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quick ?

we all know it's hard enough making a profit by ourselves in sports betting as i believe you have to approx 52 percent to make a profit with the vig involved or juice at 10 percent

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i see all these services claim to make a clients a fortune

well what percentage does a service have to hit if a player is playing 100 dollars a game and the service
charges lets say $20 or at $30 or at $40 or at $50 a call that I've seen

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Think of it this way. If you pay a service 500.00 for a month and you are a hundred dollar player. If the guy goes 60% for you
say 24 and 16. you make a whopping 140 dollar profit
 

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I speak from experience on this subject. My buddies and I used to split the cost of a service. I know this screws the service but that is what we did. The college and pro football season we used cost like $1000 and we split it 10 ways. It was very profitable as I think he hit around 59%. I don't use the service anymore because I do not gamble much anymore but I still lurk at his site and it seems he is still doing well. I have a few buddies that are still using him and he is making them money. I could not imagine paying the $1000 myself when I bet $50, $75, $100.

CM
 

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Chickenman,

My local bookie was called chickenman. He just passed away in OCt.

He owned a poultry farm and sold rotisserrie chickens.

He was a great guy
 

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it is very unlikely that any service would give out plays that were for exactly the same unit. So if he went 24-16 you would need to know what units won or lost were to calculate. I am looking at your post where you state that you went 126-144-2, yet made a profit of $3400+. So obviously, those plays were not for the same exact amount. Percentages alone mean nothing.
 

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Very true ferdville.

I was just basing it on the player making $100 plays no matter what.

Ive seen guys by services,for 500 and have like a two dime bankroll playing $50 units. get told to play at 10x their unit 4 plays in a row first week of baseball and get knocked out of the box.
 

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Bases here is what I think your looking for--
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Services:

When looking into subscribing to a service you need to consider the cost of the service, plus the capital requirements and the winning percentage necessary for you to make a profit. The following charts should help in this regard. We in no way recommend paying a lot of money for a service and then playing a lot in order to make a profit. Everyone needs to establish a bankroll of cash that they are comfortable with potentially losing. This needs to be purely ?excess? capital.

The first chart indicates the winning percentage needed just to BREAK-EVEN for services charging various monthly amounts with varying numbers of plays for $50, $100 & $250 players. NOTE: The ?high rollers? need a much lower winning percentage because they risk more on each game. The best investment is a little of your own time, because ?FREE? requires the absolute lowest winning percentage to break-even.


$/BET
FREE
$100
$200
$300
$400
$500

6 plays/wk
$50
52.4%
56.3%
60.3%
64.3%
68.3%
72.2%

6 plays/wk
$100
52.4%
54.4%
56.3%
58.3%
60.3%
62.3%

6 plays/wk
$250
52.4%
53.2%
54.0%
54.8%
55.6%
56.3%

8 plays/wk
$50
52.4%
55.4%
58.3%
61.3%
64.3%
67.3%

8 plays/wk
$100
52.4%
53.9%
55.4%
56.8%
58.3%
59.8%

8 plays/wk
$250
52.4%
53.0%
53.4%
54.2%
54.8%
55.4%

10 plays/wk
$50
52.4%
54.8%
57.1%
59.5%
61.9%
64.3%

10 plays/wk
$100
52.4%
53.6%
54.8%
56.0%
57.1%
58.3%

10 plays/wk
$250
52.4%
52.9%
53.3%
53.8%
54.3%
54.8%

12 plays/wk
$50
52.4%
54.4%
56.3%
58.3%
60.3%
62.3%

12 plays/wk
$100
52.4%
53.4%
54.4%
55.4%
56.3%
57.3%

12 plays/wk
$250
52.4%
52.8%
53.2%
53.6%
54.0%
54.4%


If you?d like to make $100 profit per month move one column to the right to see the winning percentage required. Thus, if a service charges $400 per month and gives out 8 plays per week, in order for a $100 player to make a $100 profit the service would need to pick 59.8%. For this same service to make a $100 profit for a $50 player, the service would need to win 67.3% of their plays.

Since most legitimate services win between 55% and 60% of their games, it is almost impossible for a small player to make a profit if the cost of the service is over $200 per month.

Another way to look at this, is the amount of money one needs in his/her bankroll. Since you shouldn?t play more than 2% or 3% on any one game, only 20% to 30% of your bankroll should be wagered in any one week. This number should be slightly higher when you?re winning and slightly lower when you?re losing.

Below is a chart which shows the amount of money one must wager EACH WEEK in order to BREAK-EVEN given a services? monthly fee and overall winning percentage. This hold true regardless of how much you play on each game. Once again, if your goal is to make a profit, move over one column to the right for each $100 per month gain.


$100
$200
$300
$400
$500

54%
$735
$1470
$2205
$2941
$3676

56%
$329
$658
$987
$1316
$1645

58%
$212
$424
$636
$848
$1059

60%
$156
$312
$469
$625
$781

62%
$124
$248
$371
$495
$619

65%
$94
$189
$283
$378
$472


Thus, if a service charges $400 per month and picks an excellent 62%, you would need to wager $495 each week to break even. You would also need to have a bankroll of at least $1500. In order to make a $100 profit you would need to risk $619 each week. For a $50 player, this means wagering on 10 to 13 games each weekend. Many services with such high winning percentages lay out a small number of plays. If this is the case, a small player cannot profit.
 
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