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So little news on FOX??!!!!

My god Fox spent the whole day a couple weeks ago covering the Iraqi elections while CNN kept running a tired 15 min. taped loop of boring news ranging from a missing child in Newark to the Hollywood report to the Michael Jackson trial!!...this debate is laughable at this point Murph...no offense...but you can keep trying to dig out of your hole if you want. :)
 

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If Larry King is the most popular thing on CNN, then they definitely are in real big trouble.
 

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I guess when you look at the numbers there all bad. What do we have over 250 million folks in the U S that are old enough to watch news. And less then 4 million do. Of course the regular outlets like CBS an ABC none cable and cable combined get more then 3 million a day on evening news. But it still seems like many are bored with all of them. It's true when you look at O'Reilly and Hannity/Combs/Larry king there not news. Most are just B S shows. They keep repeating same guest.
 

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CHARLESMANSON said:
So little news on FOX??!!!!

My god Fox spent the whole day a couple weeks ago covering the Iraqi elections while CNN kept running a tired 15 taped loop of news ranging from a missing child in Newark to the Hollywood report to the Michael Jackson trial!!...this debate is laughable at this point Murph...no offense...but you can keep trying to dig out of your hole if you want. :)
And CNN will report on a bombing in Iraq, while Fox barely gives a mention.

That was one day, Manson. They treated it like a holiday. On a daily basis, Fox has mush less actual news than CNN.
 

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Why didn't you just say that in the first place instead of attacking Fox for being "biased"?....you said Fox reports biased news but the only example you gave was based on political debate forum programs.
 

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smurphy said:
And CNN will report on a bombing in Iraq, while Fox barely gives a mention.

You must not have been watching Fox this morning. I woke up, flipped on the TV and they were reporting about the bombing that just killed 125. Hell they had a reporter on the ground there!! Where are you getting this stuff?
 

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Any network can interview people with canned interviews--and if thats what one wants to here --go for it.
----but the very fact that you have the most watched network for you to get your point across and exposure and you dodge it cause they won't play soft ball--is my cup of tea.

Kerry had open invite on Oreilly preceding the elections--he dodged it--same for the Clintons--Jessie Jackson ect--all "artful dodgers".
One thing about us "narrow minded neocons' we like it out in the open and being able to make our own opinions after the debate--
The liberals evidently like the canned softball interviews and being told "what they want to here"
Think about it a minute--You have the biggest exposure on TV and your scared shitless to go on-- Says a lot about those (asking) AND (answering) the questions.
 

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Kerry had open invite on Oreilly preceding the elections--he dodged it--same for the Clintons--Jessie Jackson ect--all "artful dodgers".
I completely agree - those that turn down those interviews are blowing it. Kerry did nothing to win any support by not going on.

O'Reilly was very soft on Dubya though - much softer than he would have been on Kerry. He didn't get after him about immigration policies, or his role in being responsible for Iraq intelligence - or much of anything really. But Kerry absolutely should have judged the large audience of O'Reilly and been a man and stepped up to the challenge.
 

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in all fairness Smurph I think he had some pretty yough questions--"including immigration

Examples of questions
He asked him about divided nation--wmds-mission accomplished statement--the sames things the dems would pound him with


and his question on illegals---

O'REILLY: Every year, 3.5 million illegals come over. Why can't the federal government control that?

BUSH: Well, as you know, as the governor of Texas, I was very aware of this issue. There is a long border, that makes it hard to control. We have beefed up places along the border to try to stop the process of...

O'REILLY: With all due respect, though, it's not working, with 3 million...

BUSH: It's working a little better. They're doing a pretty good job down in Arizona, which is the main border crossing. But I was trying to get my words here for a minute. I was trying to give you some facts. I think there's a thousand more border patrol agents along the border, we're modernizing border techniques, we're using better surveillance methods to stop crossing at the border. Now, look, people are coming up because they want to work. You know, family values don't stop at the border.

O'REILLY: Absolutely,

BUSH: If you can make 50 cents in the interior of Mexico, and five bucks in the interior of the United States, you're coming for the five bucks, and they're poor.

O'REILLY: Ninety percent of them are, but 10 percent are bad guys.

BUSH: Well, look...

O'REILLY: A lot of bad guys coming here.

BUSH: I don't know how you got the 10 percent number, maybe...

O'REILLY: The border patrol you know, incarceration, violent crime, that...

BUSH: No question about it. It is a serious issue. I happen to believe the best way to enhance the border is to have temporary worker cards available for people. And I think it's best for the employers who are employing these people. I think it's best for the employees that are trying to find work. I think the long-term solution for this issue on our border is for Mexico to grow a middle class. That's why I believe in NAFTA (search)...

O'REILLY: We'll be in the grave.

BUSH: I don't think so. It's happening. Look, I wish I could have taken you down there and shown you the northern tier of states in Mexico ten years ago compared to today. I mean, it's happening.

Free trade helps lift lives, free trade develops commerce, free trade gives people a chance to realize their dreams. And so long as the wage differential is as big as it is, and so long as moms and dads feel the necessity to feed their children, they're going to come and try to make a living.

O'REILLY: So you're not going to militarize the border to stop...

BUSH: No, we're going to use the border patrol, beef it up, give it better technologies and better equipment to do its job.

O'REILLY: OK. You know a lot of people are not going to like that answer, you know that.

BUSH: Well it's a truthful answer.

O'REILLY: OK.
 

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DOGS THAT BARK said:
BUSH: No, we're going to use the border patrol, beef it up, give it better technologies and better equipment to do its job.
Did Bush lie with this statement? Should O'Reilly be re-playing this line from the interview?

Your right - O'Reilly did get after him a little bit. I was talking more specifically abpout Bush's immigrant worker program and the direct costs of supporting low wage immigrant jobs in this country by the middle class. O'Reilly did touch the general broad topic though - I'll give you that.
 

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I personally am glad that Bush is spending the opening days of his new term focusing on international nuclear missle threats instead of mexicans picking strawberries. Maybe that's just me though. :shrug:
 

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I don't like Bushes stance on immigration Smurph--classic case of vote solicitation--however as U.S. population changes it would be impossible to win election with Dems getting 90 % of black and hispanic vote.--Its a sad situation--

on another tangent--while I was whining about hating to watch Micheal Jackson trial BS on tv I was chipping golf balls in doors away from remote and Fox had this guy on that made me think about issue.
While I dislike MJ in general I am not sure I could convict him if in jury without some powerful explainations.

1st child testimony can and often is coached.
The mother is without question a gold digger
--but the big point he made was this child and the other child from another family that Jackson paid of previously BOTH had same attorney and physciatrist--Quite coincidental????
 
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