

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winagain hit it on the head. colorado state might be one of the few teams than can match utah's size, and that alone makes em an intriguing dog. theyre also solid at home, but they have really played anyone. nonetheless, a tough game but can see csu winning it.
 

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wcguru, dont take this personally, I respect you, but trust me coach Jack is not Jackie Gleason

gl, gregg
 

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Sorry guys the 9-0 at home does not scare me. If I remember byu came away with the easy win last year at c st. Just not convinced they have the ability to substain it for a whole 40 minutes against a good ball club. Sure they may have the size to match up but utah has the better athletes and plays much better team ball. They will shut off csu fast breaks and make them earn it. I just see a 10pt win here. I am not convince c st is any good no matter where they play. Them being 9-0 at home gives us a very generous line. I could be wrong just do not see it at all right now. It will take a 60 +% field goal shooting game by csu to come away with the win. If they do that I will tip my cap to them. Gl guys in whoever you take tonight
 

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You are one of the most solidest I have seen! Thank You! Please continue to post!
 

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Thanks you win some and lose some. I have watched this UTAh team and how in the hell the are not in the top 25 is mind boggling. Bogut already has the NBA drueling. This guy is a stud and the guards they have are good. A great inside outside game. Throw in the fact they lace up the shoes and play d could be a daongerous team come tourney time. I really think this coach is great. He did a hell of a job at ew and his players seem to play balls out for him all game. They play the full 40 minutes. Have been making some nice change with these guys. When Vegas will catch up I am not sure. Their only three losses are at Washington, at Arizona, and at Utah St. That was early in the year. These guys are good and I think a lot better than anyone in the conference. Now when they play at new mexico and aif force we will see what kind of team they are.
 

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i thought west virginia's 2nd half lay down yesterday was pathetic.

wow. colorado state did them one better. up 4 and lose by 23?

great call on utah. theyre a damn good team.
 

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great call on utah, but utah didnt play at UW it was in alaska ... and as far as Coach Jacoletti, one of my players played for him and he wasnt well liked at all at EW by his players ... He's doing well with da Utes, and I even know him a lil,be interesting to see how he holds up ... Bogut is a stud for sure and congrats on cashing and following them so well

take care
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Pt who cares if your players like you as long as they play hard for 40 minutes. Shoot they do not even to that for the great ones. Now Tubby Smith comes to mind when you talk about players who play hard for 40 minutes. I am not putting him in that class just what I have seen out of his players so far. I am sure why some may not like him is he is such a strict disciplinarian. That will do it a lot. Shoot look at the players who did not like Bobby Knight. As a coach some of my players do not like me. Who cares as long as the do and play as you want. You can not find one coach that some of his players do not like him for whatever reason.
 

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actually i disagree wc guru, if your players dont like you it makes a diff, or do you truly disagree with that in long run? and obviously not every kid can like you but to me trick is to keep those members to an extreme minimum or weed them out ... to me chemistry makes up for having to be a jerk 24/7 and ruling by fear. Don't get me wrong, coaches have to be hard asses when need be, but the truly great ones integrate that with a love respect bond with their players.
 
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Actually I totally disagree with you pt. Kids nowadays do not like discipline!!! No doubt about it. However, coaches who are strict on discipline and this does not mean rule by fear or being a hard ass are disliked by there players to a certain extent. My question to any coach is who in the hell has the balls anymore to sit there top players for discipline reason in a big game. Not many have the balls. That is what is wrong with society and coaches nowadays. They have the attitude that you are punishing the team by sitting them. No the kid is punishing the team not the freakin coach. That is the problem these kids at a very young age if they are talented get away with murder. They have no consequences because they are a star. Coaches baby them and do not hold them accountable. I am telling you I know people from EW who follow this team closely and they said the first thing the coach told everybody is I WILL BRING DISCIPLINE TO THIS PROGRAM!!!!! I am sure that is why he was not so well liked by his players. The problem is coaches do not have no balls anymore. In my school out of the three main sports the other coaches have no balls. The kids are allowed to get away with murder. They can go to detention and come to practice an hour late with no consequences. This is the stud running back or quarterback etc. What kind of message does this send to the rest of your team. In our program however, the kids are held accountable in the classroom and on the field. If the have a detention and show up an hour late they do not play the next game. If they miss practice for any other reason than a family emergency or something they can not control they sit the next game. I am not talking part of a game the whole freaking game. So, I am the asshole because they do not get away with stuff. Some of them talk bad about me in the classroom. Do I care. Hell no. As long as the show up to practice everyday and work hard that is all I care about. They can say whatever they want behind my back. Kids just hate discipline and when you do it and nobody else does your the asshole coach. I know you or other may not agree but it has been successful for me. I took over a program that was 4-22 and had not won a championship in 20 years. My second year we went 19-3 and have won the championship three out of the past four years. Once we have been ranked number one and twice number two in the section. We even made it to ranked number two in the state. I have won over 75 % of my games coached and we are 30-3 at home and never lost a playoff game at home. That is the same thing I told my boss when I got the job. I told him I will bring discipline and guaranteed within four years I would win a championship or he could fire me. We did it in two. You can ask them half my players do not like me but they get the job done. They know whether they like me or not when they cross those lines they better play there ass off or I will find somebody else. You weed people out by making them work hard and be accountable. If you can find that you will find players who will improve over the long run. I am not saying I am a great coach or anything, but my kids are held accountable. I can tell you one situation that came up my first year. It is always tough that first year trying to instill discipline. Well these guys got a bright idea on the team that if about 5 or 6 of them went somewhere else instead of practice that I could not possible bench them because we only had 10 players. So, the missed and funny thing is I brought up 6 JV players and they played the next two games while those idiots sat. They hated me, but who cares. By the way we still won those two games. So that sent a quick message to not fuk with me.
 

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i see where you are coming from but sooner or later you will not succeed w/o caring about your players more than wins and losses, It sounds like you enjoy power (i.e. winning over anything else) but there are other ways to motivate with "dont F with me" ... Listen to how Wooden's players speak of him or Dean Smith... Many more ... Ive coached for 30 years now and obviously we have different philosophies in the end, which is cool, gl with your team ...

take care
gregg

ps so what HS are you at, what state? ... Im at Odea in seattle, was at Rooosevelt for years before that.
 
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